Waikato v Wellington



  • The team that was relegated in 2017 is smashing the team that got promoted. It would be nice if Waikato could grab the shield from Taranaki.



  • Hope I didn't jinx it. Try Matt Proctor.

    43 - 19 Waikato



  • I jinxed it. Intercept try Tuitama. Bonus point for Wellington.

    43 - 26 Waikato



  • Geezus. Try Filipo. Has Waikato already left the stadium?

    JGB misses another kick.

    43 - 31 Waikato



  • Never one to really be overjoyed about a Waikato victory but I have made an exception to that tonight. They won way better than the final scoreline indicates
    Waikato 43 - 31 Wellington



  • Lions were aweful tonight. Just can't afford to have guys like Blackwell, Kirifi, Goosen, Lam, Fifita, T Umaga Jensen rested at once. Too much experience off the park.

    Pretty poor season management by the coach. Could have rested half the players against Southland last Friday and then another half against Waikato instead of taking half the team out at once. Could cost us a playoff berth with a tough run home.

    Waikato well deserved their victory tonight.



  • @higgins Totally agree. Wellington were rudderless. No passion and none of them looked like they knew what was going on half the time.

    Only forward that really showed anything was "Izzy from Gizzy" as the commentators kept calling him.



  • I don't know much about that Wellington number 18. Looking at the team lists for when he played against my club I see he was listed on the bench but cannot recall how he played if he did get on the field. Got a vague recollection seeing him play for one of the Heartland Championship teams but again nothing to really remember him by. Looks like he is probably an import from somewhere offshore. Hopefully someone out there might be able to fill us in with a bit of background on him.



  • @higgins That Heartland team was Wanganui. He has played for Samoa A. Don't know whether he has ever played for the main Samoan squad.



  • Waldrom is well past his best. as is Renata. Foe was a bit rubbish too. Filipo is worth another look at though. But Turia is only a backup 1st at best.

    For the next game. Goosen at FB. He's Wellingtons best back and he's better utilized at FB than wing. I would have Lam and Filipo on the wing. And maybe try Billy Proctor at 2nd5 to see how it goes as defense in the first half was rubbish. Put Ben-Nicholas at 8, with Fifita and Kififi and Blackwell replacing Mangos. And hope JTA is back soon as out propping depth is not great



  • Best Wellington team for me would be:

    1. Numia 2. Aumua 3. Toomaga Allen 4. Walker-Leawere 5. Blackwell 6. Fifita 7. Kirifi 8. Ben Nicholas 9. Price 10. Garden Bachop 11. Lam 12. T Umaga Jensen 13. M Proctor 14. P Umaga Jensen 15. Goosen

    2. Anyone but O'Reilly - far too small at this level. 17. Fahamoikioa 18. ? 19. Mangos 20. Kafatolu 21. Hauiti Parapara 22. Va'a 23. B Proctor



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  • Very kind of Ox to help Jono break his losing streak with those selections!

    I’m sure thought they could get by them, but I’ll take it.



  • I haven't read the comments yet but a few observations from the game.
    (1) Waikato looked OK for 65 mins but the porous defence in the last 15 mins was bloody annoying, and a return to previous form.
    (2) Wellington were very poor during that period, a lot of handling errors (from both teams really).
    (3) Manihera is a frustrating player as he is always good for some meathead moments.
    (4) The Waikato tactic of passing wide was always susceptible to an intercept so it was no surprise to finally concede one.
    (5) Fifita did SFA in this game. You would expect him to shine at this level.



  • @canes4life said in Waikato v Wellington:

    Best Wellington team for me would be:

    1. Numia 2. Aumua 3. Toomaga Allen 4. Walker-Leawere 5. Blackwell 6. Fifita 7. Kirifi 8. Ben Nicholas 9. Price 10. Garden Bachop 11. Lam 12. T Umaga Jensen 13. M Proctor 14. P Umaga Jensen 15. Goosen

    2. Anyone but O'Reilly - far too small at this level. 17. Fahamoikioa 18. ? 19. Mangos 20. Kafatolu 21. Hauiti Parapara 22. Va'a 23. B Proctor

    Why Numia? I thought Fahamoikioa has played well.

    Agree that Thomas is the better 2nd 5 (compared to Peter). Although unsure if his defense is good enough. I would just like to have another look at Filipo. But otherwise agree with Peter on the wing in preference to Tuitama. Price looks class so want to see more of him



  • I just think Fahamoikioa provides better impact off the bench. I think Hintz should make a move back to hooker where he played when he was at school. He is far too small for a NPC size prop.

    Prop is defs our weakness and we really miss Fidow this year.

    Does anyone know when Lousi is back?



  • @bovidae

    (5) Classic yarn.



  • @canes4life The match programme has Fifita at 6, and it looked like him. Is Ben-Nicholas a doppelganger?



  • @bovidae
    Yeap. Ben Nicholas was 6 tonight, he normally plays 8. Fifita was all the way back in Welly, hard for him to make an impact off the couch. 😛



  • They all look the same. 🤣


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