The fact that they’ve picked a team that so many on the Fern wanted makes me nervous. As a collective we have a strong proven record of not having a fucking clue what we are talking about.
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RE: MotM vs Australia II
I missed the game as my wife decided to go into labor - as a Wallabies supporter I guess from her perspective childbirth is less painful than watching them play the ABs so fair enough.
Have caught the highlights - geez we scored some great tries eh? Squire's was a thing of beauty, the angle he ran and the perfectly timed ball from BBBR. Orgasmic. Also loved how Moody lined up a couple of backs on their goalline and just smashed the fuck through them.
Great to see us put Beauden into some space as well, he's a very different player to Carter but fuck we can tear teams apart if we use him like we did last night.
RE: All Blacks v France Test #2
@MiketheSnow Fall could have avoided the collision by checking his run. The current laws have actually outlawed "only having eyes on the ball". They've mandated that players must be more aware when chasing high balls. And that's what he was doing - chasing, whereas Beauden was fielding the kick. The duty of care is on the chaser.
They did that to stop players clattering into their opposition while staring at the sky and then claiming innocence.
I don't for a second believe Fall intentionally tried to injure Beauden. But as it stands Beauden landed on his head and was concussed.
And you can bet your ass next time Fall is chasing a high ball like that he will check his run and avoid the collision, which is exactly the behaviour WR is trying to encourage with this.
RE: Ireland Vs All Blacks
Without reading the whole thread I really dislike this idea that we are "keeping the powder dry' for the RWC. It just shits all over the All Blacks legacy. Like really? Another historic loss to Ireland because we want to keep our winning game plan up our sleeve? Fuck that shit, the All Blacks should be playing every game like it's a RWC final - win at all costs. I was really proud of our record against teams like Ireland. These losses really hurt.
RE: Christchurch Gunman in Mosque
So I've seen some right leaning publications stating that the Al-Noor Mosque has ties to extremism, so I did a bit of digging to see if there was any validity to their claims.
Summary: no, not really.
Basically, the claim comes from the fact that two brothers - Daryl and Nathan Jones converted to Islam at this Mosque. Daryl ended up being radicalized and joined Al-Qaeda and was killed in a drone strike. Nathan didn't, and denounced extremism in all forms. It is likely Daryl was radicalized online.
Some more history of the Mosque:
- historically speaking, the Muslim community has been dominated by South Asians that practice a moderate form of Sunni Islam.
- in more recent times, due largely to resettling refugees, there has been an increase in Somali and Arab Muslims - these Muslims are much more conservative.
- the Somali and Arab Muslims place a greater importance on the Mosque in their daily lives and as such have taken control of MAC, who run it. This is largely due to social reasons - they are generally in a lower socio-economic group than the South Asians and do not speak great English, so have found it more difficult to integrate. The Mosque is somewhere they can go and feel like they belong.
- in 2003 controversy broke out within the Muslim community. Basically, to assist the community financially, a major Arab charity called Al-Haramain offered financial assistance.
- this charity is pro-Wahabi with suspected ties to Al-Qaeda. Despite the fact this would have provided substantial financial assistance, the Muslim community rejected this as they did not want any ties to potential extremists. They also did not want to change the Mosque to only ultra-conservative teachings.
- there is also some underlying tensions between the South Asians and the Somali and Arab Muslims as they practice different teachings of Islam.
That's what I came up with in terms of ties to extremist groups. Just wanted to put this out there to provide a bit of nuance as you only ever get one side in our biased media organisations.
RE: All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3
I reckon Poite got it right. Now I expect that to go down on here like a glass of warm urine, but nonetheless I feel like I can back it up.
I also think it's fair that AB fans feel a bit aggrieved. I would if it happened to the Wallabies. For me it was a genuine 50/50 call, with a lot of grey areas. I've written more about it here if you are really desperate for more (the comments are quite interesting).
At the very least, his decision to call a scrum is justifiable under law 11. It's miles from a Wayne Barnes forward pass scenario, or even a Bryce Lawrence at the 2011 RWC QF scenario.
It's a fascinating discussion once you remove the emotion. Really comes back to the idea of intent and what it is to 'play the ball'.
Sorry @barbarian but your article quotes the wrong laws. There's a specific law for offside from a knock on. You've quoted laws from 11.1 - Offside in general play and 11.6 - Accidental offside.
The only law that comes into play here is 11.7 Offside after a knock-on as that is what happened.
When a player knocks-on and an offside team-mate next plays the ball, the offside player is liable to sanction if playing the ball prevented an opponent from gaining an advantage.
So all we have to consider is:
- Did he play at the ball? Unquestionably yes, he caught it.
- Did he prevent the opponent from gaining an advantage? Unquestionably yes, he stopped the All Black players coming through from regaining possession immediately. ALB did well to seize the opportunity after he dropped it but that doesn't change the fact he stopped us from regaining it sooner.
