Waikato 2020



  • Thought it's about time to make a Waikato thread though they aren't as many Waikato supporters on here as other provinces.

    Just rolling the speculation of signings.

    Roe is playing club rugby in Hamilton so assuming he's gonna be in the squad.
    Patrick Osbourne as reported by @OleOleOle



  • I was thinking about a potential squad today. There are a few players from last season's squad who have left or retired, some haven't been seen in club rugby (based on the team lists), while who knows about the injury status of other players.

    Out from 2019 - Toby Smith, Taleni Seu, Antonio Shalfoon, Jack Stratton, Carlos Price, Raniera Takarangi, Sevu Reece, Tyler Campbell.
    Injury status unknown - Laghlan McWhannell, James Tucker, Solomon Alaimalo.
    Retired from rep rugby - Dwayne Sweeney?
    Unknown - Sekope Lopeti-Moli, Sam Cooper, Manawa Veitayaki, Api Naikatini, Jahrome Brown.

    I haven't seen any club rugby so there will be players I have overlooked.

    Props
    Ayden Johnstone
    Ollie Norris
    Rob Cobb
    Josh Iosefa-Scott
    Plus 2 others (George Dyer as TH, the 3rd LH prop could be Vincent Green but he is in his first year out of school so too early)
    Sefo Kautai has returned from Japan but is a TH. Stanley Paese is another young TH prop.

    Hookers
    Samisoni Taukei'aho
    Anton Milnes
    A.N. Other (Haereiti Hetet)

    Locks (This will depend on the availability of Tucker and McWhannell).
    Hamilton Burr
    Tim Bond
    James Thompson
    Adam Thomson
    Samipeni Finau

    Two converted 6s in this group. Shneil Singh could be in the mix but there is a real lack of experience.

    Loose forwards
    Luke Jacobson
    Mitch Jacobson
    Liam Messam
    Simon Parker
    Murray Iti
    Hugo Nankivell
    Jeriah Mua

    I'd like to see Quade Tapsell given an opportunity.

    Halfbacks (All 3 from last year have departed)
    Xavier Roe
    Quintony Ngatai
    Cortez-Lee Ratima

    1st 5s
    Fletcher Smith
    Rivez Reihana
    Coby Miln

    Midfield
    Anton Lienert-Brown
    Quinn Tupaea
    Bailyn Sullivan
    Louis Rogers
    Jordan Bunce

    Outside Backs
    Patrick Osborne
    Solomon Alaimalo
    Declan O'Donnell
    Brandon Mudzekenyedzi
    Newton Tudreu
    Valance Te Whare/Gideon Wrampling
    Damian McKenzie
    Matty Landsdown



  • @Bovidae All 3 halfbacks? I'm sure Price still lives in Hamilton. Strange. There's a bunch of names in there that I've never heard.



  • @Yeetyaah Someone said that Price is back in BOP. He isn't playing Waikato club rugby.

    After checking Dr. Google, other players selected for Waikato in the CCC earlier in the year were:

    Tom Martin (based in Wellington)
    Kieran Westlake (no.8)
    Mateo Taiseni (hooker)
    Vainikolo Halafihi (loose forward)
    Liam Coombes-Fabling (wing/fullback)
    Tepaea Cook-Savage (1st 5/fullback)
    Paula Mahe (outside back)



  • @Yeetyaah said in Waikato 2020:

    There's a bunch of names in there that I've never heard.

    I am basing this on who was in the 2019 squad and have added a few players from previous NZ U20s and Waikato U19s.



  • @Bovidae Adam Thomson has signed for Waikato, another loosie option. (Still wish he stayed with Otago)



  • @NateHill74 That's right. Forgot about him....for good reason.

    Thomson will be used as a lock so our props better get used to no pushing.



  • @Bovidae Tudreu is with the Turbo. Gideon Wrampling could be worth a look...



  • @OleOleOle

    Tudreu was amongst the top try-scorers so must have only played the early part of the club season with Marist.

    I've seen a little bit of Wrampling for the NZ Schools and St Paul's last year. He is a midfielder but is playing on the wing for HOB. He has size and speed.

    Anyone else in with a chance?



  • @Bovidae yes, he left a couple of weeks ago...its a shame because he is a real threat with ball in hand. Te Whare is good. Not sure of many other signings at this point.....halfback is still a concern!



  • @Bovidae where did Tyler Campbell go?



  • @Yeetyaah I don't know, but he wasn't in the Waikato team that played in the CCC and I haven't seen his name listed in club rugby. I'm assuming he has left the province.



  • @Bovidae what's CCC?



  • Chiefs Country Centurion Cup.

    The Centurion Cup will see Chiefs Country Provincial Unions Bay of Plenty, Counties Manukau, Taranaki and Waikato play a quadrangular competition in Hamilton, as curtain raisers to the Gallagher Chiefs home matches at FMG Stadium Waikato.
    

    Waikato beat BOP in the final before the Chiefs vs Brumbies game.



  • @Yeetyaah said in Waikato 2020:

    @Bovidae where did Tyler Campbell go?

    He was in the China Lions squad for Rapid Rugby. So maybe he's moved to BOP?
    He's from the Gold Coast, isn't he? So another possibility is that he's gone back to Aussie?
    Or injured again.



  • @Stargazer I did wonder if Campbell had returned to Aust. We'll see if he turns up in the BOP squad.

    @Yeetyaah

    Here is the Waikato team that played BOP. I included some players based on their selection in this team. Exclude Stevenson as some Chiefs players were released to play for each of the 4 provinces.

