Fatbusting: Paj Log
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we all know diets don't work, it is changing a way of thinking and eating for the rest of your life basically!! so just start by reducing portions (i fish tonight with your chips instead of two) sort of thing. <br />
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I reckon though, one meal a week where you just eat what you want - the treat meal - is a must in any eating plan! -
My/our (wife) plan is the Weight Watchers Point system. Wife has joined WW again with friends so I'm jumping on bandwagon.<br />
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My daily points: 33<br />
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Counting the points is bloody interesting, have a fancy calculater which can work out the points of different foods on Sat Fat and KJS.<br />
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Eating better and selectively to max my points. Struggling at 4pm in afternoon milking when I run out of energy and "hit the wall" Hard working pushing on until 5pm.<br />
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We have beers after work once a week, 3 or 4 but cut bac this week to the piss take of yong fellas, also at a BBQ last night and had more salad on plate than meat, again got some flack. -
I've read this thread off and on since joining. <br />
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It's great to see that although your weight goes up and down you still seem motivated. Most people who put a kilo or two on get despondent and pig out for good.<br />
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A friend of mine learnt he had type 2 diabetes last year. He was told he could treat himself by policing his own diet or carry on like he was and end up on medication.<br />
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He undertook to change his eating habits and got in touch with Diabetes Auckland. They sent him a load of leaflets which included a list of what he should be eating (and more importantly, what he should be looking out for on packet labels. `99% Fat Free' really means nothing if the product has a high sugar content).<br />
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He goes without nothing. He still has all the goodies, alcohol, sugar, fats etc - but eats them like a diabetic would.<br />
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Anyway, he was 124kg just 8 months ago (when he started his diabetic diet) and has lost 22kg and his weight is still falling.<br />
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His only exercise is walking along Ruakaka beach three times a week (because he hates exercise and gyms).<br />
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His goal weight is 80kg. His doctor's suggested goal weight is 66kg. He says he'll work at getting to his goal weight and then maybe meet the doctor half way.<br />
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The rest of his family have all lost a kilo or two as well, because their eating habits have changed too.<br />
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Just something to consider. <br />
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that is wicked TJ, and those are the best stories too. Simialr one, friend had a brother in law who got his stomach stapled tom lose weight - 16 grand or somthing. Friend was massive too, so he thought he'd show bro in law you don't need to spend that sort of money, and lost more weight, and faster, just by watching what he eats - used to be a two loaf of bread a day man!!<br />
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anyway, well done to your friend, and anyone else doing that same thing. -
Good info and cheers TJ.<br />
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Update for week:<br />
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Hard to stick to 33 points at times, especially on social club night and when invited out for BBQ or dinner at others.<br />
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But weighed in this morning before heading out and was 107.3kgs (was 107.6 before taking a piss and hoping back on scales)<br />
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This week is the same plan, 33 points. we are eating better, not snacking on my fav whitechoc button biccies....<br />
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Paj how did they work out your daily points? Is it the 'standard' number for a male your age/height/etc? does it factor in the demands of your job/lifestyle? <br />
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I was thinking that an office worker would have less points allocated than a labourer or a farmer who has a physically demanding job and requires more energy to get through the day. Just a thought re your post where you mentioned you were knackered by 4pm. Faster weight loss versus reduced performance (or increased fatigue) at work? -
Female Non Breastfeeding 7<br />
Male 14<br />
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Age 16-20 5<br />
21-35 4<br />
36-50 3<br />
51-65 2<br />
65+ 1<br />
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Weight:<br />
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if two digits your score is first digit<br />
if three digits your score is first two digits<br />
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Height:<br />
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Under 160cm 1<br />
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Ah! I figured they would have some cunning plan for working that out. Could you give an example of what a point equates to in terms of food? just trying to see how much kai 33 points equals!!<br />
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Some examples:<br />