That is what Read was trying to say to Poite - accidental offside doesn't come into play from a knock on. It has it's own separate law and that has been ruled consistently for as long as I've watched rugby. Players realising too late that they've played at a ball that was knocked on happens all the time - that doesn't change the decision.
RE: All Blacks v France Test #1
@mariner4life We've played two fullbacks and a power winger for a long time. It works.
I disagree with Crotty and ALB. They individually had very average games in terms of execution and decision making. How that combined becomes brilliant you'll have to explain.
brilliant may have been over-doing it, but they created a lot of opportunities for a couple of blokes playing their first game together in a while. To me (and bear in mind i was watching on a phone while in a restaurant) the errors looked more to be execution than judgement, and I'm not chucking Crotty under the bus for having square wheels, or ALB dropping the ball when about to get fucking smoked because they ran a move that would embarrass an U14 side.
I guess i can't see any player running around who would make a better combination.
Yes, i know we have played the 2 fullbacks thing for ages, fucking duh. But with different personnel back there.
I agree, they compliment each other well and IIRC carved up a couple of seasons ago when they strung a few games together. We don't get the strong ball runner you get in Laumape, but we get a lot of other big benefits.
And regarding your Jordie comments, I've alerted the Canes mafia. Expect the backlash to be swift and ruthless.
Aren't you the Don? Especially when discussing your chief button man Jordie Barretto.
We share the duties around. I come down hard on anyone that misspeaks about Jordie. @Rancid-Schnitzel has Beauden covered, and we've recruited @Stargazer to white knight Scott as he plays for the Crusaders at the moment.
RE: AB EOYT 2018
So they'll pick Frizzel from the Highlanders bench, raw as all fuck with about 100 "work ons" and even put him into the starting 15.
But they'll make Akira, dominating at Super level, wait and wait and wait because they've identified some small areas he needs to improve on.
RE: Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz
I'm not overly concerned if someone crashes and dies while fleeing the police. Seems like a pretty easy situation to avoid.
RE: Racism in NZ
A couple of days ago a white privilege hashtag was trending on twitter, where a bunch of white people talked about how they have privilege and what they get away with because of it. So my wife put out the call on her Facebook for people to talk about their white privilege (yeah she likes to debate people...).
Anyway she had a Canadian guy that has worked as a teacher in northern and predominantly native population schools talk about the racism his kids experienced, being called savages etc. and that he has white privilege as it doesn't happen to him.
I got her permission to post her response as she does a good job of articulating the problems with the idea of white privilege and why we need to stop going on about it all the time:
I think it is absolutely abhorrent for people to direct that type of language to anyone let alone children. I don’t dispute that your students have dealt with racism, and unfortunately, they probably will for the rest of their lives, I say this because I am in their shoes. No amount of legislation or multiculturalism will ever get rid of hateful ideas like racism, there will always be hateful people for whatever reason. I think the work you have done with indigenous kids and children in general is commendable, teachers play one of the most important roles in shaping society. I really admire people like you because I was raised by teachers, and some of the best role models I have had in my life have been my teachers (all of whom were white). The way I see racism and how I would explain it especially to young people of colour is that when I was their age, I wish someone would have told me that my worth does not come from the colour of my skin. I have come to learn that as a human being, I don’t derive any value from skin colour, just like I don’t place any value on my eye colour or my hair colour as they are just immutable human characteristics that I have no control over whatsoever. It comes from the things that I have worked for; like being a good mother, a person of good character and a good lawyer. This is what Martin Luther King Jr meant when he said that a person should not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character. I am a Torres Strait Islander which makes me an indigenous Australian. My biggest concern is for kids from indigenous and minority backgrounds not just in Australia but from all over the world. I worry about their mindset and the impact ideas such as white privilege has on their mental health. I say that particularly because indigenous kids in Australia (and in fact NZ) suffer from high rates of depression, anxiety and suicide, granted there are various reasons for that but this is an important one. The focus on race and skin colour has very bad consequences for their mental health and this was the case for me growing up in NZ. A lot of kids from indigenous and minority backgrounds face poverty and domestic violence and when you throw in the idea that society is rigged against us, how can you expect us to have a positive outlook on life? Take for example a young indigenous girl in Australia, and she is one of many who has taken her life, in her last Facebook post she talked about how racist the world was. It makes my blood boil that kids are being told that they have no hope before they even have the chance to properly experience the world. The whole concept of white privilege promotes the idea that indigenous and minority kids have no chance, when we know that privilege exists in many different forms and that not all white people are privileged. Privilege does not solely come from skin colour, we need to stop giving our children that message. I would also add that I think the idea of white privilege is reprehensible and it is not because some white people are not privileged, people from various backgrounds have privileges. But the idea that you can target an ethnic group with a collective crime regardless of the innocence or guilt of the individuals of that group; there is nothing more racist than that.