    1. Rob Cobb

    2. Anton Milnes

    3. George Dyer

    4. Hamilton Burr

    5. Samipeni Finau

    6. Tom Martin (Captain)

    7. Hugo Nankivell

    8. Kieran Westlake

    9. Xavier Roe

    10. Rivez Reihana

    11. Bailyn Sullivan

    12. Louis Rogers

    13. Brandon Maudzekenyedzi

    14. Shaun Stevenson

    15. Liam Coombes-Fabling

    16. Mateo Taiseni

    17. Ollie Norris

    18. Manawa Veitayaki

    19. Adam Thomson

    20. Vainikolo Halafihi

    21. Jeriah Mua

    22. Simon Parker

    23. Tepaea Cook Savage

    24. Paula Mahe

    25. Cortez Ratima

    26. Coby Miln

    Other players used in the Counties game were:
    Josh Balme (lock)
    Haereiti Hetet (prop) - has been playing hooker for Oto



  • @Stargazer. Has moved to Queensland. he's playing club rugby in Brisbane this year



  • Looking at his latest instagram story, Fletcher Smith will play for Waikato.



  • The big question will be if Smith has a SR contract beyond this year?

    He seems to be on the outer at the Canes so maybe the Chiefs are interested with 2 positions to fill at 1st 5.



  • @Bovidae hasn't played the house down at the Canes but I'd be okay with him at the Chiefs tbh.





  • It's easy to forget that Mitch is still young. I hope he gets a regular shot in SR.



  • Another player who could make the Waikato squad is Beaudein Waaka as he doesn't appear to be part of the Taranaki squad this season.



  • @Bovidae

    Can he cover halfback??



  • @ARHS Waaka has been playing at fullback for Melville. I think he's more of an outside back in XVs.



  • @Bovidae Yep, for Taranaki he used to play either fullback or first five-eighth.



  • @Stargazer I do remember him playing on the wing too.



  • Asked the Waikato rugby page on Facebook when the squad is named, they responded with September 1st.



  • @Bovidae I saw him playing for Poverty Bay I think it was jeez he’s packed the beef on





  • http://www.mooloo.co.nz/newsarticle/94785

    Waikato Rugby is pleased to announce the signing of international duo of Patrick Osborne and Adam Thomson for the upcoming Mitre 10 Cup season.
    

    Not news but this was written at the bottom of the article.

    Waikato will announce the entire 2020 Mitre 10 Cup squad after the launch next Tuesday morning.
    

    So maybe not today?



  • @Bovidae Weird, they said it'd be today when they replied to my comment on Facebook.



  • Jahrome Brown could be in the Waikato squad again, after missing the entire season last year after breaking his leg in a preseason game.



  • @Bovidae is he not contracted to the Brumbies anymore?



  • @Yeetyaah I don't know, but Brown hasn't played for the Brumbies in SR AU has he? Someone connected with the Melville club told me he is back.



  • Waikato.jpeg

    Season ending injuries to players Solomon Alaimalo, Sam Cooper, Laghlan McWhannell and James Tucker, means they will play no part in this year’s campaign.



  • By position:

    Props
    Ollie Norris (10) Hautapu - LH
    Rob Cobb (5) Hamilton Old Boys - LH/TH
    George Dyer ( ) Fraser Tech - TH
    Josh Iosefa-Scott (30) Melville - TH
    Ayden Johnstone (23) Hautapu - LH
    Sosefo Kautai (31) Hamilton Marist - TH

    Hookers
    Samisoni Taukei’aho (33) Fraser Tech
    Sekope Lopeti-Moli (13) Hautapu
    Steven Misa (11) Hamilton Marist

    Locks
    Hamilton Burr (7) Hautapu - also 6
    Samipeni Finau (5) Hamilton Old Boys - also 6
    James Thompson (2) Hautapu
    Adam Thomson ( ) Morrrinsville Sports - also 6

    Loose forwards
    Luke Jacobson (11) Hautapu - 6/8 (captain)
    Mitch Jacobson (46) Hautapu - 6/7
    Liam Messam (85) Raglan - 6/8
    Simon Parker (6) Hautapu - 6/8

    Halfbacks
    Xavier Roe ( ) Hamilton Old Boys
    Cortez Ratima ( ) Otorohanga

    Inside backs
    Fletcher Smith (22) University
    Rivez Reihana (9) Melville
    Liam Coombes-Fabling ( ) Fraser Tech - also fullback
    Matty Lansdown (27) Fraser Tech - also fullback

    Midfield
    Anton Lienert-Brown (19) University
    Quinn Tupaea (21) Hamilton Old Boys
    Louis Rogers (6) University
    Bailyn Sullivan (26) Hamilton Marist - also wing

    Outside backs
    Damian McKenzie (24) University
    Patrick Osborne ( ) Fraser Tech
    Valynce Te Whare (3) Fraser Tech
    Gideon Wrampling ( ) Hamilton Old Boys



  • Only 2 halfbacks? Dunno about this squad, bunch of young fellas with a few oldies. Good development but hard to see them winning a whole lot.



  • @Yeetyaah Yep, only 2 halfbacks and no other no.7 like Nankivell or Mua to backup M Jacobson.

    31 players seems to be a smaller squad than most other provinces.



  • @Bovidae no specialist locks...halfback depth is non existant and ALB and DMac will only play a game or two. I can see this team struggling this year.


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