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    • Stargazer
      Stargazer last edited by Duluth

      Magpies

      1 Jason Long
      2 Ash Dixon (c)
      3 Pouri Rakete-Stones
      4 Nick Palmer
      5 Geoff Cridge
      6 Tony Lamborn
      7 Hugh Renton
      8 Marino Mikaele-Tu'u
      9 Brad Weber (vc)
      10 Tiaan Falcon
      11 Mason Emerson
      12 Richard Buckman
      13 Jonah Lowe
      14 Hayden Hann
      15 Ihaia West

      Reserves
      16 Jacob Devery
      17 Tim Farrell
      18 Jarvy Aoake
      19 Josh Eden-Whaitiri
      20 Fa'alemiga Selesele
      21 Ellery Wilson
      22 Cardiff Vaega
      23 TJ Vaega

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      • Stargazer
        Stargazer last edited by

        Good to see that Dixon, Emerson and West are back in the squad and that Lamborn is fit, too.
        Will be interesting to see how Farrell copes with playing at this level, once he makes his debut off the bench.

        Finally, also the right midfield combination of Buckman and Lowe. I hope this works a lot better. Also glad they've decided to play West at fullback and keep Falcon at 10.

        I have no illusions about how hard this game will be (although Counties aren't playing great either), but am a lot more positive with players returning from injury and a better midfield combo. Now hoping that all is good between the ears, too.

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          Steven Harris @Stargazer last edited by

          @Stargazer Going down to Pukekohe to have a bo-peep,side looks the strongest the Magpies have put out on paper at least this year..
          Not to sure what to Expect,both teams will be a little dark based on their last performances..

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          • Stargazer
            Stargazer @Steven Harris last edited by

            @Steven-Harris Yes, on paper this side looks good. Still missing important players in Allardice, Evans, McNicol and May though, and such a young squad. They need to play well to get some self-confidence.

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              Steven Harris @Stargazer last edited by

              @Stargazer that's a fair point,just getting out of that losing habit is tough in itself,hoping the confidence is not too dented,
              Really good that Tiaan Falcon has been reinstated to first five just for his confidence alone.
              I suspect Counties Manukau are in a similar boat,quite frankly given their roster they had on the field against the Cantabs,the performance they dished up was woeful..

              Even Maggies kept trying against Otago..!

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              • Stockcar86
                Stockcar86 @Steven Harris last edited by

                @Steven-Harris said in Counties Manukau v Magpies:

                @Stargazer Going down to Pukekohe to have a bo-peep,side looks the strongest the Magpies have put out on paper at least this year..
                Not to sure what to Expect,both teams will be a little dark based on their last performances..

                I'm hoping to be at the game too, work permitting

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                • Stargazer
                  Stargazer last edited by

                  Counties

                  1 Pauliasi Manu, 2. Joe Royal, 3. Coree Te Whata-Colley, 4. Ronald Raaymakers, 5. Jimmy Tupou ©, 6. Johnathan Kawau, 7. Fotu Lokotui, 8. Sam Henwood;
                  9 Augustine Pulu ©,10. Baden Kerr, 11.Tevita Nabura, 12. Orbyn Leger, 13. Sam Furniss, 14. Nigel Ah Wong, 15. Tim Nanai-Williams.

                  Reserves:
                  16 Gafatasi Su'a, 17. Sean Bagshaw, 18. Kalolo Tuiloma, 19. Viliame Rarasea 20. Leroy Jack, 21. Jonathan Taumateine, 22. Albert Nikoro, 23. Luteru Laulala.

                  Not considered because of injury: Stephen Donald, Glen Fisi’iahi, and Mat Vaai.

                  http://www.steelers.co.nz/steelers-heat/news/hard-working-look-to-pic-steelers-line-up-to-host-hawkes-bay.html

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                  • Stargazer
                    Stargazer last edited by

                    Late change to the Magpies line-up:
                    Hayden Hann has had to withdraw and is replaced on the wing by TJ Vaega.
                    Pasqualle Dunn named on the bench.

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                    • Stockcar86
                      Stockcar86 last edited by

                      Work intervened so I couldn't make it to the game. After 8 minutes it's a cripple fight

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                      • Stockcar86
                        Stockcar86 last edited by Stockcar86

                        15 minutes, still keystone cops play by both sides

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                        • Higgins
                          Higgins @Stockcar86 last edited by

                          @Stockcar86 said in Counties Manukau v Magpies:

                          Work intervened so I couldn't make it to the game. After 8 minutes it's a cripple fight

                          But not intervening too much to stop you watching it I notice.

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                          • Higgins
                            Higgins last edited by

                            On hell, I knew it was too good to last. Countines in for a try , somewhat fortuitously. Might bugger off soon and take my seat at Westpac Stadium to see Wellington get dealt to in person.

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                            • Higgins
                              Higgins last edited by Higgins

                              Hold all tickets, the Magpies have scored, could this be an omen or just a false dawn? The Ihaia West conversion levels things up at Counties 07 - 07 Hawkes Bay after 26 minutes

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                              • Stockcar86
                                Stockcar86 @Higgins last edited by

                                @Higgins said in Counties Manukau v Magpies:

                                @Stockcar86 said in Counties Manukau v Magpies:

                                Work intervened so I couldn't make it to the game. After 8 minutes it's a cripple fight

                                But not intervening too much to stop you watching it I notice.

