Fat Fighting the Red Beard way.
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[quote name='Kirwan']Pretty awesome workouts RB, how's the weight loss coming? <br />
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I'm being nosy as I like to see what works for different people.[/QUOTE]<br />
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The workouts are going great guns but the scales arent moving as yet. (unless Im burning fat and adding good mass). Ive been really trying to ramp up the intensity lately so its frustrating. Im definitely getting fitter and my strength is still increasing but the motor is still as big as ever. Im going to really review the quality and quantity of every gram of food thats going in the gob and see how I can refine the eating. -
[quote name='Red Beard']The workouts are going great guns but the scales arent moving as yet. (unless Im burning fat and adding good mass). Ive been really trying to ramp up the intensity lately so its frustrating. Im definitely getting fitter and my strength is still increasing but the motor is still as big as ever. Im going to really review the quality and quantity of every gram of food thats going in the gob and see how I can refine the eating.[/QUOTE]<br />
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That's what makes people give up too, I think, going hard out and doing lots of exercise and not seeing the result they want. Maybe you should take measurements as well, in case you are gaining muscle. If you aren't seeing a reduction in the right areas then you know it's the diet..<br />
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I find it pretty much impossible to lose weight while drinking, for example. And the more I read up, the more I see that its 70% diet. Which sucks. <br />
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That said, in my 30%, might be time to add some "tin" as you call it, more like tinfoil for me though. -
[quote name='Kirwan']That's what makes people give up too, I think, going hard out and doing lots of exercise and not seeing the result they want. Maybe you should take measurements as well, in case you are gaining muscle. If you aren't seeing a reduction in the right areas then you know it's the diet..<br />
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I find it pretty much impossible to lose weight while drinking, for example. And the more I read up, the more I see that its 70% diet. Which sucks. <br />
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That said, in my 30%, might be time to add some "tin" as you call it, more like tinfoil for me though.[/QUOTE]<br />
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All have to start some where Kirwin. Pushing weights helps with fat loss and should be used in conjunction with cardio to loose weight. However we all have to start from some where. It doesnt matter how much, or how little you push its still better than nothing, and you'll find that after a bit of time you'll increase your strength quite quickly. The most important thing, and I know its hard is to not get disheartened when you dont see noticable signs of improvement, but you'll be surprised with what gains you're actually getting. <br />
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I remember back in October I got back into the gym after 6 months out of it and I sucked something cronic. My first set was at a good weight, but ild die instantly. Ild go from pushing 80lb dumbell bench for 8 reps, to barely being able to do 2 reps of 50lb the very next set. And it spread over the rest of my exercises to. I hated it, but the more I stuck to it the better I got. Not so much in strength but I was able to more sets/reps. They're the sort of gains you need to look out for, and use for motivation. -
[quote name='Kirwan']That's what makes people give up too, I think, going hard out and doing lots of exercise and not seeing the result they want. Maybe you should take measurements as well, in case you are gaining muscle. If you aren't seeing a reduction in the right areas then you know it's the diet..<br />
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I find it pretty much impossible to lose weight while drinking, for example. And the more I read up, the more I see that its 70% diet. Which sucks. <br />
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That said, in my 30%, might be time to add some "tin" as you call it, more like tinfoil for me though.[/QUOTE]<br />
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Ive also become quite sceptical over bodyfat measurements over the years. Ive seen so many so called qualified trainers take them in slightly different places for all kinds of wacky results. At the same gym two trainers once took my BF levels over two days one tried to tell me I was 12% the other 25%. If I was a betting man I would have said I was halfway between those two figures.<br />
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I feel bloody committed though at the moment, I know if I keep refining and improving I will get there. On reflection it must be the eating holding me back. -
[quote name='Red Beard']Ive also become quite sceptical over bodyfat measurements over the years. Ive seen so many so called qualified trainers take them in slightly different places for all kinds of wacky results. At the same gym two trainers once took my BF levels over two days one tried to tell me I was 12% the other 25%. If I was a betting man I would have said I was halfway between those two figures.<br />
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I feel bloody committed though at the moment, I know if I keep refining and improving I will get there. On reflection it must be the eating holding me back.[/QUOTE]<br />
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Everybody does it slightly different. However if you get it done by the same person you should be able to start seeing how you're goign -
[quote name='Kirwan']<br />
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I find it pretty much impossible to lose weight while drinking, for example. And the more I read up, the more I see that its 70% diet. Which sucks. <br />
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Great call there, I've been trying to lose a few kegs for a while.....bit of weights and a fair bit of running during the week goes right out the window after a big night in the weekend. Had my last big event for a while in the weekend, so Im knocking the bottle on the head for at least 3 months......1, to get this tank down in size....2, for my own health.....3, I used to enjoy sunday mornings. -
