@frank said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

@pakman said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

Couple of things I’ve not seen mentioned.

1. Highlander runners seemed for at least first 60 to back off/slow a tad/change line at last moment going into contact. Result was a bit like when a scrum fakes at hit. Oppo overbalanced and contact ineffective. Whatever it was it really threw Saders momentum at breakdown.

2. Clan seemed to target running one out and then angling back in behind ruck. Seemed that analysis may have identified space there, and good yards made.

Seemed also to result in Saders not getting the rub of the red and black, as per usual.

If I were Super coaches I’d be pouring over tape!

A bit of actual rugby analysis rather than endless moaning about the refereeing. Awesome stuff!!

Apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Pakman was at Dublin 1991, Ellis Park 1995, Twickenham 1999, Sydney 2003 and Cardiff 2007. He's watching on Sky.

Irish have no chance.

@Jaguares4real said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

@Yeetyaah

You misinterpreted my post

Simply put Cane is more versatile as a player than Cane

ala Hooper is with Pocock

You've got me with that one.

One very marked difference between the breakdown work of the teams.

Boks always have a player beside or directly behind carrier in close stuff. As soon as Bok is tackled, ‘shadow’ shoots in over him and crouches down over him supporting weight with hands. Tackler then places ball back between shadow’s legs. AG seemed to be comfortable so long as shadow didn’t put knee on ground. Very effective method of sealing off.

We seem to follow more traditional cleaning strategy. But a couple of times Bok tackler managed to roll out our side of ruck leaving nowhere for cleaners to put feet. Noticed Irish also did that. AG also didn’t seem bothered.

I’m not clear off top of my head if the legalities!?

@MiketheSnow said in British Politics:

Some buffer claimed the other day in the House of Lords, that the top four were Iran, Iraq, Syria and somewhere similar?!

@canefan said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

Doesn't change the fact that we suck balls right now. This must be the worst AB team in memory in my lifetime

There seems to be no sense of calm belief. But I've got to feel sorry for Fozzie, oddly enough.

At 55 we're getting on top, Havilli kicks us 5m out. Cue Frizell inability to understand English, albeit Strine, and then Rieko unforced Hail Mary which Pollard smartly converts to another 3.

Hard to come back after that!

EDIT: Then Coles drops 5m out, then crooked throw.

@SidBarret said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

@pakman and if we are going relitigate the entire game, kickable penalty against Barret for the intercept and no kickable penalty against De Allende as Smith was offside first.

Gardner wasnt perfect, but hebis not reason the game wasnt even close

I disagree on first, but De Allende did seem harsh.

But the first Marx jackal ought to have been a nailed on 3 for ABs. At 7-3 after 20 it's a different ball game.

@stodders said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

@Tim But then after that, he came right and put the SA prop under pressure. Is it a concentration thing?

First scrum with this AB pack, and that Bok pack with Angus’s calling, is always likely to cause initial scrum instability. Many good refs make allowances.

Just rewatching. I'd be interested in @NTA view, but it looked to me as though Kitshoff pulled that down.

In which case, file with kickable penalty against PSDT for non-release on first Marx jackal, and non-penalty for Cane jackal which AG missed and penalised him for fishing on deck.

Kitschoff was a sub in minute 39.

Nyakane was up against Ta'avao. I thought Nyakane was clever...he pulled back ever so slightly because Ta'avao had overstretched on the engage. Only one way Ta'avao was going. Good lesson for him.

Nyakane played Ta'avao, sure. But the penalty I'm talking about in second half.

@Bones said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

@stodders said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

@kev said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

@stodders you have to win the contact.

I thought ABs did that at times. Problem was, ABs committed too many men to breakdown, so after 2 or 3 phases they were running out of players and Boks were picking them off.

ABs body angles at clearout aren't good enough to clear bodies, so it is taking an extra man to effect it. It doesn't help that refs are allowing players to slow ball down whilst clearly not supporting their bodyweight, but hey, c'est la vie.

What seems to be issue is that oppo tacklers good at impeding ball placement. Then second man patient and gets the latch. Our cleaners aren’t taking him out.

Noticed Ardie several times looking to do same, but all but once Boks body smashed into him, in some cases arguably before he’d joined the ruck.

Yeah, but Marx has awful technique and gets away with it. It's supposed to be exactly what they're looking for to penalise - hands on the floor first, hips well in front of feet, knees leaning on the player on the ground, taking advantage of his own players impeding cleaners and ball placement. It literally ticks all the fucking boxes, almost everytime and then that fluffybunny Gardiner has the gall to penalise Scooter for offside on the charge down and Cane for being off his feet despite never being off his feet.

He's lined himself up nicely for a RWC final gig.

First penalty PSDT was all over carrier like cheap Italian suit. No release, clear or otherwise!

@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

@Tim But then after that, he came right and put the SA prop under pressure. Is it a concentration thing?

First scrum with this AB pack, and that Bok pack with Angus’s calling, is always likely to cause initial scrum instability. Many good refs make allowances.

Just rewatching. I'd be interested in @NTA view, but it looked to me as though Kitshoff pulled that down.

In which case, file with kickable penalty against PSDT for non-release on first Marx jackal, and non-penalty for Cane jackal which AG missed and penalised him for fishing on deck.

@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

@Tim But then after that, he came right and put the SA prop under pressure. Is it a concentration thing?

First scrum with this AB pack, and that Bok pack with Angus’s calling, is always likely to cause initial scrum instability. Many good refs make allowances.

@Tim said in Springboks v All Blacks I:

Beauden Barrett pulled something out at 25 mins in, but A Ioane threw a shithouse pass in-field. Only time we've looked dangerous so far.

That was a backyard play. If accurate, Rieko was under sticks.