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@Stargazer said in Bledisloe #1:

Ah, another TSF meltdown. Everyone completely overreacting as usual.

If you don’t meltdown after nearly conceding 50 in a Bledisloe game something is wrong with you

@crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

This thread is starting to resemble the good old days around AB selection time ,

All we need is Toeava to make himself available .

DMac is the new Toeava

Toeava could play ten.

Helps with disappointment that a quality bloke is lifting the trophy

Nah, you lose the ability for a Japan vs SA or Ireland upset if you do that.

I like the alternative of the plate competition I saw mentioned the other day, so there is more to play for after the top two pool spots.

@sapetyvi said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:

@jegga said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:

@mariner4life said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:

@snowy said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:

@jegga said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:

Cn one of you clear the air by posting some photos of her? I don't know how to get them from instagram to the fern.

No. She's my first officer and you reprobates can't have her.

do you get her to hold your cock and then aim for turbulence?

Fuck your drinks passengers, I'm getting a jerky handjob

What the fuck did I just watch? Can someone ban jegga? Or me?

Considering it for not having seen Airplane.

@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Highlanders:

Im not gonna rip into Tana too hard cos it's a long season but cripes you have to question some things. Blues need SBW at 12 as soon as they can - Moala is a beast but his distribution aint much chop - Rieko barely sees the ball at all - let alone in space.

The game plan seems to be not to use our backs until we have won a bomb. We had the same issues last week with Francis at 12.

Collins has given us nothing on attack, Duffy only seems to be good at catching bombs and we leave a player like Nanai on the bench!

With so many players having poor games, it's hard to tell if it's a good game plan or not I suppose. But I don't think it suits the players we have.

So two strikes against Tana here, selection and game plan and what the hell is Jackson doing with the set piece? Two hookers that can't hit their target and the scrum is inconsistent as all hell.

Highlanders shouldn't get away without any criticism as well, they were equally as poor as the Blues and only scored a try because Ranger is a shadow of his former self.

I took my son to this game and he spent a good portion of the second half making a blindfold out of his flag. The guy behind me (in full Blues gear) commented that he wished he had one too.

@Stargazer top post. But that is a warning for bringing facts to a discussion.

@Canerbry said in Blues v Hurricanes:

@Kirwan

I read this thread going "fuckin stop moaning Kirwan", then read your self-righteous defenses, so this is the tally this thread:

Kirwan's Posts criticising the Ref: 17
Kirwan's Posts pro the Blues: 15
Kirwan's Posts criticising the Blues: 12
Kirwan's Posts criticising the Canes: 1
Kirwan's Neutral posts (no apparent bias): 11
Kirwan's Posts complaining about being called biased: 2

Bah, who am I kidding, time to fact check!

More accurate totals;

Constructive feedback for the officials: 11
False dawn praise for the Blues: 13
What the actual frak Blues? 13
Stupid Ardie Savea is too good: 1
Neutral: 12
Tiresome posts explaining what a discussion forum is for: 6

57 posts from kick off to the final whistle
1 traditional post hating on TJ
109 max heart rate sitting on the couch

Typical shit French ref performance

@canefan yep. My wife’s work has bought them all that gear for that reason.

I guess there is a difference though to a hospital that has to plan for thousands of potential cases.

@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

@No-Quarter said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

@canefan Then masks are effective in prevention, right? So why say they are not?

Once they are damp most standard masks cease to be an effective barrier to tiny particles. But they will catch droplets. If you have the virus then it prevents transmission because it catches your droplets when you cough or sneeze. If you don't they will catch droplets if someone happened to sneeze at you. I read an article where in China and Taiwan, for example, they recommend masks because it seemed to seemed to reduce panic in their people. Here they recommend against widespread use unless you are sick. So the reasoning behind wearing them are varied. If you live in a densely populated country, if for example you rode the underground train daily to work, I could fully understand you wearing one. But walking down the street in Auckland? Probably unneccessary

Yeah I don't think you need a mask when going for a walk outside. My understanding is the virus is far far more likely to spread indoors, for obvious reasons I'd say. That's why I wear a mask to the supermarket - put it on when I go in and bin it when I leave. If everyone did that then the virus would struggle to spread very far.

