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<p>And Jeggas favourite beardo gets elected Labour leader.<br><br>
The thing is I'm not convinced he's unelectable in this day and age. If the economy goes south and the Tories do something stupid then his fleece the rich, more handouts policies could get him over the line.<br><br>
Hope Im wrong there but if Qld can vote in a functioning retard like Pallachook then anything can happen.</p>
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<p>Of course he's electable. I've seen a number of his speeches and he comes across very well despite the rubbish in the media.</p>
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<p>And especially compared to Miliband who came across as weird he is a million times more electable.</p>
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<p>And a lot of his policy ideas are supported by the majority of voters</p>
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<p>Dropping the idea of a balanced budget. Sensible and economically sound. Especially using QE to finance more needed housing</p>
<p>Not selling off state owned assets and buying back some assets like railways and major utilities.</p>
<p>Not becoming involved in pointless wars</p>
<p>Having doubts about the EU</p>
<p>Dropping student fees</p>
<p>Scrap Britain's nuclear weapons</p>
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<p>Generally he wants to make Britain (and the world) a fairer and more caring society with opportunities for all not just the rich.</p>
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<p>But the propaganda media will lie and lie and lie about Corbyn. We can't have someone leading the UK with these dreadful views. It might start a disease that spreads to other countries.</p> -
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<p>Were the twitter warriors and leftard activists really chanting "Jez we can"?It would need a Greece style meltdown to see him win if he manages to last till the next election . It's quite alarming to see such a large group of people so out of touch with reality. I read somewhere that Cameron is further emasculating the unions over there and since no one in their right mind us going to donate to a party in which so many of its best mps have refused to be part of a shadow cabinet led by the beardo I'm guessing they won't have a lot of money to campaign with in 2020. I see the standard are engaging in a frothing self congratulatory circle jerk over the result and hoping it means the same thing might happen here. I hope so too hahahahaha<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11859233/The-day-the-Labour-Party-died.html">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11859233/The-day-the-Labour-Party-died.html</a></p>
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<p>Comparing the UK to Greece is economic ignorance. Although not as bad as clowns who compare Zimbabwe or Wiemar Germany to any Govt today who does a small amount of "money printing".</p> -
I'll most probably regret this, but could you please tell me what lies the "propoganda" media have brainwashed us with about Corbyn? <br><br>
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If you read my post I didn't compare the Uk to Greece. <br><br>
As for belief that Corbyn is electable I now know why you support red peak . Only 20 of his mps support him because they think they have no chance of ever being in govt with a weirdo like Corbyn in charge . The older ones probably remember what life was like when Michael Foot was around . His open borders ideas have probably handed UKIP a lifeline at the expense of more labour votes especially on light of the hordes of " refugees " trying to force their way into Europe.<br><br>
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<p>I'll most probably regret this, but could you please tell me what lies the "propoganda" media have brainwashed us with about Corbyn?<br><br>
But yes I agree that he wants a more equitable Britain. A Britain where every person is as poor as the other.</p>
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<p>Like his economic policies will destroy the country for a start. Just idiotic nonsense.</p>
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<p>And why do you think his policies like for example building more desperately needed homes or staying the f++k out of pointless wars will make people poorer. Or not selling off Govt assets on the cheap?</p>
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I'll most probably regret this, but could you please tell me what lies the "propoganda" media have brainwashed us with about Corbyn? <br><br>
But yes I agree that he wants a more equitable Britain. A Britain where every person is as poor as the other.</p></blockquote> -
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I'll most probably regret this, but could you please tell me what lies the "propoganda" media have brainwashed us with about Corbyn? <br>
But yes I agree that he wants a more equitable Britain. A Britain where every person is as poor as the other.</p></blockquote></blockquote>
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<p>If you read my post I didn't compare the Uk to Greece.<br><br>
As for belief that Corbyn is electable I now know why you support red peak . Only 20 of his mps support him because they think they have no chance of ever being in govt with a weirdo like Corbyn in charge . The older ones probably remember what life was like when Michael Foot was around . His open borders ideas have probably handed UKIP a lifeline at the expense of more labour votes especially on light of the hordes of " refugees " trying to force their way into Europe.<br><br>
But just like the flag thread I fully expect you to stick your fingers in your ears and say " I'm right and despite crushing evidence to the contrary you're all wrong ".</p>
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<p>There's a differences between EU citizens and refugees. Corbyn is pro the UK accepting more refugees. Or at least not demonizing them.</p>
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<p>I think UKIP is mainly pissed off about the open borders EU policy. But unless the UK leave the EU and close their borders (which would mean leaving the single market whihc will not happen even if the EU vote to leave) nothing much can be done about this fact of life.</p>
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Like his economic policies will destroy the country for a start. Just idiotic nonsense.<br><br>
And why do you think his policies like for example building more desperately needed homes or staying the f++k out of pointless wars will make people poorer. Or not selling off Govt assets on the cheap?<br><br>
