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    Mr Fish
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    Presume Tumua Manu is having off-season surgery? Didn't watch the weekend's Top 14 games but he was named in the TOTW so assume he didn't leave the field with an injury.

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    ARHS
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    Just Alaalatoa McFarland and Paiaaua as lock-ins at this level.
    Very disappointing squad indeed. But I note they got Lamositele to swap over to them.

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    @ARHS said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    Just Alaalatoa McFarland and Paiaaua as lock-ins at this level.
    Very disappointing squad indeed. But I note they got Lamositele to swap over to them.

    Don't think it's that disappointing. You're never gonna get the best squads inbetween world cups, so these are the times to expand your talent pool for the Island sides.

    Good opportunity for some of the newer players to stake their claim.

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    Mr Fish
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    @African-Monkey said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    @ARHS said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    Just Alaalatoa McFarland and Paiaaua as lock-ins at this level.
    Very disappointing squad indeed. But I note they got Lamositele to swap over to them.

    Don't think it's that disappointing. You're never gonna get the best squads inbetween world cups, so these are the times to expand your talent pool for the Island sides.

    Good opportunity for some of the newer players to stake their claim.

    The World Cup only happens once every four years. I understand the difficulties facing Samoa and Tonga but if you're only assembling a proper squad every four years then something is going terrible wrong.

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    Brian Alainu'uese isn't there either.

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    @Mr-Fish said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    @African-Monkey said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    @ARHS said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    Just Alaalatoa McFarland and Paiaaua as lock-ins at this level.
    Very disappointing squad indeed. But I note they got Lamositele to swap over to them.

    Don't think it's that disappointing. You're never gonna get the best squads inbetween world cups, so these are the times to expand your talent pool for the Island sides.

    Good opportunity for some of the newer players to stake their claim.

    The World Cup only happens once every four years. I understand the difficulties facing Samoa and Tonga but if you're only assembling a proper squad every four years then something is going terrible wrong.

    Not really. Not overly phased that a bunch of 35+ year old ex ABs players aren't in the side.

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    Mr Fish
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    @African-Monkey Charlie Faumuina is the only player at the 2023 World Cup that fits into that category so not really sure what your argument is?

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    @Mr-Fish said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    @African-Monkey Charlie Faumuina is the only player at the 2023 World Cup that fits into that category so not really sure what your argument is?

    Christian Leali'ifano? And guys like Luatua, Sopoaga, Taufua, To'omaga-Allen etc. Who are older Aren't really guys we need to see in this current squad.

    Just because you haven't heard of some of the guys doesn't make it a waste of time.

    Edit: Yeah sorry, Leali'ifano is a Wallaby but point still stands.

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    There are a massive number of guys who are in the primes of their careers who haven't been named in the squad - I'm not talking about your Luatuas and Sopoagas. You're being incredibly disingenuous by implying that it's only over-the-hill/experienced players that have been omitted. The likes of Miracle Fai'alagi and Lalomilo Lalomilo (amongst a long list of others) would be massive additions to the team but are still fairly fresh to Test level and aren't suddenly going to be able to compete with the best of the best when the World Cup rolls around if they haven't cut their teeth in series like these.

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    Joel Lam has been playing Rugby League in Australia this season so it’s very interesting to see him selected. Shows there is a lack of depth in key positions

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    ARHS
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    @African-Monkey said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    @ARHS said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    Just Alaalatoa McFarland and Paiaaua as lock-ins at this level.
    Very disappointing squad indeed. But I note they got Lamositele to swap over to them.

    Don't think it's that disappointing. You're never gonna get the best squads inbetween world cups, so these are the times to expand your talent pool for the Island sides.

    Good opportunity for some of the newer players to stake their claim.

    Think you are missing the point completely. Lots of younger and stronger players just don't seem interested. Count the MP players in there. Would have thought Failagi, Alainuese, Taumateine, Toala, Patafilo, S Lam for starters.

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    @ARHS said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    @African-Monkey said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    @ARHS said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    Just Alaalatoa McFarland and Paiaaua as lock-ins at this level.
    Very disappointing squad indeed. But I note they got Lamositele to swap over to them.

    Don't think it's that disappointing. You're never gonna get the best squads inbetween world cups, so these are the times to expand your talent pool for the Island sides.

    Good opportunity for some of the newer players to stake their claim.

    Think you are missing the point completely. Lots of younger and stronger players just don't seem interested. Count the MP players in there. Would have thought Failagi, Alainuese, Taumateine, Toala, Patafilo, S Lam for starters.

    Yeah, fair, the NPC players could have been there, but they're not, so bring some new faces in and who knows, maybe we'll be talking more about those new faces in a years time to go with the guys mentioned, and they could also push for professinal contracts. It's not that big a deal.

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    I assume this is going to benefit my Pies, but I'm not really keen on players picking NPC over internationals.

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    Ex-Hurricanes winger Salesi Rayasi named in 32-man Flying Fijians squad

    Ex-Hurricanes winger Salesi Rayasi named in 32-man Flying Fijians squad

    Former Hurricanes winger Salesi Rayasi has taken another significant step towards Test honours with the Flying Fijians.

    Flying Fijians 32-man squad

    Forwards

    Eroni Mawi
    Luke Tagi
    Haereiti Hetet
    Mesake Doge
    Peni Ravai
    Tevita Ikanivere
    Samuel Matavesi
    Kavaia Tagivetaua
    Isoa Nasilasila
    Mesake Vocevoce
    Temo Mayanavanua
    Setareki Turagacoke
    Viliame Mata
    Elia Canakaivata
    Lekima Tagitagivalu
    Albert Tuisue
    Etonia Waqa
    Motikai Murray

    Backs

    Simione Kuruvoli
    Philip Baselala
    Sam Wye
    Caleb Muntz
    Isaiah Armstrong-Ravula
    Vilimoni Botitu
    Josua Tuisova
    Iosefo Balewairiki
    Sireli Maqala
    Kalaveti Ravouvou
    Ponipate Loganimasi
    Jiuta Wainiqolo
    Selestino Ravutaumada
    Salesi Rayasi

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    And Sam Wye

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    @Fredsaua12 said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    Joel Lam has been playing Rugby League in Australia this season so it’s very interesting to see him selected. Shows there is a lack of depth in key positions

    A bit like when they would pick Danny Tusitala last year after he'd been playing U85s for Ponsonby.

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    @Fredsaua12 said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    Joel Lam has been playing Rugby League in Australia this season so it’s very interesting to see him selected. Shows there is a lack of depth in key positions

    Yup. Played a cross code pre season game here, liked it and joined the league club they played. Had a handful of games for them before linking up with a team in Aus. He is now back playing club rugby in Christchurch

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    No Abraham Papali'i (Castres Olympique) is a surprise to me. He is a huge Nr.8 (194 cm, 126 kg) and has been used all year long as a human bulldozer in the Top 14.

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    Jun 18  /  Pacific

    NZ Rugby says it isn't blocking Pacific heritage players from representing island nations

    NZ Rugby says it isn't blocking Pacific heritage players from representing island nations

    The union made the comment following claims from the Flying Fijians head coach that some Super Rugby contracts include clauses requiring players to remain eligible for the All Blacks.

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