Used the supplied sanitizer and washed their hands when they got home before anything else

Absolutely, but none of that will help if you've been in close contact with someone that has the virus, which is hard to avoid in supermarkets.

And that's what annoys me - we've shut down our entire economy for this, so by that measure its extremely serious. But when it comes to masks, which are proven to stop the spread from infectious people, we're actively going the other way and telling people not to bother. So is it serious or not? If it is then we wear masks, if it's not then we don't bother.

There are a lot of people with Covid-19 that don't know they have it. Symptoms vary from asymptomatic, to very mild, to moderate right through to severe, so this is the perfect virus to encourage the use of masks when indoors.

I went to the supermarket today. Everyone was observing distance. By close contact, you can't get it unless they transfer fluids or touch you and you lick the surface. I always go home and have a shower after

They have said the virus can live on hard surfaces for a few hours, especially metal or plastic. So you could get it from a surface contact if you touch your face.

And Baron, you can tone down the combativeness, it’s just not necessary

@booboo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

Is it possible that both

1. DHBs are getting plenty of supplies
2. Frontline staff are not
   Can both be true?

asked a friend at a hospital, and it seems they have supply but it is being rationed for the worst cases. So it may be a case of someone thinking they need it but they don’t.

Considering we only have two or three in ICU that might be fair enough.

@Machpants said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

Possibly, but when you look at Italy etc, the long term damage there is going to be greater. Their lockdown, now, is even harder than ours because they started late. I'm hoping that at the end of this 4 weeks, NZ will be internally open, even if not to overseas, and we can get on with stuff.

If you are going to use the Italy extreme on one side , you have consider the German one on the other side.

It appears that we aren’t on the same path as Italy, and perhaps never were.

We certainly didn’t act early Crucial. We took too long to close the border or to start wider testing.

It was clear there was a huge problem in other countries and we let in travellers from those very countries.

Logic/maths question.

If the average daily testing has increased, and average new Daily cases is staying roughly the same for the past five days, that’s a decrease in the positive results right?

Rolling average is what 1800 tests per day, but the new cases are staying around 80.

@Crucial said in Coronavirus - China:

@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus - China:

@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - China:

@Baron-Silas-Greenback US didn't listen - for weeks and weeks. Too invested in their own political and trade war with China. Who I agree are not blameless - just saying.

Rubbish, the US was listening, unfortunately they were listening to the WHO who in turn was listening to the lies coming from China.

The US govt knew much more than what WHO was telling them, as did many countries. This is what intelligence networks and analysts do. The problem is when those they report to choose to downplay or ignore the threat assessments.
I believe there was a briefing in January raising high risk. A clear indication to start checking that crisis plans are in place.

We didn't act early either, only a small handful did - mostly in Asia.

@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

BTW for what it's worth - The Wu Flu / Chinese Flu bullshit is unnecessary IMO - just another tedious attempt to politicise almost everything

Me too. Might as well call it the Yellow Peril thread or something and say what you really feel. I always thought we were better than that

I don't think it's that political. We still refer to Spanish Flu for example (also not a hugely fair name). It started in China, or Wuhan, so calling it the WuFu makes perfect sense in the way that language strives to give context and shorter versions of things.

@Wairau said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:

@dogmeat Cheers, I am going for food so won't check this for a while, however, most of your points I must note that I disagree with. It's not anecdotal. There are clear short informal trials and the drug process is logical. The prescription amount is safe, and the main side effect given 5 day treatment is low probability compared to the usefulness of the combo for the wider pop., and given those same people with weak heart would die from ARDS anyway, that's relatively pointless.
Again, I note that you've got likes but the things you stated are generalizations that are untrue, but sound nice and reassuring.
Guys, guys. Look deeper.

Conspiracy theories are not helpful for anyone, so shelve that look deeper stuff. That's how we end up anti-vaxxers doing their research on Facebook.

Treatments will come in when they are scientifically tested, and proven safe.