@Billy-Tell Yes, pass looked a shade forward.
Think both games have highlighted three things which will be crucial come WC time.
Discipline leadership/game management and the ability to execute in the last 10 mins. Simple really.......now if only Foster was paying attention...

@Frank said in England vs Springboks:

@OomPB said in England vs Springboks:

@NTA Saffer little blokes (7s) changed our franchises attacking skills. Stormers have Senatla Davids, Sharks Abrahams, Cheetahs Spekman, Bulls KL Arendse.

Arendse attended Klein Nederburg (from a disadvantage Paarl township) and played for Boland 7s before getting into the SA 7s squad and Jake White scout him for the Bulls. Moodie from Boland Landbou

Can they defend well against big power wingers?

You know what? Who cares when they can do the shit they already do

NZ fans are obsessed with perfect players

Oh yeah he scores two tries a test and regularly turns guys inside out but because he missed two tackles I want him fired

Especially out wide we've forgotten what wings are for. They are not loose forwards FFS.

Beat guys and create opportunities for points FFS

@OomPB said in England vs Springboks:

@NTA Saffer little blokes (7s) changed our franchises attacking skills. Stormers have Senatla Davids, Sharks Abrahams, Cheetahs Spekman, Bulls KL Arendse.

Arendse attended Klein Nederburg (from a disadvantage Paarl township) and played for Boland 7s before getting into the SA 7s squad and Jake White scout him for the Bulls. Moodie from Boland Landbou

Can they defend well against big power wingers?

@Stargazer said in England vs Springboks:

Does anyone else think the pass to Le Roux was forward? Looked a bit Michalak-like.

@Bovidae said in England vs Springboks:

@sparky said in England vs Springboks:

@Bovidae said in England vs Springboks:

It was frustrating that every English pass stuck last week in the final 10 mins whereas today they looked rather clueless when chasing the game, and made numerous errors.

South Africa didn't lose focus after 65 minutes but kept hammering away. It's been so disappointing to see the ABs lose their culture of ruthlessness under Foster. The Boks still have it.

Like at Ellis Park? They've lost games late too.

No, only the All Blacks under Foster have flaws, everyone else is amazing

If I grow a mo I look like a taller version of my dad so my wife has banned it

@Bovidae was planning to head over for this until I checked the forecast. Glad I didn't.

I did Movember once, about 12 years ago. Made no money. And it was fucking torture for the first 3 weeks.

@MajorRage said in Grumpy Old Man:

@MN5 said in Grumpy Old Man:

@Nepia said in Grumpy Old Man:

@MajorRage said in Grumpy Old Man:

Movember.

Fuck. Off. Not shaving your top lip for charity is like me only wanking with my left hand for charity. You aren’t achieving shit, or suffering shit.

Stupidest idea ever.

I'm as grumpy as fuck and I don't really get why you're getting so worked up about this one. If it raises money then who cares? I'd rather grow a mo than not eat for 40 hours to raise money for charity. If you can get people to pay and not suffer shit then that's way more sensible to me.

Plus you get to look like a porn star/sex offender/Tom Selleck/Sean Connery/Burt Reynolds/Terry Wright/Hulk Hogan depending on what cards you get dealt in terms of mo growing ability.

Win/win

Exactly. You are asking people to pay you to do something you enjoy that takes minimal effort.

If you want my charity moo la, you need to earn it.

Is this grumpiness cos you’re one of those guys who can’t grow a mo ?

@sparky said in England vs Springboks:

@Bovidae said in England vs Springboks:

It was frustrating that every English pass stuck last week in the final 10 mins whereas today they looked rather clueless when chasing the game, and made numerous errors.

South Africa didn't lose focus after 65 minutes but kept hammering away. It's been so disappointing to see the ABs lose their culture of ruthlessness under Foster. The Boks still have it.

Like at Ellis Park? They've lost games late too.