New Zealand under 20



  • With the junior rwc only a couple of months away I was wondering when the squads get named and who is likely to be the standout players
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  • Normally isn't announced till some time around May, I think.
    When I get home I might post up a possible team if I remember



  • I assume the team will be selected from the players in this article:
     
    Search begins for 2016’s NZ Under 20
     
    The article says there will be camps in March and April, and that the team will play in an Oceania tournament in Australia, before the JWC in Manchester.



  • I'm led to understand teams are named on Thursdays.



  • I assume the team will be selected from the players in this article:
     
    Search begins for 2016’s NZ Under 20
     
    The article says there will be camps in March and April, and that the team will play in an Oceania tournament in Australia, before the JWC in Manchester.

    Only four from Auckland out of the 50 attending and 14 who couldn't make it? Wow.



  • Only four from Auckland out of the 50 attending and 14 who couldn't make it? Wow.

    Canty and Waikato were the dominant U19 teams but Auckland seems really under-represented.  Let's wait until the squads for March/April are named to get a better idea of the spread of talent.  Isaia Walker-Leawere (Poverty Bay) stands out for me as he isn't from a major province - yet.



  • Isaia Walker-Leawere (Poverty Bay) stands out for me as he isn't from a major province - yet.

    You are partially right Bovidae. He can no longer be classified as a representative of Poverty Bay so that bit is not correct. He has signed for Wellington but, in all reality, they do not qualify to be included be classified as a major province given their feeble performances over the last two seasons Thus the second bit is quite correct!!!!!
     
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/75264735/early-christmas-present-for-wellington-clubs-as-hurricanes-allocate-nonlocal-players



  • You are partially right Bovidae. He can no longer be classified as a representative of Poverty Bay so that bit is not correct. He has signed for Wellington but, in all reality, they do not qualify to be included be classified as a major province given their feeble performances over the last two seasons Thus the second bit is quite correct!!!!!
     
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/75264735/early-christmas-present-for-wellington-clubs-as-hurricanes-allocate-nonlocal-players

    Bit off topic, but responding to that article: do players from outside Wellington, who are allocated to Wellington clubs, actually ever play for those clubs? I vaguely remember reading somewhere that WTG players from the Bay usually play for their club back home, not their allocated Wellington club.



  • Pretty sure all players holding a HBRFU contract have a clause in it that says they must play there club rugby up in the Bay. Having said that Zac Guildford did turn out a couple of times for a team in Chch and think Richard Buckman also donned the colours of a Dunedin team at some stage.
     
    My club down here has had a HB player allocated to it these last two seasons and we have seen neither hide nor hare of him in all that time. Prior to that we also had a guy that played his ITM Cup for Tasman with the same result. It's fair enough I suppose considering that the HBRFU are paying a reasonable whack of their yearly income so naturally they want to see their clubs get the benefit from it. 
     
    I think the trick is to apply for the allocation of a player that is unlikely to make the Hurricanes starting 23 or even the "turn up in case of a late warm up injury" player that is from a province that is too far and costly to travel away to club fixtures.
     
    Some clubs get allocated players that are always going to be in the matchday 23 and right from the start were never going to play any club games which is a shame for them. One would hope that these players might sometimes front up on a Saturday morning so the kids from that club can see him  watching their games at 9.00am and shake their hands when presenting the Player of the Day ribbons- an excellent PR exercise  - but I doubt that it would happen too much.
     
    However getting back to your original question there are occasional appearances by squad members but not that often. Willis Halaholo turned out a couple of times for Poneke last season but that is the exception rather than the rule. Ditto Iopo Iopu Aso for Ories (but he was almost permanently injured) and maybe Vince Aso might have turned out for Petone once or twice as well. Think Ben May might also have fronted up for OBU against my Club at one time but if he did you would never have picked him to be a Super player if you did not know before hand.  Speaking of Ben May I see he fronted in the hiding handed out by the Western Force on Wednesday. Not sure why as don't think he holds a Super Contract of any kind and cannot recall him fronting for the Wellington Lions last season either.



  • Pretty sure all players holding a HBRFU contract have a clause in it that says they must play there club rugby up in the Bay. Having said that Zac Guildford did turn out a couple of times for a team in Chch and think Richard Buckman also donned the colours of a Dunedin team at some stage.
     
