Coronavirus - Overall
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What an ignorant tosser Barnes is.
Assuming Bale earns £15m a year, his 500k donation is 1/30th of his income - the equivalent of an average bloke on an average wage donating £1,000.
It's an impressive donation from Bale regardless of how you measure it.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
The come and get tested website has crashed on its first morning. Didn't see that coming.
TBF, I hear it's been difficult this far to get people to book & use drive-in testing using available capacity when it's been offered at hospitals and care homes
So they may be pleased they have cracked that little problem....
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
The come and get tested website has crashed on its first morning. Didn't see that coming.
TBF, I hear it's been difficult this far to get people to book & use drive-in testing using available capacity when it's been offered at hospitals and care homes
So they may be pleased they have cracked that little problem....
Small steps?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
What an ignorant tosser Barnes is.
Assuming Bale earns £15m a year, his 500k donation is 1/30th of his income - the equivalent of an average bloke on an average wage donating £1,000.
It's an impressive donation from Bale regardless of how you measure it.
Yep.
And Bale did the same in Spain.
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
The come and get tested website has crashed on its first morning. Didn't see that coming.
TBF, I hear it's been difficult this far to get people to book & use drive-in testing using available capacity when it's been offered at hospitals and care homes
So they may be pleased they have cracked that little problem....
Small steps?
15,000 extra tests booked according to the BBC - 10k drive-thru tests booked and 5k home kits ordered
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Stuart Barnes proves how much of a c*nt he is
Fatty #### Barnes should talk less shit and eat less food. The resulting savings to his wife's weekly shopping bill should be donated to the NHS and would keep his local hospital going for a month.
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@sparky said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Fatty #### Barnes should tall less shit and eat less food. The resulting savings to his wife's weekly shopping bill should be donated to the NHS and would keep his local hospital going for a month.
You bastard. Think of the food industry & supermarket jobs lost if Barnes went on a diet
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Overall:
The come and get tested website has crashed on its first morning. Didn't see that coming.
TBF, I hear it's been difficult this far to get people to book & use drive-in testing using available capacity when it's been offered at hospitals and care homes
So they may be pleased they have cracked that little problem....
Small steps?
15,000 extra tests booked according to the BBC - 10k drive-thru tests booked and 5k home kits ordered
Saw it reported that no crash, just all daily slots (which?) taken.
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Been trying to sum up the utterly crass and inane questions that get asked at the daily press conferences until this popped into my FB feed...
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The struggle is real for many:-
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@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
The Economist compares current death rates to average death rates in a lot of places. A lot of places have an unexplained increase in deaths due to an unknown source which the Economist thinks is probably the current epidemic.
What isn't really publicised is the number of deaths which weren't caused biologically by CV, but were caused by lack of medical treatment because of CV.
One could say because of the pandemic, but not of CV.
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
The Economist compares current death rates to average death rates in a lot of places. A lot of places have an unexplained increase in deaths due to an unknown source which the Economist thinks is probably the current epidemic.
What isn't really publicised is the number of deaths which weren't caused biologically by CV, but were caused by lack of medical treatment because of CV.
One could say because of the pandemic, but not of CV.
Agree, although I guess that still serves to illustrate the danger of CV - not that it's particularly dangerous in most individual instances but that it can overwhelm most health systems with volumes of infections, leading to more deaths than the individual cases would normally suggest.
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
The Economist compares current death rates to average death rates in a lot of places. A lot of places have an unexplained increase in deaths due to an unknown source which the Economist thinks is probably the current epidemic.
What isn't really publicised is the number of deaths which weren't caused biologically by CV, but were caused by lack of medical treatment because of CV.
One could say because of the pandemic, but not of CV.
I don't think it makes much difference does it? Whether they are Covid victims directly or as a result of not enough facilities to treat other illnesses that are normally treatable. Good statistics would help, but that seems unlikely in the middle of a pandemic.
I think it's important also to factor in that in perfect conditions with sufficient medical resources very few people would die of the virus. That is not the death rate that is of concern, it is probably less than 1%. The concern is those who would be treated but can't be because of lack of capacity.
My view is that this is what people who talk about the flu death rate are missing. Yes the pure death rates are similar with both viruses, but the hospitalisation rates are not similar.
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@Damo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Godder said in Coronavirus - Overall:
The Economist compares current death rates to average death rates in a lot of places. A lot of places have an unexplained increase in deaths due to an unknown source which the Economist thinks is probably the current epidemic.
What isn't really publicised is the number of deaths which weren't caused biologically by CV, but were caused by lack of medical treatment because of CV.
One could say because of the pandemic, but not of CV.
I don't think it makes much difference does it? Whether they are Covid victims directly or as a result of not enough facilities to treat other illnesses that are normally treatable. Good statistics would help, but that seems unlikely in the middle of a pandemic.
I think it's important also to factor in that in perfect conditions with sufficient medical resources very few people would die of the virus. That is not the death rate that is of concern, it is probably less than 1%. The concern is those who would be treated but can't be because of lack of capacity.
My view is that this is what people who talk about the flu death rate are missing. Yes the pure death rates are similar with both viruses, but the hospitalisation rates are not similar.
It's not that clear that hospitalisation is very effective. In particular, ventilation has been shown to be a poor treatment. CPAP and proning seems much more effective. What is the case is that CV is very tough on the elderly, perhaps the straw which breaks the camel's back.
And the fear tactics of most countires' campaigns is clearly causing big problems, both for acute and chronic sufferors of other diseases.
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Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. REGN -3.30% and Sanofi SA SNY 1.56% said Monday they will shut down part of a study exploring whether their arthritis therapy could treat certain hospitalized Covid-19 patients because the drug looked unlikely to help them.
An early look at ongoing trial results indicated the therapy, named Kevzara, wasn’t helping patients who were hospitalized with a severe form of Covid-19 but don’t require a ventilator’s assistance with breathing, the companies said.
The study will continue, however, for an even sicker set of hospitalized Covid-19 patients who require the help of ventilators or other high-flow oxygen support, the companies said.
In the second, sicker group of patients, the drug showed a relatively small potential benefit over placebo—substances with no actual pharmaceutical effect—though that will need to be confirmed in the ongoing study, the companies said. Results are expected in June.
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In a stunning display of what a lockdown can achieve in the short term:
Vietnam has reported just two new infections in the last 10 days, both students who returned from Japan last week. The country of more than 95 million people hasn’t reported a single death from the virus. Most of its 270 confirmed cases have recovered.
Crucial to preventing a large outbreak in Vietnam was an aggressive quarantine regime that involved housing tens of thousands of people in military barracks, university dormitories and other state-run centers. When a person was confirmed to be infected, many of their close contacts, including those showing no symptoms, were quarantined in state-run facilities or hospitals rather than their homes where they might infect elderly family members.
All those who returned to the country from overseas in the last month were also required to stay in these places for 14 days.
In early April, when the country had reported less than 250 cases, nearly 45,000 people were quarantined in government facilities. That number is now down to about 11,000, while just over 40,000 are isolated in their homes, comprising largely of the contacts of a confirmed patient’s close contacts.
The system relies on contact tracing to identify all those an infected person may have exposed. Health authorities publish widely read details of the person’s activities on government websites, newspapers and social media, for instance which restaurant they visited and how much time they spent
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@antipodean I'd have serious questions about the reliability of their testing and their autopsy procedures.
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