Protein shakes
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Plus the poor bastard has to give up red meat<br />
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<img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' /> If I ever get that fat then I'll just kill myself... -
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[quote name='virgil']<br />
Plus the poor bastard has to give up red meat<br />
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<img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' /> If I ever get that fat then I'll just kill myself...<br />
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Wasn't quite like that - was a diet type that he had to go on. -
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[quote name='virgil']<br />
Plus the poor bastard has to give up red meat<br />
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<img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' /> If I ever get that fat then I'll just kill myself...<br />
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Wasn't quite like that - was a diet type that he had to go on.<br />
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The show is on now,that guy who doesnt seem over weight and is on the protein shake diet lost over 7kg in two weeks,which is pretty hard out.Everyone else lost from less than 1 kg up to 1.5kg. -
Is he using them as actual meal replacement? I don't dig that really...<br />
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I only ever use protein shakes directly after exercise - stick back in 20 grams of protein mixed with 500ml of water, then have another 500ml water to finish off. Good for tidying up the fluid loss. -
[quote name='Red Beard']<br />
Im taking EAS 100% Whey Protein. Two shakes per day. One scoop Whey (23 grams protein), 300 mls milk, blended with one banana and a small pot of yoghurt. Contents of shake equal about 40 grams protein.<br />
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Exactly the same thing I use. Good with water, but delicious with milk. Huge fark off container- hardly subtle sitting in you kitchen though. -
[quote name='NTA']<br />
Is he using them as actual meal replacement? I don't dig that really...<br />
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I only ever use protein shakes directly after exercise - stick back in 20 grams of protein mixed with 500ml of water, then have another 500ml water to finish off. Good for tidying up the fluid loss.<br />
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Seems to be,the guys actually over doing it,not so much with the shakes but with the exercise.He lost alot of weight in the first couple weeks,the 'experts' on the show started showing their concern with his big weightloss..funny considering the show comes across as a contest to see which diet plan works best. -
They reckon healthy weight loss is about 1kg per week at most, but it depends what sort of shape you're in. If you're a big fat bastard like me then you could conceivably lose 4kg in the first fortnight just through fluid loss via exercise and eating smart. When I did Atkins (briefly) I lost 3kg in the first week! Lost 1kg per week after that but I couldn't deal with the headaches from carb and sugar withdrawal and quit after a month.
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[quote name='NTA']<br />
They reckon healthy weight loss is about 1kg per week at most, but it depends what sort of shape you're in. If you're a big fat bastard like me then you could conceivably lose 4kg in the first fortnight just through fluid loss via exercise and eating smart. When I did Atkins (briefly) I lost 3kg in the first week! Lost 1kg per week after that but I couldn't deal with the headaches from carb and sugar withdrawal and quit after a month.<br />
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You do often loss a shit load of weight in the first few weeks,we also have the biggest losser australian version on tv here..theres a guy who keeps lossing around 5 or 6kg's every week <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' />..they always say you should loss weight at the same rate you put it on.Saves on being stuck with all that flabby skin. -
[quote name='Nick the Aussie']<br />
Milk - for me its a matter of making sure my diet has enough protein to do the muscle repair and enhancement stuff as the more lean muscle mass you have, generally the faster your metabolism is (provided you're using it)<br />
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does it have to be full fat milk? -
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[quote name='"Nick the Aussie":2qct4y2y']<br />
Milk - for me its a matter of making sure my diet has enough protein to do the muscle repair and enhancement stuff as the more lean muscle mass you have, generally the faster your metabolism is (provided you're using it)<br />
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does it have to be full fat milk?<br />
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I ask the same question myself. I don't believe so, but sometimes it seems no matter what I do I'm destined for chubbiness. -
Excuse my ignorance but taking these protein shakes,are they a food substitute?..what effect does it have on your hunger and are you supposed to avoid certain types of food when your on them?
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My understanding is that its not a meal replacement, more of a snack replacement. Theoretically we should be having 5 or 6 smaller meals throughout the day (for most of us not realistic), but protein shakes give us a low fat way of having the extra two meals. I believe the snacks/light meals are important to keep your metabolism going.<br />
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Aside from that protein helps muscle repair.<br />
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I think it's a good question, and would also appreciate insight from someone more knowledgable. -
Depends what you're taking virgil - some are designed purely as full- or part-meal replacements and loaded with vitamins. Some are just for protein or in the case of serious bodybuilding stuff: Loaded with carbs AND protein. Taking those sorts of bodybuilder products requires you to actually burn it off or you'll be stacking carbs into your body and probably turning it into fat.<br />
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The one I use is basically 70% protein in the form of amino acids with a bit left over for vitamins and a small amount of fat + carbs. I use high protein and low fat/carbs because I'm not doing a lot of weights. Protein helps you with hunger cravings and stuff.<br />
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Typically I'll go for a 20-25km bike ride, or do my latest core workout, then have one scoop (31g including 23g protein) in a glass of 500mL water. The protein is good for muscle development/repair and stops me eating crap after exercise - which is the food avoidance I'm looking for <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' /> The fluid is required to replace sweat and I usually follow the shake up with another 500mL immediately, then one before bed. -
[quote name='NTA']<br />
No it doesn't - in fact I've just switched over to using water and the taste is almost as good.<br />
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no, i mean can you get protein from skimmed milk? <br />
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dumb question probably, but i'd assumed that they 'skim' the fat, not the protein?!<br />
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i dont use protein shakes and dont need to gain mass (i'm 6' 5" and 18 stone!) but would like to maintain muscle in my old age -
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The protein I use is pretty close to 100% whey. Its got no carbs at all.<br />
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The shakes with protien and carbs are meal replacements. I have no problems eating at the moment so I dont see the point.<br />
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I generally have one with breakfast, one in the afternoon, one after the gym with a teaspoon of glutamine see - [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamine]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamine[/url] then one before I go to bed (although if i go to gym late I wont have the one before bed)