    My club down here has had a HB player allocated to it these last two seasons and we have seen neither hide nor hare of him in all that time. Prior to that we also had a guy that played his ITM Cup for Tasman with the same result. It's fair enough I suppose considering that the HBRFU are paying a reasonable whack of their yearly income so naturally they want to see their clubs get the benefit from it. 
     
    I think the trick is to apply for the allocation of a player that is unlikely to make the Hurricanes starting 23 or even the "turn up in case of a late warm up injury" player that is from a province that is too far and costly to travel away to club fixtures.
     
    Some clubs get allocated players that are always going to be in the matchday 23 and right from the start were never going to play any club games which is a shame for them. One would hope that these players might sometimes front up on a Saturday morning so the kids from that club can see him  watching their games at 9.00am and shake their hands when presenting the Player of the Day ribbons- an excellent PR exercise  - but I doubt that it would happen too much.
     
    However getting back to your original question there are occasional appearances by squad members but not that often. Willis Halaholo turned out a couple of times for Poneke last season but that is the exception rather than the rule. Ditto Iopo Iopu Aso for Ories (but he was almost permanently injured) and maybe Vince Aso might have turned out for Petone once or twice as well. Think Ben May might also have fronted up for OBU against my Club at one time but if he did you would never have picked him to be a Super player if you did not know before hand.  Speaking of Ben May I see he fronted in the hiding handed out by the Western Force on Wednesday. Not sure why as don't think he holds a Super Contract of any kind and cannot recall him fronting for the Wellington Lions last season either.

    Interesting to read that Bay players have that clause in their contract. I think it makes perfectly sense for WTG and other fringe Super Rugby players from outside the Auckland, Waikato, Wellington, Canterbury and Otago regions to play their club rugby in their home/NPC province. Probably Guildford could be required to play for a local Chch club in 2014, because he had signed a contract with Clermont and was using an out clause in his HBRU contract, but I'm just guessing.
     
    Unless this document is wrong, Ben May has a full contract with the Hurricanes. It's strange he's not on the Canes website though. A quick look at the Canes and Lions Facebook feed, tells me he played for the Canes at least twice last year (from the bench); made his Lions debut v Taranaki, started for them at least once and was named on the bench at least twice.



  • Canty and Waikato were the dominant U19 teams but Auckland seems really under-represented.  Let's wait until the squads for March/April are named to get a better idea of the spread of talent.  Isaia Walker-Leawere (Poverty Bay) stands out for me as he isn't from a major province - yet.

    In the list so far, the talent is pretty evenly spread. Waikato and Canterbury have a fair bit of names in there, but most of those players were poached from elsewhere.
     
    Waikato have definitely stepped it up in the recruiting department lately(even at ITM Cup level too). 9 of the 15 Waikato names in there were picked up from elsewhere.
     
    Canterbury have 8 names in there, but 6 of them are from elsewhere(this was similar to last year too).



  • These are the names I'd be picking, though the team will probably be considerably different, especially as most of this is from match reports of various games, rather than having seen these players play.
     
    Prop
    Mason Kean - can play anywhere in the front row
    Alex Fidow - a huge prop who got the golden boot for NZ Secondary schools
    Joe Apikotoa - moved to league briefly before representing Wellington last year. Good ball runner.
    Ayden Johnstone - Not sure about these two. I don't know too much about these players.
    Jonah Aoina
     
    Hooker
    Leni Apisai - Hurricanes player - his ball running was very good in the ITM Cup (as was his defensive work).
    Asafo Aumua - impressed for NZ Secondary Schools last year.
     
    Lock
    Hamish Dalzell - the balding fella that played last year. Will probably get picked, though everyone thought he was useless.
    Sam Ulufonua - A big, 120kg lock. Made the Auckland training squad early last year. Hopefully follows in the footsteps of Tuipulotu rather than Fatialofa.
    Isaia Walker-Leawere - played for Poverty Bay in the Heartland competition. Should still be eligible next year, too.
    Paripari Parkinson - signed for Tasman for this year's ITM Cup
     
    Loose forwards
    Hugh Renton - Hurricanes player, though really needs to impress
    Mitchell Jacobson - Has played in the last two U20 tournaments
    Hapakuki Moala-Liava'a - Played in the ITM Cup - very good ball runner
    Charlie Gamble - Canterbury openside. Won MVP in the U19 tournament  last year (Karpik was the previous winner)
     
    Halfback
    Sam Nock - Blues player
    Liam Howley - trained with the Highlanders, played alright for Southland (there are several other decent options here)
     
    First-Five
    TJ Va'a - Hurricanes player
    Ere Enari - a halfback, though it is my understanding Canterbury are training him into a first-five, though I hear he needs to work on his game management. Scott Robertson is coach, and he might be keen to test him out here (also offers a bit of versatility). Can play in 2017, too.
    Orbyn Leger/Jonathan Taumateine - Both from Counties. Leger is eligible next year. Taumateine can play halfback, and has played for Counties 7s.
     
