Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log
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Back and shoulders last night. Was feeling my leg doms so that made push pressing interesting. Wrist is getting better, feels like using it is helping rather than making it worse... I hope!!
Strict wide grip press. Sets of 6 from 30kg up to a couple of sets at 60kg. Push pressing between 70kg and 85kg. Going to work towards 90+ but given the hip niggles I've got time before I'll be doing any heavier overhead squats.
DB row and floor press combo next up. 30kg DB and sets of 8 each arm. 3 rounds of that. The weight was cake but it's the pressing motion that fires my wrist the most. So good to get some mahi done without going heavy.
Cable face pulls next. Using the rope attachment. 3 sets of those. Then light cable rear delt reverse flies. These are pretty technical wee buggers. But holy shit, when you get your form right they burn like a mofo. Especially when you rep them to failure and hold the last rep.
Sitting around 104kg which I'm happy with given my eating and sleep went to shit with the CWC. I was only kind of doing fasting during that time, and a few more takeaways. But back on track now.
Sore today after 3 days straight training. But feeling stronk!
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Scrubbed up ok after last weeks training. Wrist is still being a bitch but does seem to simmer down a bit when I'm training. As long as I really make sure to lock it during lifts etc. Slowly improving, don't mention rest!!
Biddies last night. Sets shoulders and Y and T's - have moved to 4kg DBs on the Y/T's - guaranteed to deliver a sick burn!
Flat bench. Warm up sets of 10 at 60kg and 80kg. Then into working sets. 2 sets of 80kg for 10, then 4 sets of 90kg for 10. Making sure I was keeping my wrist in a neutral position so sticking with a modest weight was the way to go. Made sure I did things at a decent clip so I was even puffing a bit at the end!!
Incline press. Sets of 6 at 60kg, 70kg and two sets at 80kg.
DB flies. 14kg DB. 3 sets of 12, going really wide and slow for the descent. At the end of each set we had the DB's pushed together for a close grip pulse kind of thing. Really squeezing the biddies to get that burn and pump going. It worked!!
Sitting at 104kg at the moment. Eating is going fine and fasting is back on track. My gym bro and I are looking at a cycle of creatine. He's chasing a bulk and I'm not opposed to putting on more lean muscle. But the hundy is still the goal - from there it'll transition to a bodyfat % in the low teens I reckon.
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@Paekakboyz said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
Scrubbed up ok after last weeks training. Wrist is still being a bitch but does seem to simmer down a bit when I'm training. As long as I really make sure to lock it during lifts etc. Slowly improving, don't mention rest!!
Biddies last night. Sets shoulders and Y and T's - have moved to 4kg DBs on the Y/T's - guaranteed to deliver a sick burn!
Flat bench. Warm up sets of 10 at 60kg and 80kg. Then into working sets. 2 sets of 80kg for 10, then 4 sets of 90kg for 10. Making sure I was keeping my wrist in a neutral position so sticking with a modest weight was the way to go. Made sure I did things at a decent clip so I was even puffing a bit at the end!!
Incline press. Sets of 6 at 60kg, 70kg and two sets at 80kg.
DB flies. 14kg DB. 3 sets of 12, going really wide and slow for the descent. At the end of each set we had the DB's pushed together for a close grip pulse kind of thing. Really squeezing the biddies to get that burn and pump going. It worked!!
Sitting at 104kg at the moment. Eating is going fine and fasting is back on track. My gym bro and I are looking at a cycle of creatine. He's chasing a bulk and I'm not opposed to putting on more lean muscle. But the hundy is still the goal - from there it'll transition to a bodyfat % in the low teens I reckon.
Thinking of going the creatine as well. Any tips on the best way to do it? Any potential downsides?
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@Rancid-Schnitzel my mate has more exp than I. From my reading its about getting that 5gm daily dose in for the cycle, drinking water and obviously training.
There is some talk about a pre loading approach then taking a lower daily amount. My mate doesn't rate that though. Reckons you waste some of the creatine as your body can only process so much. But I read the preload is a way to avoid as much weight increase.
So that's where we differ. He wants max bulk while I want lean muscle and minimise body fat.
Will let you know what we end up doing 👍
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@Paekakboyz said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
@Rancid-Schnitzel my mate has more exp than I. From my reading its about getting that 5gm daily dose in for the cycle, drinking water and obviously training.
There is some talk about a pre loading approach with a lower daily amount. My mate doesn't rate that though. Reckons you waste some of the creatine as your body can only process so much. But I read the preload is a way to avoid as much weight increase.
So that's where we differ. He wants max bulk while I want lean muscle and minimise body fat.
Will let you know what we end up doing 👍
Cool. Did it ages ago but just took the recommended amount if I could remember in the morning. Don't think it made much difference but obviously I wasn't paying much attention. I once got on the piss with a scientist and he reckoned creatine was the way to go.