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Hubbards toasted muesli 50 grams 4 points<br />
4 Week bix 4 points <br />
99% fat free yogurt 120g 2 points<br />
banana 1 point<br />
canned fruit, peaces, pears, apricots...about 200g 2 points<br />
Milk, I have straight from vat so not the best but free, 2 points<br />
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11 points for breaky<br />
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Lunch<br />
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can of spagetty 3 points<br />
2 wholemeal toast plain 2 points<br />
cup coffee 2 points<br />
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7 points<br />
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beer, small bottle 4 points for a treat once a week!<br />
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other stuff,<br />
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egg 1.5<br />
Big Mac 10 points<br />
The Boss 19.5 points<br />
Cheese burger 6 points<br />
fries medium 6 points<br />
Filet fish 7 points<br />
Whopper with cheese 19 points<br />
1 mellopuff 2 points<br />
crab meat 100g 1 point<br />
tuna canned 95g 1 point<br />
1 cup mussels raw 2 points<br />
chicken breast no skin, 100g 3 points with skin 60g 2.5 points<br />
mixed nuts and seed mix 30g 3 points -
Cheers Paj, really interesting to see what diff kai is 'worth'. Now I see why people chop so much Tuna!! <br />
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shit 4 points for a stubbie!! deal to a doz and that's a day and a halfs worth of food!! -
106.1Kgs this morning.<br />
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Haven't been as strict on sticking to points. Biggest problem is drinkng beer. But I do keep my meals smaller and healthier. More salads, no butter, less oil when cooking, grillng more etc.<br />
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Haven't got on bike as yet due to beng out 3 nights but went for big walk hunting on Thurs night which blew a few cobwebs out of the system. -
have been working on eating less - ie portion size. Amazing how much you can reduce your meal size and still get everything you need.<br />
Reminds me of when a bunch of us went to a dance festival (Gathering) during Uni and by the end of it a meal of 2 minute noodles would fill us up for pretty much the whole day! Took about a week to get back to eating 3 or so decent sized meals once we got home. -
106.9Kgs<br />
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Put on this week due to two nights out to dinner parties, one being a drink-a-thon until wee hours. Also a road trip to the naki and back on same day resulting in visiting new maaca d's in Whanganui.<br />
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Back on track for now. -
Paj - this is a Jenny Craig one that might work for you....<table class="MsoNormalTable" style="" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr style=""><td style="padding: 0in;" valign="top"><table class="MsoNormalTable" style="width: 100%;" width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr style=""><td style="width: 100%; padding: 1.5pt;" width="100%"><table class="MsoNormalTable" style="" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr style=""><td style="padding: 0in;" valign="top"><br />
</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>A guy calls a company and orders their 5-day, 10 lb. Weight loss program.<br />
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The next day, there's a knock on the door and there stands before him a voluptuous, athletic,19 year old babe dressed in nothing but a pair of Nike running shoes and a sign around her neck.<br />
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She introduces herself as a representative of the weight loss company. The sign reads, 'If you can catch me, you can have me.'<br />
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Without a second thought, he takes off after her. A few miles later huffing and puffing, he finally gives up..<br />
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The same girl shows up for the next four days and the same thing happens.<br />
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On the fifth day, he weighs himself and is delighted to find he has lost 10 lbs. as promised. He calls the company and orders their 5-day/20 pound program.<br />
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The next day there's a knock at the door and there stands the most stunning, beautiful, sexy woman he has ever seen in his life.. She is wearing nothing but<br />
Reebok running shoes and a sign around her neck that reads, 'If you catch me you can have me'.<br />
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Well, he's out the door after her like a shot. This girl is in excellent shape and he does his best, but no such luck. So for the next four days, the same routine happens with him gradually getting in better and better shape.<br />
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Much to his delight on the fifth day when he weighs himself, he discovers that he has lost another 20 lbs. As promised. He decides to go for broke and calls the company to order the 7-day/50 pound program<br />
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'Are you sure?' asks the representative on the phone..... 'This is our most rigorous program.'<br />
'Absolutely,' he replies, 'I haven't felt this good in years.'<br />
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The next day there's a knock at the door; and when he opens it he finds a huge muscular guy standing there wearing nothing but pink running shoes and a sign around his neck that reads, 'If I can catch you, you're mine.'<br />
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He lost 63 pounds that week.
