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    schmoo
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    Don't weight yourself everyday.  Once a week max.  Better at the end of the month.  Always on the same day if poss. e.g. the last friday.<br />
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    Thirst is often mistaken for hunger - so before you go and have a snack drink 250-500ml of water and see if that fixes the jobbie.<br />
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    Have sex/wank vigoriously.  Cause its fun. 😁 <br />
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    Please add any titbits of info that can help that you think of.

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    Death
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    Use a HRM to train.  It forces you to neither over nor under-train.<br />
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    Keep a training diary - I use MS excel, and graph my heart rate recovery after exercise (1, 2, 3, 4 ,5, 10, 15 mins)  You get obsessed with improving the recovery rate.<br />
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    As well as the weight, check your resting heart rate once a month.  Should be going down.<br />
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    Ignore the concept of the 'fat burning zone' - just get your heart up there and keep it there: the higher you go, the more fat you burn...  I aim for 170+ on the exercise bike.<br />
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    Pain is weakness leaving the body...

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    Parcy v2.0
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    [quote name='Death']<br />
    Pain is weakness leaving the body...<br />
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    I see you're familiar with proverbs from the Légion Etrangère...

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    Death
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    [quote]I see you're familiar with proverbs from the Légion Etrangère...[/quote]<br />
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    They were allowed to borrow it from the British Army...  <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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    No pain, no gain.<br />
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    If it ain't raining, it ain't training.<br />
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    When in doubt, empty the magazine...

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    schmoo
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    [quote name='Death']<br />
    [quote]I see you're familiar with proverbs from the Légion Etrangère...[/quote]<br />
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    They were allowed to borrow it from the British Army...  <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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    No pain, no gain.<br />
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    If it ain't raining, it ain't training.<br />
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    When in doubt, empty the magazine...<br />
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    If it doesn't fit - force it.

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    Irish Richard
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    Stobs - I would say the opposite - weigh yourself every day, at the same time (first thing in the morning).<br />
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    Also get into the habit of counting calories and 'leaving calories on the shelf', So say you aim for 2000 kcals a day. You pick up a pint of milk, 50kcal x 500ml - 250kcal. Thats more than 10% of your daily intake. Thats also a decent 15 mins on a cross trainer. Remember the pain on the last 15 mins of the cross trainer? Think about that, set the milk back on the shelf and drink a glass of water. See? Just saved yourself 15 mins of pain on the cross trainer. In 10 seconds.<br />
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    If you do get your calorific intake down to say 1500-1700 kcals per day, make sure you have one day where you eat 2500 kcals. This will jolt your metabolism and trick it out of getting slow and lazy and surviving on the 1500-1700 per day.

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    Miller V Jackson
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    [quote name='Death']<br />
    Keep a training diary - [/quote]<br />
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    Er... has the Fat Busters Forum escaped you?

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    snapperslayer
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    • Avoid carbs at night eg spuds, rice, pasta as carbs are an energy food and  unless you get a good 30mins - hour of lovin, your carbs will store in your body as fat.
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    mark_s
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    How true is this avoid eating carbs in the arvo or at night thing?<br />
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    It sounds like a good theory but I am dubious and I have checked a book by Rosmary Stanton (Aus nutrionilst) and she has poo poo'd it as well.  It seems to me that provided you do the exercise over the course of the day then it doesn't matter when you refuel.<br />
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    Anyone got any science to back it up?

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    BartMan
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    I think it goes into the 'what works for you category'.  There is probably 'science' backing both views.  So try it out and see what happens.<br />
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    I eat mainly rice n tuna for dinner between 7 and 8, and have been lsing weight - along with the hard out exercise of course.  perhaps I wouldn lose more NOT eating the rice - experiemtn time!!

