Supplements



  • Keen to hear from the pro's on this one (here's looking at your bart) plus any of the other peeps like me who like to lift a bit of tin.

    Was talking to one of the trainers this morning during my workout and they asked what supplements I was taking to which I replied only protein. I also take a multi daily as well as omegas but dont think of those as a supplement. Anyway, they suggested I should be taking some aminos or L-glutamine to assist with recovery. Hadn't considered either before but that is what I am doing now. I know my protein has some BCAAs in it but unsure how much compared to the amino supplements.

    I asked my trainer about it on the way out and he was a bit ho hum about them and said wasn't really required but that he got great results out of tribulus which I hadn't heard of before and until I googled and found out if was a natural teste booster I had no idea what it even did. So now even more confused!

    So any of you fellas had any experience with this stuff or recommendations?

    Cheers
    JK



  • Definitely not a pro but definitely like to lift a bit of tin.

    It's pretty hard for me to justify spending lots on this sort of stuff ( as I'm not a professional athlete nor do I have any action movie roles coming up ) but I will still pop into my mates supplement place in town and hang around with a long face until he gives me some free stuff or tells me to fuck off, whichever comes first. Superpump had no effect on me at all but Curse ( looks like an Iron Maiden album cover ) blew me away and helped me get a PB for reps whilst deadlifting. He says much of this is down to different body types etc and how a person metabolises stuff. My mate who is a mountain runner, my height but about 70kg dripping wet has just splashed out on some Mass freak. If I was to do the same at about 30kg heavier the danger might be that I get a bit bloated and put on the wrong kind of weight given this shit has a ridiculous amount of carbs as well as protein. He just wants to get more solid, around 80kg or so, still lean but not as lean......

    As many of the tubs of supplelements cost three figures it's definitely wise to try them out with a few sachets first I reckon.



  • I dont mind Curse either - had a few free trials and always got a good workout out of it but get a close to similar result from a double shot espresso so usually just have one of those pre workout.

    I've got a fairly fast metabolism and only place i usually put weight on is my gut. Took creatine a few months back and reckoned it made a fair bit of difference but some of this must have been water retention as Ive lost weight and a bit of bulk since I came off it.

    May go back on at some time but interested to find out a bit more re aminos and L-glutamine in the first instance



  • Hmmm where is that Bart fella when ya need him lol



  • you rang...??!!

    Creatine - never really had much success with it. Does make your muscles hold in the water I think. Going to give it a decent crack in the off season and see what it does.

    L-Glutamine - we take that aids recovery

    aminos - take that now that we are leaning down so we don't burn upn the muscle for fuel!



  • Thanks Bart

    Picked up some BCAAs yesterday and have started on them. Horrible smelling and tasting stuff and gives me the bright as piss haha. Hopefully will see further effects over time.



  • at trainers tomorrow, will ask about creatine and how it works etc... Always curious!!



  • Like most supps creatine has acute and chronic effects.

    Acute: water retention is the obvious one so, Bart, I wouldn't suggest taking it anytime close to a show. The second one is that increases the creatine in your muscle cells. Creatine forms part of the phosphocreatine which fuels work of high intensity and short duration.

    Chronic: the increase in phosphocreatine increases the time you can spend working at maximal intensity. This, in turn, allows you to lift heavier for longer which increases your gains muscular size and strength.



  • cheers Junior on that - much better explanation that it makes you a sponge.



  • Pretty simple really when you put it like that.

    Reckon creatine was worthwhile for me so will go back on it again for a bit from about Feb or March when I try build a bit more bulk.

    BCAAs are almost done and not really decided as to the effect its had. I have upped my training a fair bit and coped well. I guess the test will be once they run out and how I recover then.



  • Good read as always. Always nice to get some info things I know nothing about.
    What do you guys recommend someone like me, tipping the scale at just under 80kgs, just wanting to loose some belly fat and tone some muscles?

    Someone suggested Whey, but I have never tried supplements. Might start with those small sachets as someone suggested.



  • shove the supplements up your arse ally... (In a nice way)!!

    Lose belly fat and tone muscles, you don't need to spend money on supplements. Watch what you eat, and do some exercise! Then once you start to get results, then start thinking about supplements, perhaps.

    Lose that body fat is simple process of burn more calories than you consume. Not rocket science. (My new favourite saying)! Gain some muscle tone - lift some weights.

    and you've just saved a ton of dosh.



  • I took creatine in March, April this year, and it did have some effect to make me stronger at the time. However, since then, I've maintained or increased the strength through regular consistency (I still do 3 sets of 15 dips with no trouble, etc), so I feel creatine is a bit of a cheat process. I do use ON whey several times a day when training hard. The best thing though I feel, is to have chicken (plus a little beef) and veges consistently during the day from AM to night-3 to 4 times, and rest well.



  • If you have a cardio-heavy regime, I would recommend Q10 tablets. I used to take them during the footy off and pre season when I was doing a lot of road running and I got incredibly fit incredibly quickly.



  • A mate of mine was on creatine when we went to the Warriors game at Eden Park this year. The girl in front of us turned around and told our girlfriends to stop talking so loud. Out of nowhere he just goes "Hey Bitch, Shut the Fark up!". Then of course the guy she was with turned around and they started yelling at each other.

    He blamed the creatine for the mood swings, but I hadn't heard of that symptom of creatine?



  • me either Milk - sounds like an excuse!



  • Yeah. Maybe creatine wasn't the only 'supplement' he was taking...



  • [quote name='BartMan']shove the supplements up your arse ally... (In a nice way)!!

    Lose belly fat and tone muscles, you don't need to spend money on supplements. Watch what you eat, and do some exercise! Then once you start to get results, then start thinking about supplements, perhaps.

    Lose that body fat is simple process of burn more calories than you consume. Not rocket science. (My new favourite saying)! Gain some muscle tone - lift some weights.

    and you've just saved a ton of dosh.[/QUOTE]

    Brilliant! Best free advice I've received in a long time, Bart.

    Yeah, I am doing some exercises with the dumbbells and mixing some pilates in. The belly fat has slowly been disappearing. Muscles toning, without supplement.

    I agree, watch what you eat. I still eat what I like on weekends, but I make sure I have a good cardio sessions the Sunday Eve.
    Dropped down to one 500ml of Coke per week, so slowly getting there. Also eating more fruit, chicken and switched to wholewheat bread, slowly cutting out the bread too btw.

    So cheers, Bart. Cheers guys. Have a great December break, and good Christmas to all that celebrate it.



  • make those sugaery things TREATS, not every day foods and that's half your battle methinks! AS s talked about on some other thread - eating is 80% of the battle. Have a friend, a police chick, who has not lost 10kg simply by not eating BREAD. Zero other changes to her diet, just not eating bread!!



  • Reviving this as I want some advice on BCAA's as there are millions out there. What are the right amino acids and what should be the concentrations if I am looking for good quality? Any help would be appreciated