Or do you just believe anything you read in the papers without even thinking about it?</p></blockquote>
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That's such a weak answer, raise taxes to the levels he wants and watch the money leave the Uk, add emotive words like " desperate" and insinuate that all the assets were sold on the cheap . -
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<p>That's such a weak answer, raise taxes to the levels he wants and watch the money leave the Uk, add emotive words like " desperate" and insinuate that all the assets were sold on the cheap .</p>
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<p>The housing situation is getting bad. And is projected to get much worse unless there is massive house building. Or do you not think so?</p> -
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There's a differences between EU citizens and refugees. Corbyn is pro the UK accepting more refugees. Or at least not demonizing them.<br><br>
I think UKIP is mainly pissed off about the open borders EU policy. But unless the UK leave the EU and close their borders (which would mean leaving the single market whihc will not happen even if the EU vote to leave) nothing much can be done about this fact of life.<br><br>
But what were you referring to?</p></blockquote>
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Huh? The UKIP want to leave the EU , I'd imagine there are plenty of labour voters who are horrified by the thought of masses of people turning up unchecked prepared to work for lower wages . Not everyone is as right on as you and Corbyn . -
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The housing situation is getting bad. And is projected to get much worse unless there is massive house building. Or do you not think so?</p></blockquote>
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<p>Yes, yes more state intervention at taxpayers expense is the answrr to everything .</p>
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<p>Not at the taxpayers expense</p>
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<p>He intends to fund it using interest free central bank reserves. And then the taxpayers get to own a valuable asset that if they want they could sell in the future for likely a lot more than the building cost</p>
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<p>It's sensible and economically sound (NZ after the 30 did likewise to build the country) yet some have been told in the papers that's its a bad idea so don't think and just assume it must be right</p> -
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<p>Huh? The UKIP want to leave the EU , I'd imagine there are plenty of labour voters who are horrified by the thought of masses of people turning up unchecked prepared to work for lower wages . Not everyone is as right on as you and Corbyn .</p>
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But what were you referring to. Refugees or EU citizens?</p></blockquote>
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Both, refugees who get eu citizenship in another country and head to thd uk.<br><br>
It's interesting that you enjoy taking positions like your devotion to Alby Matthewson, red peak and Cofbyn who's politics are at least 30 years behind pretty much everyone else in the west and keep saying you're right and everyone else is wrong no matter what evidence is presented to you. Senior labour figures in the Uk pleaded with labour members not to vote for Corbyn saying it was electoral suicide , but no Winger is right everyone else is wrong . <br><br>
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Like his economic policies will destroy the country for a start. Just idiotic nonsense.<br><br>
And why do you think his policies like for example building more desperately needed homes or staying the f++k out of pointless wars will make people poorer. Or not selling off Govt assets on the cheap?<br><br>
Or do you just believe anything you read in the papers without even thinking about it?</p></blockquote>
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Yep sorry I asked.<br><br>
If you honestly believe these policies work, please google Venezuela.But no doubt that will all be media propaganda as well. -
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The housing situation is getting bad. And is projected to get much worse unless there is massive house building. Or do you not think so?</p></blockquote>
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Where is this massive house building going to take place? EnviroNazis like Corbyn mourn the loss of a single tree let alone vast tracts of forest. And his completely open door immigration policy is hardly going to help the housing shortage.<br><br>
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<p>Not at the taxpayers expense</p>
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<p>Sorry mate, I get the feeling you don't have a clue about the realities of the money markets, which decide things like interest and exchange rates. There's no free money, and everything that is not paid for by private money is by definition at the taxpayers' expense. It's just a matter of when the taxpayer picks up the tab, not if.</p>
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<p>Sorry mate, I get the feeling you don't have a clue about the realities of the money markets, which decide things like interest and exchange rates. There's no free money, and everything that is not paid for by private money is by definition at the taxpayers' expense. It's just a matter of when the taxpayer picks up the tab, not if.</p>
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<p>Oh, and there isn't really a housing shortage in the UK is there, just in the South East. </p>
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<p>I understand what money is and how the UK treasury pay their bills. You don't based on this comment. .</p>
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<p>And your comment re investing in housing is idiotic. It's not spending on welfare so that the poor can afford to eat and pay for their power etc. This is another topic to debate. It's investing in a valuable asset that will almost certainly increase in value over time.</p>
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<p>But the brainwashed have been convinced that a company or person running up debt is OK if this debt finance is invested wisely. But not the Govt doing the same re housing. Even though the UK Govt's deficit spending can be financed by zero interest BoE reserves. This is just a fact as is being done INDIRECTLY by QE.</p>
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