@frank said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

@pakman said in Crusaders v Highlanders (2 April 2021):

Couple of things I’ve not seen mentioned.

1. Highlander runners seemed for at least first 60 to back off/slow a tad/change line at last moment going into contact. Result was a bit like when a scrum fakes at hit. Oppo overbalanced and contact ineffective. Whatever it was it really threw Saders momentum at breakdown.

2. Clan seemed to target running one out and then angling back in behind ruck. Seemed that analysis may have identified space there, and good yards made.

Seemed also to result in Saders not getting the rub of the red and black, as per usual.

If I were Super coaches I’d be pouring over tape!

A bit of actual rugby analysis rather than endless moaning about the refereeing. Awesome stuff!!

Apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Pakman was at Dublin 1991, Ellis Park 1995, Twickenham 1999, Sydney 2003 and Cardiff 2007. He's watching on Sky.

Irish have no chance.

@tewaio Yes. A bit concerned that Owen Franks will have lost his pace when he returns.

@Jaguares4real said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

@Yeetyaah

You misinterpreted my post

Simply put Cane is more versatile as a player than Cane

ala Hooper is with Pocock

You've got me with that one.

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@kiwimurph I also found it interesting re: announcement of WR's guidelines on training time limits when he said it depends on what you consider "full contract" but the amount of time sounded right to him.

Full contract may have been Freudian slip about his position.

@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@hooroo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

i dont mind it

I'm underwhelmed a bit but I don't know what I would change with no ALB. Can't argue with forwards though.

Whilst still a work in progress, Ioane is the second best centre in the squad, so he has to play there.

I would’ve gone for Reece on the wing, but can’t complain about the other two selected.

Will be interesting if one of our wingers has to go off, will they put Tups on and move Ioane or do they put DMac on and move Jordie. If it’s early in the game I reckon the latter because of experience.

Flakes did well against Boks when Hodge came on by having big boot to drive them back when kicking for territory.

So Jordie for me to stay at 15. I’d bring on Quinn.

I understand none of this post.

Flakes = Hodge

Cadbury flakes = wallabies

Term of 'endearment'!

@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Interesting comments by Foz about the bench and picking those who had played the Boks before.

Good conference. To me significant he name checked Sotutu's injury.

@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@hooroo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

i dont mind it

I'm underwhelmed a bit but I don't know what I would change with no ALB. Can't argue with forwards though.

Whilst still a work in progress, Ioane is the second best centre in the squad, so he has to play there.

I would’ve gone for Reece on the wing, but can’t complain about the other two selected.

Will be interesting if one of our wingers has to go off, will they put Tups on and move Ioane or do they put DMac on and move Jordie. If it’s early in the game I reckon the latter because of experience.

Flakes did well against Boks when Hodge came on by having big boot to drive them back when kicking for territory.

So Jordie for me to stay at 15. I’d bring on Quinn.

I understand none of this post.

Boks rely heavily on kicking for territory. When Hodge was recipent he booted them back 20m behind where they started. It really negated that tactic. Jordie can do that.

With Cadbury on your chest oughtn't Crunchie to be your coach?

@jc said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

I'm amazed to find that Scott Barrett has nearly 50 tests under his belt. And we still think of him as the journeyman.

For me this year he’s come of age at international level.

@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@hooroo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

i dont mind it

I'm underwhelmed a bit but I don't know what I would change with no ALB. Can't argue with forwards though.

Whilst still a work in progress, Ioane is the second best centre in the squad, so he has to play there.

I would’ve gone for Reece on the wing, but can’t complain about the other two selected.

Will be interesting if one of our wingers has to go off, will they put Tups on and move Ioane or do they put DMac on and move Jordie. If it’s early in the game I reckon the latter because of experience.

Flakes did well against Boks when Hodge came on by having big boot to drive them back when kicking for territory.

So Jordie for me to stay at 15. I’d bring on Quinn.

When is the team named?

Why does Jesse Kriel not get a run? Lovely swerve and good player!

@kruse said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@dice said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@chris-b said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

having watched teh last two Bok tests it would be an enormously stupid error to pick an inferior all-round player just to negate one part of what the opposition does, and not look to making more of what we do well.

I wouldn't have Bridge in the 23, he is unnecessary.

We have a team full of finishers. We want someone who can create the opportunities.

well put, i really do miss people like B & C smith (and obviously others), sure they finished a lot themselves but i most fondly remember them just making those breaks/half beaks that then had two or three other feed off and finish

Our current four wings are scoring tries at almost unprecedented rates.

Rieko 30/42
Even the much maligned George 12/15
Will 11/8
Sevu 10/13

TOTAL 63 tries 78 tests 0.8 tries per test.

Doug Howlett got 49/62 at 0.79
Cully got 46/58 at 0.79
Goldie got 44/60 at 0.73
Big Jules got 46/64at 0.72
Joe Rok got 46/69 at 0.66
Jonah got 37/63 at 0.58
Bender got 39/84 at 0.46
Tana got 36/74 at 0.48

It's not that unusual for AB wingers to start their Test careers with a good try scoring rate. It's maintaining that strike rate after the first couple of years that seems to be quite tough.

These guys started out with fairly good try scoring rates.

Joe Rokocoko - 24 tries in first 16 tests
Julian Savea - 29 tries in first 25 tests
Tana Umaga - 22 tries in first 24 tests
Jonah Lomu - 14 tries in first 15 tests
Christian Cullen - 23 tries in first 23 Tests
Doug Howlett - 10 tries in first 11 Tests
Jeff Wilson - 20 tries in first 24 tests

Do/Should we start automatically dropping wingers at 20 tests?

Quite sweeping statement, but it seems the 'skill/pace wingers' (Goldie/Dougie) maintained rate better than the physical freaks (Jonah/Bus/Rocket)?

@act-crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

Update

1 - George Bridge
2 - Will Jordan
3 - Sevu Reece
4 - Rieko Ioane
5 - Caleb Clarke
6 - Jordie Barrett
7 - Ben Smith
8 - Waisake Naholo
9 - Nehe Milner-Skudder

11 - Matt Duffie
12 - Israel Dagg
13 - Julian Savea
14 - Charles Piutau
15 - George Moala
16 - Colin Slade
17 - Cory Jane
18 - Frank Halai
19 - Rene Ranger
20 - Hosea Gear
21 - Zac Guildford
22 - Richard Kahui
23 - Sonny Bill Williams
24 - Isaia Toeava
25 - Sitiveni Sivivatu
26 - Joe Rokocoko
27 - Lelia Masaga

29 - Rudi Wulf
30 - Doug Howlett
31 - Rico Gear
32 - Scott Hamilton
33 - Mils Muliaina
34 - Caleb Ralph
35 - Jonah Lomu
36 - Roger Randle
37 - Jeff Wilson
38 - Bruce Reihana
39 - Tana Umaga

Ma’a?