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    @mikey07 That's being a trifle optimistic. This Hurricanes side would struggle against the Reds and Brumbies who have decent forwards and backs respectively. The Sth Africans generally come up with giants in the forwards which would smother the Canes, and if that didn't work then there is the good old SA fall back of refereeing to overcome now that neutral refs seem to have been done away with as a cost cutting measure.

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    @higgins Was thinking of the likes of the the Force but unfortunately there winning games now...

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    @mikey07 Might still beat the Waratahs.

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    @stargazer Cut that optimistic attitude out

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    That 2015 Canes side would probably beat the current lot by 100 points.

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    @canes4life I’d go as far as the 2018 lot aswell.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/124574211/super-rugby-aotearoa-orbyn-leger-into-hurricanes-hot-seat-against-chiefs

    Former New Zealand Schools first-five Aidan Morgan, 19, was in the mix, too, but was deemed too young by NZ Rugby when the Hurricanes applied to add him to their squad, Holland said.
    

    So Love is still 19 DOB 24/4/2001
    Morgan DOB 7/6/2001

    Does the extra 6 weeks make a difference?
    Hope Love goes well

    Sitting in the background is another 19-year-old former NZ Schools pivot, Ruben Love, who was named in the 38-man Hurricanes squad and will play first-five for the second team the Hunters on Saturday.
    
    Holland rates Love highly and the gifted first-five/fullback will loom into contention in coming weeks after he was sidelined by concussion early in the season. Taranaki’s Daniel Waite is another pivot summoned as cover.
    
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    @winger said in Hurricanes 2021:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/124574211/super-rugby-aotearoa-orbyn-leger-into-hurricanes-hot-seat-against-chiefs

    Former New Zealand Schools first-five Aidan Morgan, 19, was in the mix, too, but was deemed too young by NZ Rugby when the Hurricanes applied to add him to their squad, Holland said.
    

    So Love is still 19 DOB 24/4/2001
    Morgan DOB 7/6/2001

    Does the extra 6 weeks make a difference?
    Hope Love goes well

    Sitting in the background is another 19-year-old former NZ Schools pivot, Ruben Love, who was named in the 38-man Hurricanes squad and will play first-five for the second team the Hunters on Saturday.
    
    Holland rates Love highly and the gifted first-five/fullback will loom into contention in coming weeks after he was sidelined by concussion early in the season. **Taranaki’s Daniel Waite is another pivot summoned as cover.**
    
    
    

    They must really have the pricker in for Lincoln McLutchie

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    @higgins This defies belief do we have to go through every 10 playing professionally before we get to him.

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    @mikey07 Certainly not, we have to endure going through all the guys training up at Rugby League Park right through to the Under 18s before that is likely to happen. Also throw in every Swindale Shield club first five before McLutchie is likely to be considered and that's before you even start on the guys playing in the 'Poo.

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    @canes4life said in Hurricanes 2021:

    The coaches really are trying their best to make this team as mediocre as possible. What a bunch of tugboats.

    Add Billy Proctor to the Holland favouritism list. After not doing much how does he get ahead of PUJ?

    Surely the most pertinent question is how come he is not in the ABs if he is a better player than PUJ (at least in the Canes selectors minds)?

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    @winger said in Hurricanes 2021:

    Former New Zealand Schools first-five Aidan Morgan, 19, was in the mix, too, but was deemed too young by NZ Rugby when the Hurricanes applied to add him to their squad, Holland said.

    
    So Love is still 19 DOB 24/4/2001
    Morgan DOB 7/6/2001
    
    Does the extra 6 weeks make a difference?
    

    I would think that age is only one of the factors to get NZR permission to play these young players. Morgan is small, so unless he has put some meat on his bones since leaving school it would be a big step up. Love is bigger and has played more NPC so far.

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    @mikey07 Maybe, maybe not. I don't have any idea whether there's any truth in it, but I've recently heard the rumour that McClutchie - after not getting a SR contract - signed a contract as injury cover with a Japanese club, but can't enter Japan because of COVID border restrictions (may have to do with the type of contract?). According to the rumour, more NZ players are in this position (including Baden Kerr). The rumour doesn't say when he signed that contract and with which club, but it would explain why he can't be called up now as injury cover for a NZ SR player.

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    @bovidae I saw Morgan play recently, and he's still a baby. Didn't look ready at all. I think having played NPC makes a big difference.

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    @higgins said in Hurricanes 2021:

    @mikey07 Certainly not, we have to endure going through all the guys training up at Rugby League Park right through to the Under 18s before that is likely to happen. Also throw in every Swindale Shield club first five before McLutchie is likely to be considered and that's before you even start on the guys playing in the 'Poo.

    Repeat after me: McClutchie, McClutchie (not McLutchie)

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    @stargazer Ahhh that might explain things a bit as the Canes selectors are probably looking up the white pages under the wrong spelling and not able to locate him then!

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    The second the got rid of Fletcher Smith I knew they were F***ed he was way better that JGB

    The hurricanes need to change their tactics to have a chance this year. Last year they could at least get Laumape moving this year he's been a dud.
    And getting rid of the van wouldn't go amiss...
    He is too old and he's holding up rayasi's progress.

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    I am a big fan of Billy Procter but why the F*** is he starting not PUJ.

    Although Armstrong benched is a good idea becuase he is shit.

    Also Flanders is better than Prinsep. But Prinseps from Canterbury so NZR loves him

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    @mackerzzzz Not sure what NZR or Canterbury has got to do with Hurricanes team selections. That's all on the Hurricanes' coaches; no running away from responsibility or blaming someone else.

    Laumape was a dud for most of the 2020 season, too. Apparently, someone needs to show him some "disruspec" before he has a good game, or two. That seems to be enough to get him into the ABs ...

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    @stargazer They seem to have some say over coaching appointments though. Firstly the Hamateur and now J Holland who both made their mark as assistant coaches at the Crusaders. One shudders to think what the ABs record might be under their stewardship.

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