Good RWC dress rehearsal this tour.
Replicating 1/4 final, semi-final, 3/4th playoff ....
My tip to young players. Let the opposition player get up in their own time. A try scorer under a pile up has been happening for 150 years before you fluffybunnies started ruining these moments by .... being fluffybunnies .... and yanking disappointed opposition players out of the way for your un-waitable celebration.
I find this one strange as well. I think we as fans ( including Mex) are fully within our rights to blast the ref and say he cost us the series. I think the players and coaches should look at themselves and figure out how to take the ref out the game and that's exactly what they are doing. Not like the ABs were terrible, Poite and SBW hurt them bad. I thought by 3rd test they figured out how to beat rush defense but execution was poor but easily fixable. The result is what is but I think things like blaming Hansen for substituting Half back which the ABs have done for at least 13years is just silly.
I'm in the "ref didn't cost us the game camp" but in no way I'm of the opinion that criticism of his 78th min decisions should be shut down. That was the worst refereeing moment I can remember.
I don't think he 'cost us the game' because I only give Beauden a 60% chance of slotting that the way he was kicking. Where as I give Julian as 100% costing us a try and I think Beauden has already blown a 95% gettable kick. Then add in the cumulative 50%ers that were blown periodically through the match.
Up until 78 mins I thought Poite was good.
But that decision (and process) was disgraceful.
I now really doubt his moral fibre. He made a correct decision in real time, it was technically harsh on the guilty party but correct. He then allowed himself to go to the TMO to check foul play so that his already made decision could be taken away from his responsibility if possible, it couldn't, but then he allowed Garces to change his mind (incorrectly). He tried really, really, really hard to not have his decision be the 'series-deciding decision'. Very weak.
I would think that would set alarm bells off in WR Refereeing HQ. This wasn't a fast real time mistake, it was a failure of courage.
However I do not currently have faith in the Referring HQ. Their treatment of Joubert was a disgrace to the sport when they hung him out to dry after he made a brave but incorrect decision in the RWC in very similar circumstances.
To be contradictory, I do find the analysising of every single refereeing decision in a game on social media etc to be pointless. It's a quick game with decisions made in real time, fans need to just get on with it. Where I think this is bad is that it was done slowly, looking for every opportunity to back out of a decision.
I'm not actually salty about the series result. Getting the penalty and Beauden flukeing it over may have been the worst result for me, if it just papers over the cracks of our obvious weakness. But I'm soft as Rocky Rockvottom says (I think) after our back to back world cups.
Some top level whining bullshit:
15 against 16? What's he smoking, France barely ever had 15 .....
It really does reveal the 'narrative' is irrelevant to what actually happens on the pitch. Divorced from reality.
In a game in which:
People are making videos about AB ref bias. Unbelievable! After this game ?!?!?
Pick your battles better, like a game where NZ actually did get the rub of the green.
Fans shouldn't come into it when deciding logistics of moving the games.
As long as Sapporo Dome isn't being used for Baseball or something, any games looking to be effected should be moved up there. Move the players and officials - Fans left to their own devices. Sell tickets in Sapporo to first come first served (e.g. mostly locals).
This is a piss weak response.
Move the games. Offer any poor petal effected fans some free counselling.
@Rapido If they have ethnicity based criteria for signing players, I assume they'll be breaching the Human Rights Act and other legislation.
It wont really matter who they sign.
From day 1, Aucklanders of certain ethnicities will be channeled to support different teams.
But on signings, its illegal for NZRU to restrict current SR Franchises to only sign 3 non-NZ players when those non-NZ players are born and bred NZers qualified to play for parents country. But they do.
South Auckland base for planned Pasifika super rugby side
A group of former All Blacks, including two-time World Cup winner Jerome Kaino, are behind the establishment of the first professional rugby union team in Hawaii.
Kanaloa Hawaii has had its bid to join America's Major League Rugby confirmed and is now in talks with New Zealand Rugby about joining a revamped Super Rugby competition.
It would be a separate team to the one that will play in the US, and would be based in South Auckland.
