@antipodean definitely one for the hawt thread

@Bones said in Plans for Saturday:

Going to my bros for the ABs game now. Watching the England game here. It's past 7am, time for a cider methinks.

Beer and pulled brisket for breakfast, the breakfast of champions !

@mariner4life said in Plans for Saturday:

Errands run. In front of the racing. Will watch TV from the pool. Drinking beer.

Yay life.

Winning at winning.

@antipodean said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:

@booboo said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:

@TeWaio said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:

capitalism / economic growth is the only thing that's going to generate the technological progress to solve/adapt to climate change.

This is pretty much my opinion

It's not an opinion, it's an historical fact good enough to make predictions qhen compared to every other model.

Am looking at buying a Kamado Joe. Anyone have experience with these and can point me in the right direction in terms of which model? Do they all come with the indirect dampener plate for smoking as standard?

Right, so XR started a new protest at Oxford Circus about 30mins ago. The police have made all XR protests in London illegal now, for this one the ran out and hastily erected the teepee pole thing when the lights were red, then a load of people put bicycle D-lock around their necks attaching themselves to the poles. Big police presence as you can see, everyone there risking arrest.

Anyway, as it's right outside my work, I wandered down to have a chat to some of them. Couple of students skipping out of uni, they were really friendly. It all comes down to ideology. They think best course of action is shrink western economies and redistribute all the wealth. I said capitalism / economic growth is the only thing that's going to generate the technological progress to solve/adapt to climate change. A left wing vs right wing approach.

We had some common ground in favour a global emissions trading scheme / robust carbon price to create an economic forcing function that pushes towards cleaner technology. And a reformed economic system that better captures the externalities and public cost of goods and services. They were really intelligent, well-spoken people.

I questioned whether blocking intersections is just going to piss people off more than help the cause. They said doing nothing hasn't really been working, which is also true.

They said people in 3rd world countries were seeing the effects of climate change now, and our media refuses to show it (got a bit tin foil hat-y here). I said its hard to deny those same people the chance to grow into a first world standard of living, if they can't have the emissions that go along with it. Then the discussion circled (predictably) back to wealth distribution.

@nzzp said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

This is quality.

Side that has no knockout wins thinks NZ are mentally weak. Lads, you're 12 years too late.

https://www.the42.ie/kiwi-world-cup-doubt-all-blacks-new-zealand-chokers-4853760-Oct2019/

That was such a painful read. They even pulled out the whole Beaver-penalty-not-really-going-over-in-2011 thing.

Brexit betting - Betfair is currently showing a 47% chance that a meaningful vote would pass in 2019. Odds have been building since the low point after DUP said they'd vote against.

@Bones said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:

@Rembrandt said in Climate Change #3 & Other Environmental Issues:

@Siam Maybe they might have gotten away with it on the way to work..but on the way home where folk need to go and feed their kids..nah that's just suicide. At this point I'm starting to think ER are being bankrolled by Big Coal such is their effectiveness at gaining public support to their cause.

It was on the way to work wasn't it?

Yeah it was. I read the assumption that many working class commuters at that time would be on zero hours contracts, so if they didn't turn up on time = no pay. Or shift workers coming home from a night's work. Which might partly explain the furious reaction.

@MajorRage Yeah. Maybe not zero, but low.Whoever said 10% earlier probably about right.

The fact both sides seem to dislike the deal probably means its pretty good, and in the middle, as there's no perfect way out of this mess