    Midfield
    Thomas Umaga-Jensen - huge, skillful player, huge potential
    Peter Umaga-Jensen - huge, skillful player, huge potential
    Sio Tomkinson - Golden boot in 2014 secondary schools, from memory
    Jonah Lowe - Perhaps didn't perform as well as he would have liked in the ITM Cup for Hawkes Bay, but is the most prominent name left. This spot could be up for grabs.
     
     
    Outside backs
    Jordan Trainor - Blues player, impressed in his few ITM Cup games
    Shaun Stevenson - Chiefs player, had a promising first ITM Cup season
    Mason Emerson - played for Hawkes Bay and did ok
    Malo Tuitama - played a preseason game for the Hurricanes



  • Good writeup, Bobily.
     
    Three of those guys made last year's team - Apisai just the Oceania tournament, Dalzell and Jacobsen both the Oceania and World tournments.
     
    Jonah Lowe is midfield more than wing.
     
    Who are the fullback contenders?



  • Cheers, I've edited the post.
     
    I should have used the label 'Outside backs', rather than wings. Stevenson and Trainor can both play fullback. I think one of the Umaga-Jensen brothers has also played a bit of fullback.



  • Jordan Trainor, Shaun Stevenson, Peter Umaga-Jensen and Shelford Murray would be the contenders for fullback, but I think the first two would be front runners for the position.



  • Finn Hoeata(Jarrad Hoeata's brother) would have a good shot of making the team. He was a bit under the radar through school because he went to Dilworth(a 1B school at the time he was there), but when he played for the Blues U18s and NZ Barbarians, he really impressed. Was probably a little unlucky not to make NZ Schools.
     
    I'm thinking there is a lack of punch in the backrow. Moala-Liavaa is a decent ball carrier, but not a dominant one. Maybe Razor could add Lona Halaholo to the team to take care of that role. A player who can punish players with and without the ball. I think Halaholo has signed for Canterbury, so maybe Razor might have him as a late inclusion?
     
    I really like Jonathan Taumateine as a halfback more so than a 10. I think he is so naturally talented, that if he puts it all together, he could really go far. He can also cover a bit of fullback as well.



  • Agreed, Finn Hoeata was impressive for the NZ Barbarians (from the first half anyway - I never got around to watching the rest). I guess he would also add a bit of height to the backrow, as well as potentially being able to fill in at lock.
     
    Given some of the other powerful ball carriers in the team, I'm not sure the lack of punch in the backrow will be a problem. I'm sure the likes of Fidow, Apisai, Apikotoa and Ulufonua should be able to get the ball going forward. The Umaga-Jensen twins will also be capable of gaining some decent ground further out. However, another option could be Mikaele-Tu'u.
     
    The problem that Taumateine might face is that we aren't short of halfback options. Besides Nock and Howley, Levien played last year and may return, and I've heard good things about Milo-Harris. However, he could be there ahead of Enari as a first-five/halfback cover. I don't know too much about the other first-five options, but they should be alright if they are there ahead of Faiane and McKay.



  • These are the names I'd be picking, though the team will probably be considerably different, especially as most of this is from match reports of various games, rather than having seen these players play.
     
    Prop
    Mason Kean - can play anywhere in the front row
    Alex Fidow - a huge prop who got the golden boot for NZ Secondary schools
    Joe Apikotoa - moved to league briefly before representing Wellington last year. Good ball runner.Ayden Johnstone - Not sure about these two. I don't know too much about these players.

    I've seen plenty of Johnstone as he was the captain of Ham BHS.  He's a very mobile prop and a decent scrummager.
     
    A couple of other names you didn't mention. 
     
