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    It was interesting to see a whole delegation from the Wellington Lions in the stands, among them, Cory Jane. Spying haha?
    I can confirm that Shane Christie was part of the Ta$man coaching staff present at the game.

    From the Super Rugby Magpies, I did see Gareth Evans. There may have been more of them though, sitting at the reserves bench maybe (too far away for me to see).

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    Video (50 minutes) of the HB Saracens v Ta$man XV game from last week.

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    Second pre-season game:

    Wairarapa Bush v Hawke's Bay Saracens
    Monday, 4 June (Queen's Birthday), kick-off 2pm at Featherston Rugby Club

    Squad according to the HBT:

    Forwards: Mark Braidwood, Jason Long, Joe Apikotoa, Aleki Vuki, Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Sam Ulufonua, Tom Parsons, Lui Luamanu, Matt Gardner, Fa'alemiga Selesele, Lucas Goodin, Chris Johnston, Ricky Hayes, Nathan Tweedy, Hannon Brighouse, Ben Hamelink, Jack Nelson-Murray, Kianu Kereru-Symes, Frank Tupuola.

    Backs: Ellery Wilson, Folau Fakatava, Zac Donaldson, Tianua Poto, Lincoln McClutchie, Sasa Tofilau, Sebastian Visinia, Timo Vaiusu, Shae Tucker, Johnny Ika, Pasqualle Dunn, Mason Emerson, Danny Toala, Willie McGoon, Michael Buckley, JJ Taulagi, Mitch Drew, Hayden Hann.

    Injured: Lester Maulolo, Tim Farrell, Jacob Devery, Tamati Samuels, Ryan Tongia, Trent Boswell-Wakefield, Josh Kaifa.

    Unavailable: Devan Flanders, Will Tremain (both at Under 20 World Championship).

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    Slightly corrected Hawke's Bay Saracens squad for Monday's preseason game v Wairarapa Bush:

    1 Jason Long, 2 Jacob Devery, 3 Joe Apikotoa, 4 Tom Parsons, 5 Matt Gardner, 6 Lui Luamanu, 7 Richy Hayes, 8 Hannon Brighouse, 9 Ellery Wilson, 10 Lincoln McClutchie, 11 Mason Emerson, 12 Pasqualle Dunn, 13 Sasa Tofilau, 14 Ryan Tongia, 15 Danny Toala

    Reserves: 16 Kianu Kereru-Symes, 17 Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe, 18 Pouri Rakete-Stones, 19 Chris Johnston, 20 Ben Hamelink, 21 Sam Ulufonua, 22 Folau Fakatava, 23 Tianua Poto, 24 Shae Tucker, 25 Hayden Hann, 26 Michael Buckley, 27 Mitch Drew

    And according to the HBT:

    Injured: Trent Boswell-Wakefield, Tim Farrell, Lester Maulolo, Tamati Samuels, Fa'alemiga Selesele, Josh Kaifa, JJ Taulagi, Mark Braidwood, Lucas Goodin, Aleki Vuki.

    Unavailable: Devan Flanders, Will Tremain (both with NZ 20s), Johnny Ika (Tonga A), Will McGoon (Away).

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    Half time in Featherston: HB Saracens 19 - 7 Wairarapa Bush

    HB tries: Ricky Hayes, Pasquale Dunn and Joe Apikatoa; conversion 2x Lincoln McClutchie.

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    Full time: Hawke's Bay Saracens 57 - 14 Wairarapa Bush

    Tries: Ricky Hayes, Pasquelle Dunn, Joe Apikatoa, Hayden Hann, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Michael Buckley, Folou Fakatava, Josiah Tevita-Metcalfe 2x

    Conversions: Lincoln McClutchie 4 and Tianua Poto 2.

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    That scoreline has got to be a bit worrisome considering Horowhenua did the Bush by about forty in a curtainraiser to one of the Hurricanes games a couple of weeks ago.

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    It was raining pretty heavy so that could have affect to the score line

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    More than 52 minutes long video of the preseason game between Hawke's Bay Saracens and Wairarapa Bush:

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    Highlights only:

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    Next preseason game:

    July 4 – Manawatu Evergreens v Hawke’s Bay Saracens, Sport and Rugby Institute, Palmerston North, kick-off 6pm

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    Was advised today there is an expectation Geoff Cridge ought to be available for Magpies in September.

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    @number-10 That would be awesome! He's been extremely unlucky with injuries, but I think he could become a very good lock. I hope a good season for us will give him an opportunity to get another SR contract. I'm afraid the Canes will dump him like they've done with Renton though.

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    Magpies prop Pouri Rakete-Stones is included in the Hurricanes team to play the Chiefs in a friendly at Hawera tomorrow.

