Baron your response to any proven lie by Trump is just to say that Obama has said something which is a lie or is made up in the past. This is just silliness. You seem to be saying that as soon as someone lies once, they are automatically as bad as someone who lies many more times. There is a very good reason why inventing an attack which is used to bar a group of people from entering a country is treated very differently to whether or not cars have become twice as efficient.

In this thread, several users routinely like to trash the "mainstream media". I also think the mainstream media in regards to CNN did a poor job in their election coverage. However, many of the users who have spent their time trashing the mainstream media have also made several obviously false claims (like about how few counties Clinton won or that Trump's immigration executive order was exactly the same as one passed by Obama). Furthermore, a quick google of these claims makes it clear that they originated on Breitbart. Criticising the MSM for being biased and then posting obviously false and misleading facts from Breitbart makes no sense to me. You are simply holding media organisations you don't use to higher standards than the organisations that you do use. If you want to criticise the standards in media then you should probably subscribe to the Economist, or the Atlantic, or even National Review.

The thing that is most striking about reading pro-Trump websites is the incredibly small world these people live in. If you read Breitbart there is nothing there about any important issues. Foreign issues are rarely touched upon unless it is to score political points or directly related to Trump. There is almost never an article about reforming the economy, or reducing corruption or overhauling the health system. Needless to say, dissenting opinions are never published on Breitbart (as they are in the Atlantic or New Yorker). If Breitbart is a look in to the world of a Trump supporter, then it is a scary place. It's scary because these are people who believe that the greatest threat to western civilisation comes from the left and that the primary motive of government should be to defeat those people. It's an exercise in futility because any attack on the left will just embolden them.

The mainstream media is not perfect and they should be doing a lot more to focus on the real issues that matter. I just can't take any criticism of the mainstream media seriously if it is coming from someone who believes that Breitbart is the solution.

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