SBW out? Rieko to 12!

TSF version of Godwin’s law:

“As a thread grows longer, the probability of discussing the RWC failure or Akira Ioane approaches 1”

There's been some comments in the media that the current situation is similar to all the other Blues coaches. I thought I would check out the win percentages vs other NZ sides

Yes, the form of the NZ teams has ebbed and flowed but they are generally strong. Also, they are the one constant across the various number of teams, competition structure etc

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Umaga 6.7%

15 games 1 win

The one win was the first game vs the Highlanders (33-31)

If his team the next 5 NZ games (2 vs Crusaders, 2 vs Hurricanes, 1 vs Highlanders) he can just edge in front of Kirwan

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Kirwan 29%

24 games 7 wins
(3 Hurricanes, 2 Highlanders, 2 Crusaders)

Crap

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Lam 37.5%

24 games 9 wins
(4 Highlanders, 2 Chiefs, 2 Hurricanes, 1 Crusaders)

I think there has to be a note about the injury crisis in Lams fourth season. Crazy number of injuries, players with no NPC experience starting... locks in particular, we were starting our 7th choice lock with a loosie next to him etc

First three seasons prior to that injury crisis:
9/16 56.3%

This included the best streak since Henry: 6 in a row versus NZ teams. The streak Included all other NZ sides. That season was the last time the Blues made the playoffs

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Nucifora 50%

6/12
(2 Chiefs, 2 Highlanders, 1 Hurricanes, 1 Crusaders)

A bad first season cemented reputation then his team went ok (0-4 in that first year)

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Sloane 52.9%

9/17
(3 Crusaders, 2 Chiefs, 2 Hurricanes, 2 Highlanders)

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Various 1 season coaches all got 50%

Yes, even Jed Rowlands

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Henry 92.9%

13/14

13 in a row before losing the final in 98

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Clearly Henry belongs in his own category.

From 1999-2011 all of these coaches had a minimum of 50% success rate against NZ teams:
Rowlands 50%
Hunter 50%
Oliver 50%
Sloane 52.9%
Nucifora 50%
Lam 56.3%

Sure, thats not good enough, but they were competitive. They all got a lot of criticism in the press compared to the current coach.

Then came the injury crisis in Lam’s fourth season. I have never been convinced the right action was to sack Lam after that amount of injuries. He had very little support in the media and from the board so he had no chance.

The new normal of shittness has settled in under Kirwan/Umaga

@stargazer

I'm going. I will give comprehensive updates on everyone that doesn't play for Hawkes Bay

@Tim said in Crusaders v Chiefs:

@Hooroo Punch a teammate, punch the opposition, punch the missus?

This seems like a good time to bump these posts:

@chchfanatic said in NRL 2019:

kick the useless prick out and never let him put a jersey on again. Wife beaters are up there with paedophiles in my book. What a waste of talent. Fucking loser

@chchfanatic said in NRL 2019:

would you want him playing for your club. Imagine what message that sends to the female members of the club. I say go and get a real job mate.

@Stargazer said in All Blacks starting 10: Beauden Barrett or Richie Mo'unga:

No, he had low scores in the first 3 rounds. Currently, he's kicking better than BB, but obviously, if you average it, BB is still higher.

But if you ignore some of BB misses his %age is even higher

I wonder if Hillary told Jacinda about her links with Sir Edmund?

As told by Mark Steyn:

...in the mid-Nineties when she visited New Zealand and met Sir Edmund Hillary, the conqueror of Everest, and for some reason decided to tell him he was the guy her parents had named her after.

Hmm. Edmund Hillary reached the top of Everest in 1953. Hillary Rodham was born in 1947, when Sir Edmund was an obscure New Zealand beekeeper and a somewhat unlikely inspiration for two young parents in the Chicago suburbs.

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Eventually, when it was noticed that Hillary was born six years before the ascent of Everest, Clinton aides tried assuring skeptics that her parents had seen a press interview with Sir Edmund in his beekeeping days, Mr. and Mrs. Rodham apparently being the only Illinois subscribers to The New Zealand Apiarist. 

@Will_G said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

Itoje

Oh, hi

What brings you back here?

@paekakboyz said in Is Umaga doing a good job?:

Wish there was a 50/50 choice

It’s not tiddlywinks

@SammyC said in Censorship and the Mosque Shooting:

I tried to read the book, it’s fucking boring.

I haven't read it. Not interested in it. The quality isn't the reason it was removed

@SammyC said in Censorship and the Mosque Shooting:

Surely whitcoulls as a private enterprise have the right to sell (or not sell) whatever stock they please?

Of course. Do you think people are saying they don't have the right?

People have the right to ridicule that decision

@SammyC said in Censorship and the Mosque Shooting:

It’s still easy to get in NZ for anyone with internet and a credit card so I don’t see why it’s such a big issue? If you want the book go and buy it somewhere else.

What is being discussed is the direction the culture is moving. We're moving to a culture where a growing number of people are intolerant of hearing other ideas.

Corporate culture generally plays it as safe as possible. This company has made the calculation that the culture is on the side of the censors. They are happy to take the backlash from people who think a variety of ideas should be heard, to appease the people that only want their ideas heard.

I hope other companies come to a different conclusion. So yes, complaining loudly about this is important.

Those that want something as benign as this censored are using the emotion of a tragedy to censor things they don't like. It's worth repeating that Peterson is despised by people like the shooter.
Those pushing for the censorship would've banned his before the shooting if they could have. They have manipulated a tragedy to get their political goal. It's gross opportunism.

People across the political spectrum should be pushing back. Regardless of if they like JP or think he's boring. This is not the way a mature and confident culture should act.

@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

Urban Sydney has a popuation density of 1,237 persons per square kilometre. Same as AKLD

Yes people in Auckland and Sydney live close to each other. Of course there's a lot more people in Sydney though

@mariner4life

Sure, I lived in Sydney for years. More than the population of NZ is in that relatively small space

@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

your point still doesn't really stand.

My point was that most Aussies live relatively close to each other. Yes, not NYC close (that was a straw man) but the population mostly lives in greater urban areas.

@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

@Duluth said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

@canefan

Think of it as half a dozen islands. Those islands are relatively dense.

Australia is one of the most urbanised nations, with 90 per cent of the population living in just 0.22 per cent of the country’s land area

that's a misleading stat, the population isn't massive, and the country is fucking enormous. The cities, while populated, are spread out.

Almost like islands...

@canefan

Think of it as half a dozen islands. Those islands are relatively dense.

Australia is one of the most urbanised nations, with 90 per cent of the population living in just 0.22 per cent of the country’s land area

@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

And low population density too. I think this is helping Australia too

Nah, Aus is one of the most urbanised countries. The vast majority of people live in a city

@Crucial said in Lockdown Check In:

Can we take the 'how well the govt is doing' stuff to NZ thread and away from here?

I moved some of the posts to the NZ thread

Some more info on how the ufc is planning on having events every week for a couple of months.

Two venues will be used. One somewhere in USA and an island in an undisclosed location for the non-American events

Yay! Some live sport I give a shit about

Shame about the Khabib v Ferguson fight getting cancelled yet again. Ferguson v Gaethje should be a fun fight though. Winner gets Khabib, loser gets Conor?

Location still not announced. Strongest rumours are still for an Indian reservation on the west coast

@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

Hate it when I miss deleted posts!

Nothing exciting, a user deleted their own post.