My previous swimming coach also recommended those fat burner drinks. Haven't got around to getting any, but anything that burns fat and is recommended by a national level athlete should be worth a gander.
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Pretty sure we gave it a hoon in uni, but that was years ago now. The lifting guys I follow swear by it as the single best (legal and safe) option to build bulk and get stronger. I think you do need to be pretty disciplined with it for best effect.
Fat burners? would be interested in what your coach recommended. In my experience they all have certain ingredients that I'm not sure pro athletes should be taking ha ha. Haven't tried any of the current crop though, I'm sure there are a bunch of options that are clean and within doping rules.
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I think Creatines effects definitely depend on each individuals genetic makeup.
I remember a good mate of mine who I worked with had some at on his desk, he said not to touch it knowing full well that I would.....so he said at least try not to have too much.
Me being me I wanted to get ( more ) jacked quicker so I think I had about three or four times the recommended amount. ( a bit more bulk and definition in time for the weekend woulda been great ) but I'm pretty sure all it did was send me off to shit through the eye of a needle every 20 minutes or so much to his amusement.
I'm not sure it actually did too much when I splashed out and bought some. I find I get more gains sticking to the fasting and getting lots of protein in.
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@MN5 😂😂 he probably swapped it out for a laxative knowing you'd hungus it!!
We'll sort proper dosage and a plan (of sorts!) to follow. Sounds like water intake and training enough are the big factors. Did read that you can expect strength and endurance gains in 7-10 days. Oh yeah!
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@Paekakboyz said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
@MN5 😂😂 he probably swapped it out for a laxative knowing you'd hungus it!!
We'll sort proper dosage and a plan (of sorts!) to follow. Sounds like water intake and training enough are the big factors. Did read that you can expect strength and endurance gains in 7-10 days. Oh yeah!
Now I think about it this is not beyond the realms of possibility.
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@Paekakboyz said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
@MN5 especially if he was a good mate! Ha ha
I'm on the fern. None of us have anything other than casual acquaintances......
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https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/186/hydroxycut/18
Same bullshit discussion ten years ago.....wow. I really need to get a life.
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@Paekakboyz said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
@MN5 far out. That's some time capsule shit bro!!
I can only assume you were too busy partying to join the discussion haha
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when i had to stack on weight for rugby i used to do blocks of it in the off season. It's a fair fucking way back now (ie probably older than that thread that was just dug up) but i seem to remember having to be pretty strict about booze and caffeine?
Worked though. I think.
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@mariner4life said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
when i had to stack on weight for rugby i used to do blocks of it in the off season. It's a fair fucking way back now (ie probably older than that thread that was just dug up) but i seem to remember having to be pretty strict about booze and caffeine?
Worked though. I think.
That was me fucked then.
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@MN5 said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
@mariner4life said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
when i had to stack on weight for rugby i used to do blocks of it in the off season. It's a fair fucking way back now (ie probably older than that thread that was just dug up) but i seem to remember having to be pretty strict about booze and caffeine?
Worked though. I think.
That was me fucked then.
i didn't drink anywhere near as much coffee then. And was motivated enough to get off the beer. but yeah, it sucked.
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@mariner4life said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
@MN5 said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
@mariner4life said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
when i had to stack on weight for rugby i used to do blocks of it in the off season. It's a fair fucking way back now (ie probably older than that thread that was just dug up) but i seem to remember having to be pretty strict about booze and caffeine?
Worked though. I think.
That was me fucked then.
i didn't drink anywhere near as much coffee then. And was motivated enough to get off the beer. but yeah, it sucked.
I do think like anything much of it comes down to the individual and his/her metabolism, genetic makeup etc.
Much like the bullshit pre workout supplements I used to get off my mate when he ran the store in town. Some of them literally made my skin prickle but one in particular made me feel like I could have shoulder pressed a car.
I think it got made illegal. Stink.
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@MN5 that sort of stuff is still around. Beta something is the stuff that gives you the tingles, but it does zero for performance aside from knowing it's taken effect. The other ingredients give you the grunt.
We find C4 works well, but JackeD was the old school go-to. You could easily go clubbing on that shit. Pure rocket fuel ha ha. Pretty sure it had that old night and day cold medicine stuff in it.
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@Paekakboyz said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
@MN5 that sort of stuff is still around. Beta something is the stuff that gives you the tingles, but it does zero for performance aside from knowing it's taken effect. The other ingredients give you the grunt.
We find C4 works well, but JackeD was the old school go-to. You could easily go clubbing on that shit. Pure rocket fuel ha ha. Pretty sure it had that old night and day cold medicine stuff in it.
I think it was called the Curse from memory ?