                                Yes, but I don't have 2 hours to spare to drive to the game and back.

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                                • Stockcar86
                                  Stockcar86 last edited by

                                  Half time Hawkes Bay lead 7-7 (away tries break the tie-breaker)

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                                  • Stockcar86
                                    Stockcar86 last edited by

                                    Buckman, Lowe and Nanai-Williams looking like the only players of class out there

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                                    • Stargazer
                                      Stargazer last edited by

                                      Man, that was so frustrating to watch, again. Basic skills totally lacking. I thought Jonah Lowe was outstanding; he's like a predator on the field, waiting to strike whenever he gets the chance. Ihaia West was good, too; but the rest? Butterfingers.

                                      One thing I noticed, since Tim Farrell came on, the scrum didn't go backwards anymore. Coincidence, or is this lad really strong?

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                                      • Stockcar86
                                        Stockcar86 last edited by

                                        Still no evidence of them playing as a team. Just having a few players having good games won't help them win anything. Taranaki-Harbour-Northland looking like a hard slog

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                                        • Stargazer
                                          Stargazer @Stockcar86 last edited by

                                          @Stockcar86 said in Counties Manukau v Magpies:

                                          Still no evidence of them playing as a team. Just having a few players having good games won't help them win anything. Taranaki-Harbour-Northland looking like a hard slog

                                          I assume part of the reason is that - due to injuries - they have not been able to field the same team every game. Players playing out of position is another one. It would be great if they can now persist with today's line-up (injuries permitting), but even then, you're right about the remaining games; they are going to be very difficult.

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                                            Steven Harris last edited by

                                            Just got in from today's Magpies game,my first impressions were,the level of play mirrored where both teams are sitting on their respective tables..Mistakes for Africa..!

                                            Being at the ground,what was noticeable,you would have almost thought some of the backs had met in the car park before the game.

                                            The ball just seemed to go through the hands,without anyone straightening the line.Jonah Lowe looked very dangerous,but needed Buckman to run hard at the line a couple of times to keep CMs drifting outsides guessing..would have been good to see the ball also in the hands of Mason Emerson with space.

                                            I thought the pack did reasonably well against a big physical Counties pack,Cridge was good at lineout time,a bit upright in contact..apart from the odd creaky scrum,in the main they did well,there were a lot of scrum penalties conceded by Counties on the tight head side

                                            There was a good battle on the tight head side,Pauliasi Manu the loosehead Counties and Pouri Rakete Stones,Manu is a very shrewd,experienced and powerful operator,and I thought the young fella at 20 years old did well.

                                            I was disappointed with Brad Weber,we all know how good he can be,just wondering if he is trying too hard,and what was noticeable on at least 2-3 occasions his optionn taking left a bit to be desired.

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                                            • Stargazer
                                              Stargazer @Steven Harris last edited by

                                              @Steven-Harris Thanks for your impressions of the game. Always good to hear from someone who was at the ground!

                                              Despite our terrible season, and the high error rate in games, I think some of our young players are coping reasonably well, all things considered. Just out of interest, I looked up the age of the players in today's line-up:

                                              1 Jason Long (25)
                                              2 Ash Dixon (c) (29)
                                              3 Pouri Rakete-Stones (20)
                                              4 Nick Palmer (25)
                                              5 Geoff Cridge (22)
                                              6 Tony Lamborn (26)
                                              7 Hugh Renton (21)
                                              8 Marino Mikaele-Tu'u (19)
                                              9 Brad Weber (vc) (26)
                                              10 Tiaan Falcon (20)
                                              11 Mason Emerson (21)
                                              12 Richard Buckman (28)
                                              13 Jonah Lowe (21)
                                              14 TJ Vaega (20)
                                              15 Ihaia West (25)
                                              16 Jacob Devery (18 or 19)
                                              17 Tim Farrell (19)
                                              18 Jarvy Aoake (29)
                                              19 Josh Eden-Whaitiri (27?)
                                              20 Fa'alemiga Selesele (28)
                                              21 Ellery Wilson (27)
                                              22 Pasqualle Dunn (23)
                                              23 Cardiff Vaega (25)

                                              Rakete-Stones & Mikaele-Tu'u were never meant to start every game, but they do because of injuries to Ben May and Gareth Evans. Three of our six frontrowers are 19-20 years old. Our reserve lock isn't a squad member but a member of our development team. Two of our four loosies are 19 and 21 years old. Of our starting backs, four players (10, 11, 13 and 14) are 20 or 21 years old.

                                              We're having a frustratingly bad season, but looking at the age of many of these players, you could see this as a development year for those players. It's a pity though, that some of the senior players they are supposed to learn from are either injured (May, Allardice, Evans) or have just returned from injury after a long injury break (particularly Weber). Some of these young players also have themselves struggled with injury (Cridge, Farrell & Emerson in particular). All these losses are also bad for self-confidence; while some losses can teach valuable lessons, you don't want these young bucks starting their rugby career without wins either. For the players who debuted last year (Mikaele-Tu'u, Emerson, Lowe and Falcon), it has been two bad seasons already.

                                              It would be nice if we could have at least one more win this season, but I doubt it will happen. Even the Turbos are playing better than us 🤢

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