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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Hastings Boys' (with the same acronym HBHS) have also had great coaches and again this year, but a much smaller budget and a much smaller player pool. They've done pretty well the last few years with two Top 4 titles, but it's clear they have a much tougher job getting there than schools like Hamilton Boys with all their resources.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    @Chester-Draws said in 2023 School Rugby:

    Success breeds success, so the likes of Warren Gatland choose to send their sons there, when he could afford a private school.

    The former definitely helps. On the latter, Warren went to HBHS himself so it's not that unusual that his son also went to the same school.

    It's not all about rugby, although the code gets the most media attention. The football team have won the National competition in the last decade and there has been Maadi Cup success in the rowing.

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    I've never thought about it before but Ham Boys really does have a much larger catchment area than the other Super 8 teams. I guess Tauranga and Palmy would have the next biggest catchment areas. Although Napier is essentially a single boys school with a boarding hostel in one city, to contrast with Hastings which has two other boys schools (which TBF probably attract some Napier peeps) and previously had competition with Te Aute.

    Edit: Not to take away from Hamilton's success as they clearly have a great rugby programme, and no longer need to rely on bent refs to win like in 2004 or 2005.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    @Nepia For context, Tauranga BC has a similar sized school roll and population to draw from, and no private school in the city.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #179

    Mid-week results

    Tuesday 23 May 2023
    Sports exchange
    Hutt International BS 27 - 12 Rathkeale College

    Thursday 25 May 2023
    Super 8
    Round 1
    Hamilton BHS 64 - 14 New Plymouth BHS

    Friday 26 May 2023
    Miles Toyota Premiership
    Round 3
    Christ's College 41 - 3 Timaru BHS

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    Yes Tauranga Boy's College should do better, given its size and lack of alternatives. But I suspect that Tauranga isn't a city that has a a rugby population in the way that the Waikato does.

    I don't really follow them much, but how are they on sports like football and cricket, which I would expect them to be better at?

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    @Bovidae said in 2023 School Rugby:

    It's not all about rugby, although the code gets the most media attention. The football team have won the National competition in the last decade and there has been Maadi Cup success in the rowing.

    When I was, briefly, at Hamilton BHS, the rowing team were considered the golden boys -- much more than the rugby team.

    There was much jubilation this year from the vast bulk of spectators at the Maadi Cup when -- after HBHS were very poor sports having won the Boys' 8s -- it was found out that they didn't win.

    In contrast, mostly people don't get so worked up about their rugby team. We'd all like to beat them, but not with the same distain. We want to beat them because they are the best.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    @Chester-Draws said in 2023 School Rugby:

    I don't really follow them much, but how are they on sports like football and cricket, which I would expect them to be better at?

    TBC are the dominant cricket school in the Super 8.

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    Fixtures - Saturday 27 May 2023

    Auckland 1A
    Round 4

    • Auckland Grammar School v St Kentigern - 2.30pm
    • Mt Albert Grammar School v Kelston BHS - 2.30pm
    • St Paul's College v De La Salle College - 2.30pm
    • King's College v Dilworth School - 2.30pm
    • Tangaroa College v Liston College - 2.30pm
    • Sacred Heart College v St Peter's College - 2.30pm


    Harbour 1A
    Round 5

    • Rosmini College v Westlake BHS - 12.00pm
    • Massey HS v Rangitoto College - 12.00pm
    • Takapuna Grammar v Orewa College - 12.00pm
    • Whangarei BHS v Manurewa HS - 12.00pm


    Central North Island
    Round 3

    • Whanganui Collegiate School v St John's, Hastings - 11.00am
    • St Paul's Collegiate v Wesley College - 12.00pm
    • Feilding HS v St Peter's Cambridge - 11.00am
    • Lindisfarne College v St John's College, Hamilton - 12.00pm
    • Francis Douglas MC v Rathkeale College - 11.00am


    Super 8
    Round 2

    • Rotorua BHS v Napier BHS - 12.00pm (livestream link below)
    • Gisborne BHS v Palmerston North BHS - 12.00pm (livestream link below)


    Wellington Premiership
    Round 2

    • St Bernard's College v Mana College - 12.30pm
    • Wairarapa College v St Pat's Town - 1.00pm
    • Scots College v Wellington College - 2.30pm
    • Rongotai College v Hutt International BS - 2.30pm
    • Tawa College v St Pat's Silverstream - 2.30pm


    Miles Toyota Premiership
    Round 3

    • Christ's College v Timaru BHS - played on Friday 26 May 2023
    • Shirley BHS v Selwyn Schools Combined - 1.00pm
    • St Bede's College v St Thomas of Canterbury College - 2.45pm
    • St Andrews College v Christchurch BHS - 2.45pm
    • Nelson College v Marlborough Boys College - to be played on Thursday 1 June 2023


    Otago Schools Rugby Championship (Division 1) - part 1
    Round 4

    • Southland BHS v King's HS - 12.45pm
    • Wakatipu HS v Waitaki BHS - 12.45pm
    • John McGlashan College v Otago BHS - 12.45

    Rotorua BHS v Napier BHS - 12.00pm


    Gisborne BHS v Palmerston North BHS - 12.00pm

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #184

    I went along to watch the CNI match between St Paul's and Wesley. It was a game in which the lead changed three times and St Paul's ended up winning 16-12 despite only scoring one try to Wesley's two. Wesley have some big, athletic players but were guilty of trying to run over the opposition instead of between them too often, and also paid for some ill-discipline when on attack. St Paul's finally took the lead from a 50 m penalty from their captain and 1st 5 (Michael Robinson). He later added another long-range penalty. I heard a parent say he is from Whangarei.