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    Miller V Jackson
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    [quote name='BartMan']<br />
    I think it goes into the 'what works for you category'.  [/quote]<br />
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    Almost everything goes in this category I reckon, at least to some extent. That's why all the hard-out scientific stuff on this forum is poo-pooed by somebody to some extent, probably correctly. Although some basics are almost fundamental (exercise, eat healthy) the particulars (what exercise, what food, and in what sorts of combinations, when and how much) would appear to vary significantly between people as to what works for them. <br />
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    That isn't a bad thing of course; one of the purposes of this forum is for people to tell others what has worked for them, so we can try those ideas outselves in conjunction with the rest of our programmes, or tweak them to better fit what we think might work for us. <br />
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    snapperslayer
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    Just thought i would paste some reading on the carbs at night debate. - (its off the web - it must be true)<br />
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    [b]I believe carbs are best eaten in the morning (to replenish depleted liver and muscle glycogen stores after a night of sleep), before workouts (to supply fuel for energy) and after your workout (to refuel muscle and liver glycogen and to spike insulin levels for stimulating muscle growth). [b]For fat loss[/b], we typically recommend [b]avoiding carbs later at night[/b]; if you did a good job of replenishing your muscle and liver glycogen throughout the day, then any [b]excess carbs at [/b] [b]night[/b]--a time when you're least active--[b]will be readily converted to fat.[/b][/b]<br />
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    I have eaten carbs (lots of carbs) at night during a rugby season without putting on any fat as I was working hard enough to burn it off; but I think someone who has been inactive (sedentary) will benifit from avoiding carbs at night.

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    TM
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    Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but the mental component is pretty crucial for any goal such as weight-loss.<br />
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    Something to keep you focussed on your goal when the chips are down, you've had a bad day and those donuts look sublime.<br />
    Everyone knows about Hadlee's key-words of "Lillee - Hate - Rhythm - Off stump" to help keep his focus and 431 wickets later, you'd have to say it was pretty successful  :nta

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    Miller V Jackson
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    I found myself jogging this evening with the tune Nearer My God to Thee in my head, which in the circumstances was not inappropriate.

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    Irish Richard
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    If I work out at night, then eat no carbs (going to bed hungry), even if I have my usual breakfast - when I try to work out again in the morning I am farked.<br />
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    So what works for you. <br />
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    But carbs are just fuel. No point filling the tank and parking the motor in the garage.

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    schmoo
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    From what I've heard/been told - carbs don't kick in straight away anyhow.  They take time to be absorbed then transformed into potential energy.  As opposed to sucrose/dextrose/maltrose/glucose (all of those me thinks) which are instant return energy - this being the dangerous sort of energy to store if not exercising.<br />
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    I'm with you IR - I need my carbs (at least some) at night to absorb so the next day I can charge thru my exercise the next day.

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    Don't weigh yourself.<br />
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    Measure yourself. With a tape measure. The one your wife uses for knitting.<br />
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    If you're exercising, you should be gaining muscle. It weighs more than fat. 3 times more I think.

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    dogmeat
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    [quote]Don't weigh yourself.<br />
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    Measure yourself. With a tape measure. The one your wife uses for knitting.<br />
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    Great. Now I'm suicidal. Also a confirmed blob.  Chest, gut and arse all exactly the same circumference.  Think I'd have been better off claiming air miles than using a tape measure. Jeezuz I'm a fat fuck.

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    [quote name='dogmeat']<br />
    [quote]Don't weigh yourself.<br />
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    Measure yourself. With a tape measure. The one your wife uses for knitting.<br />
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    Great. Now I'm suicidal. Also a confirmed blob.  Chest, gut and arse all exactly the same circumference.  Think I'd have been better off claiming air miles than using a tape measure. Jeezuz I'm a fat fuck.<br />
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    If it took a tape measure to show you that, you have serious eyesight problems or a dicky mirror. <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

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    Coastie
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    [quote name='Ruddy Funkster']<br />
    [quote name='dogmeat']<br />
    [quote]Don't weigh yourself.<br />
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    Measure yourself. With a tape measure. The one your wife uses for knitting.<br />
    [/quote]<br />
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    Great. Now I'm suicidal. Also a confirmed blob.  Chest, gut and arse all exactly the same circumference.  Think I'd have been better off claiming air miles than using a tape measure. Jeezuz I'm a fat fuck.<br />
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    If it took a tape measure to show you that, you have serious eyesight problems or a dicky mirror. <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
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    Yeah but the camera always adds 10lbs doesn't it, so looking at yourself on video (Pornstar) or in photos just makes you look fat and depresses you. The mirror is an optical illusion - the camera never lies  :coolsmiley:

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