    Jahrome Brown - he was also one of the stars of the champion HBHS 1st XV.  Brown reminded me of a young Jerry Collins when I watched him play, an abrasive ball-runner and hard tackling 6/8.
    Luke Jacobson - Mitchell's younger brother and considered by many to be the best of the 3 Jacobson brothers.  They all play for Hautapu and formed their entire loose forward trio in a few games last year.



  • What about dalton papali'i? Rated very highly
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  • Likely Starting XV:

    1. Joe Apikatoa (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    2. Leni Apisai - (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    3. Alex Fidow - (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    4. Isaia Walker-Leawere (Wellington)
    5. Sam Ulufonua - (Auckland)6. Mitchell Jacobson - (Waikato)
    6. Charlie Gamble - (Canterbury)
    7. Hugh Renton (Hurricanes/Hawkes Bay)
    8. Sam Nock (Blues/Northland)
    9. TJ Va'a - (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    10. Jonah Lowe (Hawkes Bay)
    11. Thomas Umaga Jensen (Hurricanes/Highlanders/Otago)
    12. Peter Umaga Jensen (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    13. Malo Tuitama (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    14. Shaun Stevenson (Chiefs/Waikato)


  • Likely Starting XV:

    1. Joe Apikatoa (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    2. Leni Apisai - (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    3. Alex Fidow - (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    4. Isaia Walker-Leawere (Wellington)
    5. Sam Ulufonua - (Auckland)
    6. Mitchell Jacobson - (Waikato)
    7. Charlie Gamble - (Canterbury)
    8. Hugh Renton (Hurricanes/Hawkes Bay)
    9. Sam Nock (Blues/Northland)
    10. TJ Va'a - (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    11. Jonah Lowe (Hawkes Bay)
    12. Thomas Umaga Jensen (Hurricanes/Highlanders/Otago)
    13. Peter Umaga Jensen (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    14. Malo Tuitama (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    15. Shaun Stevenson (Chiefs/Waikato)

    I suspect if you're going to pick a wing from HB you'd take Emerson over Lowe, he seems to be higher ranked as a wing (Lowe seen as a midfielder).



  • If you had to put money on it, name the guys that will play for the AB's.



  • Interesting to read that Bay players have that clause in their contract. I think it makes perfectly sense for WTG and other fringe Super Rugby players from outside the Auckland, Waikato, Wellington, Canterbury and Otago regions to play their club rugby in their home/NPC province. Probably Guildford could be required to play for a local Chch club in 2014, because he had signed a contract with Clermont and was using an out clause in his HBRU contract, but I'm just guessing.
     
    Unless this document is wrong, Ben May has a full contract with the Hurricanes. It's strange he's not on the Canes website though. A quick look at the Canes and Lions Facebook feed, tells me he played for the Canes at least twice last year (from the bench); made his Lions debut v Taranaki, started for them at least once and was named on the bench at least twice.

    Not sure how up to date/accurate the link you include above is but it completely excludes Waikato prop Loni Uhilia who I know is part of the set up. Looking at the link it look like there might be a bit of a struggle come time to pick locks for the match day 23s considering two of the four on full contracts simply never play.



  • If you had to put money on it, name the guys that will play for the AB's.

    Peter and Thomas Umaga Jensen, Alex Fidow and Leni Apisai sure to be All Blacks in the future.



  • If you had to put money on it, name the guys that will play for the AB's.

    TBH, you can't always pick them - Robbie Robinson was fluffed on here as the big star of the future and he didn't kick on.



  • I've seen plenty of Johnstone as he was the captain of Ham BHS.  He's a very mobile prop and a decent scrummager.
     
    A couple of other names you didn't mention. 
     
    Jahrome Brown - he was also one of the stars of the champion HBHS 1st XV.  Brown reminded me of a young Jerry Collins when I watched him play, an abrasive ball-runner and hard tackling 6/8.
    Luke Jacobson - Mitchell's younger brother and considered by many to be the best of the 3 Jacobson brothers.  They all play for Hautapu and formed their entire loose forward trio in a few games last year.

    Yea, I'm sure there are a few I haven't mentioned. I largely mention the players I know a bit about, so I don't really know too much about the younger Jacoson or Brown. Thanks for the info, though. So Jacobson should still be eligible for next year's team, too?



  • TBH, you can't always pick them - Robbie Robinson was fluffed on here as the big star of the future and he didn't kick on.

    Yep, and a lot of those predictions were even after he played in the U20s.



