I know the football has to start early to fit in the whole comp with enough gaps between games. But is the Sevens starting early just because of other events coming up in the stadium?
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@barbarian said in The Open:
My guess is 04? Todd Hamilton, Micheel, Woods at Augusta, but maybe that was a year Retief won the US? Long time ago though.
I'll post the answer as this thread will go quiet soon. 1982 amazingly enough. And in 1994, no American won a major (Price x 2, Els & Olazabal)
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Quite enjoyed watching Lawrence play. -7 after 9 holes but couldn't find a birdie coming home. Still kept going for it - at the 18th, he drives into a steep fairway bunker, he stupidly still tries to reach the green, hits the bank and the ball pops behind him onto the fairway. But he then hits a great shot and makes his par.
Anyway quiz question, no cheating. When was the last year that all 4 majors were won by Americans?
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Schauffele really showed his class on that back 9 where most of the week players were trying to hang to the score they made on the front 9. Nobody really threw it away, they just couldn't go as low as he did
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Spare a thought for Aguri Iwasaki. Hovering around the cut line with 7 holes to play - goes double bogey, quintuple bogey, sextuple bogey (13 shots gone in 3 holes) and finishes with a triple bogey to shoot 91 and be officially last.
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Hendry +4 after 5 and Hillier even after 4
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On Southgate and the luck he has had with the draw in major tournaments - these are the pre tournament odds of the teams he has faced in all of the knockout rounds from 2018. (P) = match went to penalties, (L) = match was lost. Not posting this to diminish his achievement, just to point out that whoever gets the job will be expected to win the whole thing based on reaching 2 finals in the past but it doesn't really reflect how good England have been,
Colombia (P) 31
Sweden 81
Croatia (L) 31Germany 8
Ukraine 76
Denmark 23
Italy (L)(P) 9Senegal 126
France (L) 8Slovakia 251
Switzerland (P) 67
Netherlands 17
Spain (L) 8 -
@dogmeat I can still sing that anthem and I'm sure I still have some of the coins you could get from Esso petrol stations at the time.
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Not as much as the 'Golden Generation' teams but I've followed England in tournaments since 1980 and this one was definitely favoured by most. Not just the tabloids but almost every media outlet / blog/ pod whatever in England and elsewhere had them one of the top two favourites. Certainly much more so than Spain.
My first England tournament was Mexico 1970 as the World Cup holders. I reckon that puts me right in the sweet spot for the maximum years of hurt possible (54) given that losing that quarter-final to West Germany 3-2 after being 2-0 up was when the hurt started. That 1970 team was probably the best England have had relative to the rest of the world.
These were the NZ TAB odds for the Euros just before it started
England 4.33
France 4.50
Germany 5.50
Portugal 8.00
Spain 8.00
Italy 16.00
Belgium 17.00
Netherlands 17.00
Croatia 34.00
Denmark 41.00
Austria 51.00
Serbia 67.00
Switzerland 67.00
Turkey 67.00
Ukraine 67.00
Hungary 81.00
Czech Republic 101
Scotland 101
Poland 151
Romania 151
Slovenia 201
Albania 251
Slovakia 251
Georgia 501 -
I can't see Klopp or Guardiola doing it - Klopp might do Germany but even then not sure he can imbue the Klopp approach with so little time. Pep wouldn't be able to cope without having full control over his players imho.
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@mariner4life said in Euro 2024:
The came a headed clearance from taking this supposedly great Spanish team to extra time. I am sure it's frustrating that they keep going deep in tournaments but failing. But as someone who watched way more hyped English teams do much much worse for a couple of decades, they are doing alright.
I think this team actually peaked at the 2022 World Cup, that team looked much better structurally than now, Foden was playing wide left with Shaw supporting and the balance was much better. It was Southgate's worst finish to a major championship because he ran into France in the quarters. In his other quarter-finals it was Sweden, Ukraine, Switzerland.
Not to mention he managed to get England relegated from the Nations League Group A which means they will be playing in Group B outside of the top 16 in Europe.
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An interesting stat is that Croatia had a higher tournament xG (expected goals) than England having played 3 games against England's 7. For the whole tournament, England went long stretches without doing anything at all and their goals largely came out of the blue. They should have gone home losing to Slovakia in the last 16, they were awful in that game and rescued by a freakish piece of brilliance. I imagine if Bellingham's overhead kick had ended up in row Z, Southgate would have already resigned.
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England eventually getting found out - players are good enough but they didn't really have a method of creating chances. In the end, the most successful tactic was pumping it upfield and hoping it fell for them. Good that Southgate made the changes but I think he should have thrown on someone like Gordon on the left as Carvajal strolled through game without a threat. Anyway, the best team in the tournament and on the night won and that doesn't happen often
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It was an interesting game - great first half but mainly because the Dutch got their formation wrong and England always had a man over at the edge of the box. Bellingham, Foden, Saka were pulling the strings and it looked like England had to get a 2nd. Then Koeman took off Malen and put on an extra midfielder and suddenly the space wasn't there. Second half became more cagey and without looking particularly dangerous, the Dutch were in the ascendancy and creating set pieces. Thought Southgate left it too late with his subs but as against Slovakia, he has the midas touch.
England have a chance in the final, Spain can be put under pressure in the same way as any other team. The issue will be getting hold of the ball though and England might need to set up more defensively to avoid being sliced up by Spain. So Spain slight favourites but hopefully it is a good final.
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Just with that move for the goal, Watkins showed what England have been missing. Someone who runs, who shows for the ball and is a threat - a real striker's goal when England spent most of the second half not looking like they wanted to score.
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Spain really know how to up the tempo when they need a goal and slow it down and keep the ball when they're ahead. France had a few chances but never really opened them up. That Lamine Yamal looks useful, last game as a 16 year old. Apparently he is youngest player to play a major tournament semi-final (taking Pele's record) and Jesus Navas is the oldest.
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@Dodge said in Other Cricket:
James Anderson’s last test starts tomorrow (in spite of the fact he took 7-40odd last week for Lancs), feels like it’s too soon but it had to happen sometime. Some lovely tributes pouring out of the woodwork, but jeez I’ll miss that grumpy bastard running in for England.
Hard to believe he was at the 2003 World Cup with the likes of Alec Stewart and Wasim Akram.
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@mariner4life I reckon what it gives them is the insurance to grind it on the lower tours which must get really expensive without the backing. Can take most players a long time for their ranking to get high enough to get into the big tournaments.
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@Billy-Tell said in Wimbledon 2024:
Despite her being kiwi Swiss I have never heard of lulu sun before. Sounds like an exotic bar dancer rather than a tennis player. But fair play to her.
Born in NZ, Croatian father and Chinese mother. Switzerland from age 5 for school then USA for college.
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