Hardly mentioned but the pink ball makes fielding bloody difficult, especially behind the wicket.

I watched Paine struggle to judge depth in Adelaide and BJ had a prick of a time all day.
Latham simply didn't see it till way too late

Bloody ockers have a special one in "loose bus change". Incredible innings and the partnership with Smith was enthralling test cricket.

Our tenacity, composure and discipline filled me with pride. No other team in the world could have stuck to it like we did in those batting conditions. Wags and Colin and latterly Timmy were top drawer and slinky performed a tough task admirably.

Honours close to even but Aus have runs on the board.

Comment from an Aussie today "we hammered you". "No, I thought we restricted you superbly". Yeah but you could've been hammered".
Jingoistic fucknuckles who know sod all are not solely the domain of All Black fans.

Game on, advantage Australia, but some great kiwi attributes on display

@NTA said in BOP Eruption?:

@Siam said in BOP Eruption?:

So perhaps we listen to the willing pilot, recognise the heartache of the families, and not call off the whole thing because a middle aged expat in Australia thinks he's worked out the meaning of life!

Or, like the people who want to (distastefully) promote the Maori name for White Island during this tragedy, some pilot wants to bag a bit of publicity.

You cynical bugger, time for you to move back to the country

@booboo yes yes, everybody here can rationalise the pitfalls of body recovery.

It turns out that human history is littered with a philosophy of retrieving your dead comrades.

Pike river, the US Marines, all armies the endless clips of distraught people wanting " closure" all indicate that this is obviously important to those suffering and indeed the pilot, who have to deal with this tragedy, not just watch it from afar.

So perhaps we listen to the willing pilot, recognise the heartache of the families, and not call off the whole thing because a middle aged expat in Australia thinks he's worked out the meaning of life!

@voodoo said in BOP Eruption?:

I think we can all agree there should be different levels of regulation for a rescue than for a body retrieval. For the former, I have zero issue with 99% of decisions sitting with individuals. The 1% reservation is for the potential for support crew being pressured into accompanying a gung-ho rescue pilot or similar. But for the most part, government should stay out of it.

For body retrieval, I can understand safety first for all involved. But then I have never been in n the situation of having a loved ones body lying dead on a beach. Hard to know how you'd feel.

Exactly!

Fluffybunnies making decisions from miles away, full of self importance, and ignoring those at the coalface.

@booboo said in BOP Eruption?:

@Siam said in BOP Eruption?:

@NTA said in BOP Eruption?:

So, let's say that one of these pilots decides - and is not prevented - from flying to the island for a deceased recovery operation.

They crash due to conditions, but are still alive and radio for help.

Is the government then obliged to send more live bodies in to rescue the living bodies that went after the dead bodies?

Or do they say "You exercised your individual choice to fly there. We are exercising our right to leave you to that choice"?

All of the above mate. Your scenario makes little allowance for the acumen and capabilities of a person whose summed up the situation and wants to act. Being stranded must certainly have crossed his/her mind.

The trouble with over regulation is that it relies on the perception that everyone's a village idiot

Caveat emptor for the rescuer

Who are they "rescuing"?

Obviously not your loved ones

It's Fucken India with an Aussie pitch. Hot as buggery and beat the infield and it's 4.

We're doing an amazing job of discipline and planning.

Defo deserve something here....but....Australia

@NTA sort of. But there's enough logic in those for genuine buy in. The fines for tiny "village idiot" misdemeanors taint their sensibilities though.

Not a great comparison for the right to risk your life, intelligently, for a universal good.

@NTA said in BOP Eruption?:

So, let's say that one of these pilots decides - and is not prevented - from flying to the island for a deceased recovery operation.

They crash due to conditions, but are still alive and radio for help.

Is the government then obliged to send more live bodies in to rescue the living bodies that went after the dead bodies?

Or do they say "You exercised your individual choice to fly there. We are exercising our right to leave you to that choice"?

All of the above mate. Your scenario makes little allowance for the acumen and capabilities of a person whose summed up the situation and wants to act. Being stranded must certainly have crossed his/her mind.

The trouble with over regulation is that it relies on the perception that everyone's a village idiot

Caveat emptor for the rescuer

@nzzp Adelaide started at 2:30 local time and did 20 mins then 40 mins