  • Likely Starting XV:

    1. Joe Apikatoa (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    2. Leni Apisai - (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    3. Alex Fidow - (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    4. Isaia Walker-Leawere (Wellington)
    5. Sam Ulufonua - (Auckland)
    6. Mitchell Jacobson - (Waikato)
    7. Charlie Gamble - (Canterbury)
    8. Hugh Renton (Hurricanes/Hawkes Bay)
    9. Sam Nock (Blues/Northland)
    10. TJ Va'a - (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    11. Jonah Lowe (Hawkes Bay)
    12. Thomas Umaga Jensen (Hurricanes/Highlanders/Otago)
    13. Peter Umaga Jensen (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    14. Malo Tuitama (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    15. Shaun Stevenson (Chiefs/Waikato)

    I like that team, but I think that Moala-Liava'a should be starting in the loose forwards. I'm not sure who he would replace, though. I'm thinking possibly Jacobson.
     
    Additionally, I think Sio Tomkinson (who is in the Highlanders WTG) is likely to start ahead of Thomas Umaga-Jensen. Though Umaga-Jensen could move to one wing. Also you forget Jordan Trainor, who could play on the other wing.
     
    Does Apikotoa actually play loosehead, does anyone know? I think I've just seen him play tighthead. If he can play loosehead, Wellington are going to have one great front row in a few years time.



  • No real speedster in that team though is there ?
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  • If you want some pace, I guess you'd go with Emerson on the wing with Thomas Umaga-Jensen on the bench.



  • Yea, I'm sure there are a few I haven't mentioned. I largely mention the players I know a bit about, so I don't really know too much about the younger Jacoson or Brown. Thanks for the info, though. So Jacobson should still be eligible for next year's team, too?

    A quick check shows Mitchell turned 20 last month so I assume Luke is 18 or 19.  The interesting thing about them is all three brothers have made at least the NZ Schools team from Cambridge HS, which is not one of the traditional rugby schools in the Waikato.  I think this is a good thing.



  • Peter and Thomas Umaga Jensen, Alex Fidow and Leni Apisai sure to be All Blacks in the future.

    I've only seen Fidow play a couple of times Premier 1 Schools rugby and remain to be convinced as to his propping ability.



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  • Shaun Stevenson ! He was just 18 when he made his debut in the ITM Cup and showed plenty of promise. He just needs to add a few kilograms of muscle and an once of composure. He's all class.



  • Agreed, Finn Hoeata was impressive for the NZ Barbarians (from the first half anyway - I never got around to watching the rest). I guess he would also add a bit of height to the backrow, as well as potentially being able to fill in at lock.
     
    Given some of the other powerful ball carriers in the team, I'm not sure the lack of punch in the backrow will be a problem. I'm sure the likes of Fidow, Apisai, Apikotoa and Ulufonua should be able to get the ball going forward. The Umaga-Jensen twins will also be capable of gaining some decent ground further out. However, another option could be Mikaele-Tu'u.
     
    The problem that Taumateine might face is that we aren't short of halfback options. Besides Nock and Howley, Levien played last year and may return, and I've heard good things about Milo-Harris. However, he could be there ahead of Enari as a first-five/halfback cover. I don't know too much about the other first-five options, but they should be alright if they are there ahead of Faiane and McKay.

    Finn would be a lock first before a backrower. I'm not sure how big he is now, but he was almost 2m back in school and quite lanky. Last time I saw him was on Grassroots Rugby, but I could barely make him out because it was raining and everyone was covered in mud.
     
    You're probably right about powerful ball carriers in other positions. This team should have more dynamism in the tight 5 than previous U20 teams.
     
    Halfback definitely has competition. Didn't they only take 2 halfbacks last year? So if they take 2 again, someone decent misses out.



  • Finn would be a lock first before a backrower. I'm not sure how big he is now, but he was almost 2m back in school and quite lanky. Last time I saw him was on Grassroots Rugby, but I could barely make him out because it was raining and everyone was covered in mud.
     
    You're probably right about powerful ball carriers in other positions. This team should have more dynamism in the tight 5 than previous U20 teams.
     
    Halfback definitely has competition. Didn't they only take 2 halfbacks last year? So if they take 2 again, someone decent misses out.

    I was going off his game for the NZ Barbarians schools team in which he played blindside. Either way, he'd be handy to have in the team due to his versatility. I'm pretty sure only 28 or so players (or maybe even 26?) are allowed in the squad.
     