Kaino and fellow former All Blacks Joe Rokocoko, John Afoa, Benson Stanley, Anthony Tuitavake and Ben Atiga are in the Kanaloa Hawaii ownership group.
The chief executive of Kanaloa Hawaii, Tracy Atiga, told RNZ Pacific, said they have already had discussions with New Zealand Rugby about the possibility of joining a new-look Super Rugby tournament.
New Zealand Rugby is currently examining the future make up of Super Rugby and the international Rugby Championship, with its Aratipu report due to go to the board next week.
"We would essentially set up our satellite programme which is here in south Auckland to accommodate a second team," said Atiga.
"So we are not talking about one team that plays in the MLR and then they come and play in Super Rugby - we are talking about two pro teams that would have equally competitive athletes at that level and we would own and operate them in co-ordination with each other," she said.
Former All Blacks and Wallabies skills coach Mick Byrne would be head coach with former All Black Tamati Ellison assistant coach.
I am vehemently opposed to an ethnic Franchise based in Auckland.
I am for splitting Auckland in two geographically.
But creating an Auckland franchise based on ethnicity, get the fuck out of my life.
France, Top 14 salary cap reduction.
France's Top 14 to drop salary cap by 12 percent
The French Top 14 will reduce its world-leading salary cap gradually over the next four years due to the impact of the coronavirus pandemic, Castres president Pierre-Yves Revol told AFP on Tuesday. The The 11.3-million-euro ($12.74 million) figure will drop by 12 percent to 9.94 million euros by the start of the 2021 season after club chiefs
That's still about 50 % higher than the English salary cap.
Pemiership announced it would reduce its own salary cap to £5 million ($6 million, 5.6 million euros), down from £6.4 million.
Successful Exeter, owner explaining the shut down of conferencing/events and hospitality is biting.
Exeter are actually also building a new hotel by their ground as well. Not sure if it is bad timing or good timing on that one. Good that it isnt complete and their missing out on income. Bad in that future of required hotel room numbers has changed for a few years.
The international level players in top clubs are going to be fucked by year's end
9 rounds with a fair few 4 day turn arounds>champions cup>finish 6N>tourny with Jap/?
"England’s leading players face the prospect of an endless winter with competitive top-level fixtures scheduled for 52 consecutive weekends once the Premiership season restarts on 14 August "
Plan for the most, hope for the best, but expect another unwanted holiday at some point.
I think you could make an argument for other props in this team. Tom Smith was good, but his reputation is based mainly on the 1997 Lions tour, and obviously he is Scottish.
Tbh. Until you pointed that out. I actually thought it was might mouse Scottish prop from 70s that geech picked, not mighty mousish from the 90s.
Yes. That's a bit underwhelming. Good player. But never at the time did I think I was watching the best player in history in his position. Was he the beat LHP of his decade? Debatable.
Geech coached him for 2 teams. Though.
Hill was a weapon. He's in that top bracket I reckon.
Leonard played test rugby for a long time and won a world cup, he doesn't look out of place.
Yeah. But Leonard was categorically never the best THP in the world, at any stage, even in his own era. IMO.
For a few years in the mid 90s you could put a case for him being best LHP.
He sticks out like dogs balls to me in an otherwise good team.
From a NH coach so posting here
Would be hard to beat
McGeechan's greatest rugby XV:
JPR Williams ( Wales ); John Kirwan ( New Zealand ) Brian O’Driscoll ( Ireland ), Phlippe Sella ( France ), Jonah Lomu ( New Zealand ); Dan Carter ( New Zealand ), Gareth Edwards ( Wales ); Tom Smith ( Scotland ), Sean Fitzpatrick ( New Zealand ), Jason Leonard ( England ); Martin Johnson ( England ), John Eales ( Australia ); Richard Hill ( England ), RIchie McCaw ( New Zealand ), Zinzan Brooke ( New Zealand )
That's one of the better ones I've seen to be fair
Weird one is Leonard, though. Not even in his strongest position, majority of career as loosehead.
Hill is a bit of a homer to for the target audience of the paper. But he was good. If you asked 50 former greats to pick an all time 15 probably all 50 would pick a different guy at 6, its that kind of position.