@MajorRage said in Barnes autobiography:
The only thing you can do is actually change the rules and/or the way it's refereed to try and reduce controversy.
100% this.
The refs and TMOs are simply the messengers being shot.
The issue lies in the laws and framework they are asked to apply.
Rory's just been handed 15mm from the PGA for generating interest.
Yes, all of the above is correct.
I have to say I actually find professional golf quite sickening now. The levels of money are absolutely fucking stupid. Rory's just been handed more money than 99.999% of the worlds population will earn in their entire lifetime as some sort of a bonus for being on twitter.
My last sporting fan goal in life (US Masters) has pretty much so evaporated since LIV. Shit like this, doesn't help.
McIlroy beats Woods to PGA Tour's $15m PIP prize
Rory McIlroy beats Tiger Woods to the PGA Tour's $15m (£11.9m) prize for generating the most media interest in 2023, a week after resigning from the tour's Policy Board.
@Bovidae said in Barnes autobiography:
WR has to take some responsibility themselves. If they weren't so protective of the refs/TMOs and publicly acknowledged when mistakes/errors were made, the fan reaction wouldn't be anywhere as bad. Instead they bury their heads in the sand and hope it all goes away.
Yes and no. What we are talking bout here is behavioural changes of the general population, not anything simple. Given the game is subjective, there will always be people that see Cane's card, Etzbeth getting away with a leading forearm and call foul / bias. You could also look SA getting the penalty to win their SF, see the similarities to the last scrum in the final and ask where was the NZ penalty? Thats just two examples where idiots can (controversially, legitimately) say officiating handed the world cup to South Africa.
I'm certainly one for thinking rules shouldn't be set for the lowest common denominator (Which they are), but you also can't keep your head in the sand when your changes are blatantly not working. We saw 3 yellow cards and a red in the world cup final for fucks sakes. How can it possibly be explained that the changes are having an effect, when 4 people got sent from the field in the biggest game of their lives for indiscretions? The only thing you can do is actually change the rules and/or the way it's refereed to try and reduce controversy.
The idea that we continue down this path & hope it all works out in the future is absurd. IT doesn't matter how many people condemn the people with death threats, they will still exist. They always have and they always will. That is the human population.
If you want to take death threats to officials away, you need to reduce the controversy.
The thing about that graph is that it ignores the actual level of population ie US has around 5x the population of the UK, taking that into account the numbers are not that dissimilar. UK has around 5x Sweden and 12x NZ. Then of course there is also density of population with only Singapore anywhere like the UK for density.
As always things are very far from being as simple as we’d like.
@stodders said in Coronavirus - UK:
Sweden's excess mortality is far below that of the UK. Colour me shocked that the Chinese lockdown strategy wasn't scalable across the supposed "free world".
I would argue what the Swedish experience shows that if you have a strategy you stick with it. The UK didn't go with a Chinese lockdown strategy. They vacillated between doing fuck all and then locking down, pretty much after the horse had bolted. So yes the lockdown was largely pointless.
Here's excess mortality for the US who are the poster child of a confused and confusing response, the UK who as I said yo-yo'd and three countries that had coherent strategies (like them or loathe them), Sweden, NZ and Singapore.
What is often ignored when discussing Sweden is the fact that it did pretty much lock down as well - just not as a result of govt mandates. They had social distancing, WFH policies, mask wearing, the closure of public events and the population to a large extent complied and stayed home. The big difference was schools and day care stayed open.
Look at the graph though and I would say the important thing was the govt did have a strategy and stuck to it.
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
@stodders said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:
@Dan54 with NZ losing so much playing talent, and with it the ability to be player-led, maybe the coach does need to be main man again. A bit like Carwyn James when masterminded the Lions triumph in '71 (albeit aided by some generational talent) and ushered NZ into the modern age of running rugby
NZ used to be leading rugby-innovators. Time to re-take that mantle and develop the players to follow the Robertson masterplan
Mate not in anyway arguing against Razor doing shows etc, and I not sure I have ever felt that the coach wasn't main man for ABs. Was just commenting on how Mrs etc thought of how it was going. I have enjoyed Ryan being in press an awful lot since he been forward coach (he genuinely has been) but also has just been very interesting about how he saw game going and elements of it rather than himself. Once again it not against Razor who I completely support etc, just the way I thought perhaps the show/questions were asked etc.
Also I do actually have a little worry when the coach is so important, as you mention Carwyn James, who was not someone who was front and centre, but get worried when you end up with press making it too much. I give you Eddie Jones who I believe has always made it about himself etc.
I DO NOT think Razor is anyway like him and don't want to get him like that. I will admit, would personally prefer he never did a breakdance again (find it cringeworthy) , which is what he is probably know for as much as his coaching almost overseas.
it wouldnt bother me if he did the breakdance after a WC win ,
But dont want to see it as a yearly thing winning bledisloes , rugby championships etc
@Bovidae said in Barnes autobiography:
@nzzp said in Barnes autobiography:
@Bovidae said in Barnes autobiography:
publicly acknowledged when mistakes/errors were made
this is also because so much is interpretation - so one ref's 'play on' is another's 'yellow/red card'. It absoultely sucks.
Raynal was 100% right in what should happen. The officials should be able to explain the decisions they made, even if fans/coaches/players don't agree with them. The lack of transparency and clarity leads to the frustration and the online abuse.
Absolutely. LIke in cricket, there's a big differnece between a bad decision and a wrong decision. Rugby's implementation of technology has been the worst of any major sport - even the soccer VAR/goal line is better now. We pick some random moments, slow them down, and then take players off as a result. It's broken.
I will say it great to see him getting in amongst it with Super coaches etc, spending time with MacMillan and so on.
Also like how particular coaches are looking at certain positions in super comp ,although I think this is generally how it done anyway, but maybe a little more specific. I remember being at a lunch in Brisbane when Foxy talked about how it worked, he was a selector at time. It has always been that way for quite sometime, just expanding it a bit. Not sure if all will be selectors or feed info into group.