    I'll be interested to see how many of these players make the Chiefs U18s.

    This was in their match programme.
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  • StargazerS Offline
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    @Bovidae Do you know whether Rotorua's centre Malakai Cama is related to Tomasi Cama? He made a good impression in a losing side, today.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    @Stargazer No idea. RBHS always have a lot of Fijians in their squad, as well as a few that play RL too.

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    Results Saturday 27 May 2023

    Auckland 1A
    Round 4

    • Auckland Grammar School 24 - 32 St Kentiger
    • Mt Albert Grammar School 3 - 45 Kelston BHS
    • St Paul's College 10 - 30 De La Salle College
    • King's College 16 - 15 Dilworth School
    • Tangaroa College 0 - 25 Liston College
    • Sacred Heart College 15 - 0 St Peter's College


    Harbour 1A
    Round 5

    • Rosmini College 15 - 49 Westlake BHS
    • Massey HS 26 - 3 Rangitoto College
    • Takapuna Grammar 37 - 3 Orewa College
    • Whangarei BHS 75 - 0 Manurewa HS


    Central North Island
    Round 3

    • Whanganui Collegiate School 62 - 5 St John's, Hastings
    • St Paul's Collegiate 16 - 12 Wesley College
    • Feilding HS 25 - 31 St Peter's Cambridge
    • Lindisfarne College 3 - 55 St John's College, Hamilton
    • Francis Douglas MC 62 - 14 Rathkeale College


    Super 8
    Round 2

    • Rotorua BHS 19 - 32 Napier BHS
    • Gisborne BHS 21 - 59 Palmerston North BHS


    Wellington Premiership
    Round 2

    • St Bernard's College 44 - 0 Mana College
    • Wairarapa College 20 - 19 St Pat's Town
    • Scots College 31 - 0 Wellington College
    • Rongotai College 7 - 8 Hutt International BS
    • Tawa College 7 - 71 St Pat's Silverstream


    Miles Toyota Premiership
    Round 3

    • Shirley BHS 33 - 24 Selwyn Schools Combined
    • St Bede's College 20 - 22 St Thomas of Canterbury College
    • St Andrews College 8 - 29 Christchurch BHS


    Otago Schools Rugby Championship (Division 1) - part 1
    Round 4

    • Southland BHS 60 - 0 King's HS
    • Wakatipu HS 40 - 24 Waitaki BHS
    • John McGlashan College 3 - 54 Otago BHS
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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #188

    There may be more!

    Mid-week fixtures: 29 May - 2 June 2023

    Wednesday 31 May 2023
    Sports exchanges/traditionals

    • New Plymouth BHS v St Pat's Silverstream - 12.15pm (livestream link below)
    • St John's (Hastings) v St Pat's Wellington - 11.30am
    • Auckland Grammar School v Hamilton BHS - 12.15pm


    Central North Island
    Round 4
    Francis Douglas MC v Whanganui Collegiate - 12.00pm


    Traditional/Wellington Premiership
    Round 3
    Wellington College v Rongotai College - 12.15pm


    Miles Toyota Premiership
    Round 6
    Christchurch BHS v Christ's College - 12.00pm


    Thursday 1 June 2023
    Central North Island
    Round 4
    Rathkeale College v Feilding HS - 12.00pm


    Super 8
    Round 1
    Rotorua BHS v Tauranga BC - 12.30pm (livestream link below)


    Miles Toyota Premiership
    Round 3
    Nelson College v Marlborough Boys College - 12.30pm


    Friday 2 June 2023
    Harbour 1A
    Round 6
    Rangitoto College v Rosmini College - 5.15pm


    New Plymouth BHS v St Pat's Silverstream - Wednesday 31 May 2023 - 12.15pm

    Rotorua BHS v Tauranga BC - Thursday 1 June 2023 - 12.30pm

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    Results Wednesday 31 May 2023

    Sports exchanges/traditionals

    • New Plymouth BHS 17 - 34 St Pat's Silverstream
    • St John's (Hastings) 22 - 17 St Pat's Wellington
    • Auckland Grammar School 0 - 48 Hamilton BHS


    Central North Island
    Round 4
    Francis Douglas MC 22 - 43 Whanganui Collegiate


    Traditional/Wellington Premiership
    Round 3
    Wellington College 62 - 0 Rongotai College


    Miles Toyota Premiership
    Round 6
    Christchurch BHS 37 - 3 Christ's College

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #190

    @Stargazer said in 2023 School Rugby:

    • Auckland Grammar School 0 - 48 Hamilton BHS

    0-31 at HT in this game. Hamilton BHS played with the wind in the 1st half. A few of the regular starters were on the bench. AGS only had a couple of potential try-scoring opportunities in the game.

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    A returning School back into the rugby scene in the future. Year 9 and 10 enrolments only so a wee while till we know their potential.

    Kahu, New Zealand

    Education and sport power couple take charge at St Stephen's

    Education and sport power couple take charge at St Stephen's

    Yvette McCausland-Durie will lead school with husband Nathan.

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    St Peter's College vs St Bede's College will be played today. There were a group of St Bede's students watching the game at AGS yesterday.

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    @Bovidae It was hard to find, but kick-off is at 2.30pm.

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