3 - spot on, I do NOT miss the Sunday hangovers!! I had my first real lear up a month or so back, first for a couple of years I reckon. Kidneys were sore for a week, not used to processing so much waste!!<br />
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Also an incidental, our new trainer, as we were talking the other day was saying that after you get on the grog, your body will not burn your fat reserves for energy for a good 72 hours (3 days). So you're not going to be losing much fat when you are on the grog!!<br />
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But yes, as we all get older I think we know that it is at least 70% what goes in your gob.<br />
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WEights - you'll enjoy that K, variation, and you'll feel your body 'tighten' for want of a better word! -
[quote name='BartMan']3 - spot on, I do NOT miss the Sunday hangovers!! I had my first real lear up a month or so back, first for a couple of years I reckon. Kidneys were sore for a week, not used to processing so much waste!!<br />
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Also an incidental, our new trainer, as we were talking the other day was saying that after you get on the grog, your body will not burn your fat reserves for energy for a good 72 hours (3 days). So you're not going to be losing much fat when you are on the grog!!<br />
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But yes, as we all get older I think we know that it is at least 70% what goes in your gob.<br />
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WEights - you'll enjoy that K, variation, and you'll feel your body 'tighten' for want of a better word![/QUOTE]<br />
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I intend to do weights until the day I die. As if Clint Eastwood isn't cool enough already I read that last year he did a 200lb ( 90 kg ) rep on the bench. Thats some effort for an 80 year old. Talk about inspirational stuff, I'd love to be able to say that ( if I make to it 80 that is ! ) <br />
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I'd be a leaner bean if I didn't drink, that's definitely my main vice.... -
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I'd be a leaner bean if I didn't drink, that's definitely my main vice....[/QUOTE]<br />
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Over the last couple months Ive stopped drinking. Originally because my uni studies over the summer were to full on, but now have decided to give it up fully for the rugby season. Since then I have noticed that the gains I have been getting from the limited training Ive been doing is a lot higher than I ever used to get when I was drinking. Plus Sundays are so much more enjoyable when I'm not battling a hang over
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[quote name='Red Beard']Ive also become quite sceptical over bodyfat measurements over the years. Ive seen so many so called qualified trainers take them in slightly different places for all kinds of wacky results. At the same gym two trainers once took my BF levels over two days one tried to tell me I was 12% the other 25%. If I was a betting man I would have said I was halfway between those two figures.<br />
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I feel bloody committed though at the moment, I know if I keep refining and improving I will get there. On reflection it must be the eating holding me back.[/QUOTE]<br />
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Well you are certainly training the house down, if you make an adjustment in the diet as well you'll cruise down. And I was meaning tape measurements, not body fat tests.<br />
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I use the "Can I fit in my old suit/t-shirt/jeans" measurement. Happily, all but one suit I bought when I hit 80kgs last time fits. -
[quote name='BartMan']hangover food - sunday papers, pie, coke and bread roll. Maybe 2 pies. Good old days.[/QUOTE]<br />
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All those calaries on top of the 18-24 beers on the Saturday night, plus the dozen or so had after trainings on Thursday. Still treat my self with the food every so often, but with no added liquid calaries. -
[quote name='Chubby13']All those calaries on top of the 18-24 beers on the Saturday night, plus the dozen or so had after trainings on Thursday. Still treat my self with the food every so often, but with no added liquid calaries.[/QUOTE]<br />
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[QUOTE]I use the "Can I fit in my old suit/t-shirt/jeans" measurement. Happily, all but one suit I bought when I hit 80kgs last time fits. [/QUOTE]<br />
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those are the best - the belt notches. I am back to one out from 'skinny' at the moment, got out to two out, and the shorts getting a bit snug. Better now. But clothes certainly the best measure I reckon (and cheapest)!! -
[quote name='BartMan']those are the best - the belt notches. I am back to one out from 'skinny' at the moment, got out to two out, and the shorts getting a bit snug. [B]Better now. But clothes certainly the best measure I reckon (and cheapest)![/B]![/QUOTE]<br />
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Or you use the trusty tape measure and try and be honest with yourself ( ie not too snug around the waist while at the same time not too loose around the bulging guns ) -
Yeah I've never used the tape measure, as I said I dont particularly trust BF testing either. Think Barts belt notch test is the one I like best although have to admit I prob only wear trou (not black Levi Super tapers either before you ask Bart) with a belt for the odd funeral and out to dinner once a month in the winter. Never had too much trouble dropping kegs before, maybe it does get tougher when older! Im sure if I iron out my intake I will be sweet. While I love doing weights, I aint doing all this cardio for nought!!!
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[B]Turei [/B]<br />
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615-7pm <br />
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[B]Gym[/B]<br />
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[B]The Bear:[/B] 40kg 7 reps, 50 kg 7 reps, 60kg 5 sets of 5 reps.<br />
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[B]Treadmill[/B] 10 minutes: 5 x 60 second intervals @ 12kph, One minute between each set.<br />
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That'll do me.