    15 Chase Tiatia
    14 Julian Savea
    13 Wes Goosen
    12 Peter Umaga-Jensen
    11 Jonah Lowe
    10 Jackson Garden-Bachop
    9 Finlay Christie
    8 Gareth Evans
    7 Sam Henwood
    6 Reed Prinsep (c)
    5 Sam Lousi
    4 James Blackwell
    3 Marcel Renata
    2 James O'Reilly
    1 Fraser Armstrong

    Reserves

    16 Nathan Vella
    17 Chris Eves
    18 Pouri Rakete-Stones
    19 Michael Fatialofa
    20 Isaia Walker-Leawere
    21 Murray Douglas
    22 Du'Plessis Kirifi
    23 Jamie Booth
    24 Ihaia West
    25 Ben Lam

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    @number-10 Yeah, I noticed that. He seems to be replacing Ben May (assuming Renata replaces JTA). I wonder whether Ben is injured? It looks like PR-S is now no. 4 in the TH pecking order at the Canes. Has May re-signed yet? If my notes are correct, his Canes' contract expires after this SR season (his Magpies contract, too, after this season). He's 35 years old. It would be awesome if PR-S could score a Canes contract if he has a good M10 Cup season. Btw, Eves is 30 and Toby Smith 29. The Canes propping stocks could use some rejuvenation.

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    Tomorrow, the Hawke's Bay Saracens will play their third preseason game. Opponents this time are the Manawatu Evergreens, for whom it's the first preseason game. Venue: Sports & Rugby Institute, Palmerston North. K/o 6.00pm.

    Anyone going?

    This is the Saracens line-up:

    1 Jason Long (vc)(HRS)
    2 Jacob Devery (HRS)
    3 Joe Apikotoa (Taradale)
    4 Tom Parsons (c) (CHB)
    5 Lui Luamanu (Taradale)
    6 Hannon Brighouse (NOBM)
    7 Chris Johnston (NOBM)
    8 Solomone Funaki (MAC)
    9 Folau Fakatava (HRS)
    10 Lincoln McClutchie (Tamatea)
    11 Sebastian Visinia (Tech)
    12 Sasa Tofilau (Clive)
    13 Shae Tucker (NOBM)
    14 Mitch Drew (NOBM)
    15 JJ Taulagi (Clive)

    Reserves
    16 Ben Power (Havelock N), 17 Pouri Rakete-Stones (Pirates), 18 Mark Braidwood (Tech), 19 Sam Ulufonua (Havelock N), 20 Ricky Hayes (NOBM), 21 Tyler Symon-Burke (NOBM), 22 Will Tremain (NOBM), 23 Ellery Wilson (NOBM), 24 Tianua Poto (Clive), 25 Pasqualle Dunn (CHB), 26 Lewis Marshall (CHB), 27 Danny Toala (HRS)

    I've posted the Manawatu line-up in the Mitre 10 Cup thread.

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    Ten of those 27 have arrived in the province this year - including returnees Tom Parsons and Lewis Marshall.

    Ben Power has just arrived in.

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    @number-10 Do you know, have those who have come in from other provinces (returnees excluded) all been invited to come here and try for a Magpies spot, or have some come uninvited, just to try their luck? I understand from the HBT that Power was the 5th-ranked hooker in Wellington. It looks like we're a prime destination for other provinces' rejects or 3rd stringers.

    Is this correct?

    Joe Apikotoa - Wellington
    Tom Parsons - Manawatu returnee
    Lui Luamanu - Wellington
    Solomone Funaki - BoP
    Visinia - Auckland
    Tofilau - Auckland
    Taulagi - Sunwolves
    Ben Power - Wellington
    Ulufonua - Auckland
    Dunn - Auckland (arrived last year)
    Marshall - Manawatu returnee

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12081880

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    @stargazer said in Magpies - 2018 Mitre 10 Cup:

    @number-10 Do you know, have those who have come in from other provinces (returnees excluded) all been invited to come here and try for a Magpies spot, or have some come uninvited, just to try their luck? I understand from the HBT that Power was the 5th-ranked hooker in Wellington. It looks like we're a prime destination for other provinces' rejects or 3rd stringers.

    Is this correct?

    Joe Apikotoa - Wellington
    Tom Parsons - Manawatu returnee
    Lui Luamanu - Wellington
    Solomone Funaki - BoP
    Visinia - Auckland
    Tofilau - Auckland
    Taulagi - Sunwolves
    Ben Power - Wellington
    Ulufonua - Auckland
    Marshall - Manawatu returnee

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12081880

    Yes, you've got them right.

    The ones in bold played Mitre 10 Cup last year.

    Taulagi is the only one with a Magpies contract. The others have been invited to come and try their luck. If they don't secure a Magpies contract this year they, no doubt, will be elsewhere in 2019. In retrospect, the Vaega brothers coming here last year was a waste of time - just one year here and then gone. So am not quite sure if the influx of hopefuls is a good thing or not.

    Having watched a lot of club rugby I think the level of club rugby this year has probably been lifted, which is, of course, a good thing, coupled wth more players to choose from in certain positions.

    But with our Super Rugby players to come back, I also think a few of last year's debutants should be persevered with, like Tim Farrell, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Jacob Devery.

    And, I have said it before, I reckon halfback Folau Fakatava is worthy of a Magpies contract this year in his first year out of school.

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    If Ben Power was really interested in playing his way into the Magpies he should have shown the commitment and desire to represent the Bay and come right at the start of the Club season rather than turning up at the last minute. Smacks of "Oh hell, I've got no show of making the Wellington Team after all, who will have me and where can I go to earn a bit of coin". We seem to be becoming the haven or last resort call for people that can't make it elsewhere, eg that guy that was on the fringe of BoP turning up here and what look like being railroaded into the Magpies when in reality he was just a squad member at BoP that got limited game time at best.

    Having said that Ben Power is a reasonable player, but ITM Cup level - it remains to be seen.

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    @stargazer What about Josh Kaifa is he still around?

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