    And yea, only two halfbacks last year. That is where guys like Taumateine and Enari may come in, with their ability to cover first-five, too. With Nock, Howley, Levien and Milo-Harris (who I've heard good things about), even if Taumateine were only considered for first-five (even if they aren't best there), there is still so much competiton.



  • NZU20s trial camp this weekend
     
    Selected players:
     
    Forwards
    Jonah Aoina - Otago
    Ayden Johnstone - Waikato
    Mason Kean - Hawke’s Bay
    Shaun Stoddart - Otago
    Sean Paranihi - Canterbury
    Joe Apikotoa - Wellington
    Alex Fidow - Wellington
    Sosefo Kautai - Waikato
    Sekope Lopeti - Waikato
    Asafo Aumua - Wellington
    Max Fryatt - Hawke's Bay
    Romero Tagi - Auckland
    Hamish Dalzell - Canterbury
    Quinten Strange - Tasman
    Manaaki Selby-Rickit - Manawatu
    Sam Caird - Waikato
    Isaia Walker-Leawere - Wellington
    Paripari Parkinson - Tasman
    Lui Luamanu - Wellington
    Finn Hoeata - Taranaki
    Charlie Gamble - Canterbury
    Mitchell Jacobson - Waikato
    Luke Jacobson - Waikato
    Dalton Papali’i - Auckland
    Nathan Tweedy - Manawatu
    Hapakuki Moala-Liava'a - North Harbour
    Marino Mikaele Tu'u - Hawke’s Bay
    Martin Brink - North HarbourBacks
    Liam Howley - Southland
    Logan Crowley - Canterbury
    Jonathan Taumateine - Counties Manukau
    Brett Cameron - Canterbury
    Matthew Lansdown - Waikato
    TJ Va’a - Wellington
    Stephen Perofeta - Taranaki
    Orbyn Leger - Counties- Manukau
    Alex Nankivell - Tasman
    Jordie Barrett - Canterbury
    Lester Maulolo - Wellington
    Amanaki Savieti - Waikato    
    Pepe Patafilo - Wellington
    Gene Te Amo - Counties Manukau
    Jonah Lowe - Hawke’s Bay    
    Shelford Murray - Waikato
    Mason Emerson - Hawke’s Bay
    Jordan Trainor - Waikato
    Caleb Makene - Canterbury
    Peter Umaga-Jensen - Wellington
    Josh McKay - CanterburyNot considered due to Investec Super Rugby commitments:
    Leni Apisai, Wellington
    Sio Tomkinson, Otago
    Shaun Stevenson, Waikato
    Sam Nock, NorthlandPlayers not considered due to injury:
    Hayden Spencer, Waikato
    Hugh Renton, Hawke’s Bay
    Ere Enari, Canterbury
    Sam Ulufonua, Auckland
    Harrison Levien, Waikato
    Lisati Milo-Harris, Auckland
    Malo Tuitama, Wellington
    Jahrome Brown, Waikato
     
    http://www.allblacks.com/News/28883/new-zealand-under-20-hopefuls-in-trial-camp



  • For fun, here's a provincial breakdown:
    Waikato 10 (4 not available)
    Wellington 9 (2 not available)
    Canterbury 8 (1 not available)
    Hawke's Bay 4 (1 not available)
    Counties 3
    Tasman 3
    Auckland 2 (2 not available)
    Otago 2 (1 not available)
    Manawatu 2
    North Harbour 2
    Taranaki 2
    Southland 1
    Northland 0 (1 not available)
     
    What happened to Thomas Umaga-Jensen?



  • I hear Isaia Walker-Leawere is a big lad.
     
    His old man wasn't the biggest but he made up for it in ticker. If the kid has half the heart he will go a long way!



  • For fun, here's a provincial breakdown:
    Waikato 10 (4 not available)
    Wellington 9 (2 not available)
    Canterbury 8 (1 not available)
    Hawke's Bay 4 (1 not available)
    Counties 3
    Tasman 3
    Auckland 2 (2 not available)
    Otago 2 (1 not available)
    Manawatu 2
    North Harbour 2
    Taranaki 2
    Southland 1
    Northland 0 (1 not available)
    What happened to Thomas Umaga-Jensen? I was wondering the same thing
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