Coronavirus - Australia
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@ACT-Crusader said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@Kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life at least the Highlanders are wi....oh...at least the swans are wi....never mind
I got a rare treble last weekend - Crusaders, Saints, Warriors - that latter two is what makes it rare...
FTFY
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@mariner4life 3rd on the ladder with a healthy percentage thank you very much. And I can’t even take my 6yo who asks me, are we going to be able to watch the Saints Dad?
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@mariner4life possibly, if Labour stay in, I'm not sure they have a plan or if thier plan is the status quo...
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@ACT-Crusader said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life 3rd on the ladder with a healthy percentage thank you very much. And I can’t even take my 6yo who asks me, are we going to be able to watch the Saints Dad?
2020 is a fucking weird year...
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life or NZ, but it is a sad reality.
I think it is only a matter of time before it gets back out in NZ, we have been very lucky so far with the breaches we have had.
Maybe Govt's are banking on something being available by year end, if not, then re-evaluate?
With no supply or manufacturing secured for vaccine candidates, it will be some time before anything is available in NZ.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life possibly, if Labour stay in, I'm not sure they have a plan or if thier plan is the status quo...
that will get old if the rest of the world starts getting on with it, and kiwis are still stuck in their bubble
absolutely the same goes for here.
anecdotally, we already have inquiries from European tourism agents wondering when we will be up and running again. Their tourism sector is moving again already, and they are struggling to wrap their head around us telling them we have no date to give.
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@Tim said in Coronavirus - Australia:
With no supply or manufacturing secured for vaccine candidates, it will be some time before anything is available in NZ.
dont need to tell me, it's our Govt that needs to know these kinds of things, as it seems they have no plan B
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@mariner4life nobody would’ve ever predicted that at any point in the season, the Saints would be the only Melbourne team in the top 4.
Just on the curfew issue, it does seem a little left field, arbitrary and even OTT, but I was talking to a friend who is a cop down here and they were getting lots of calls from “concerned citizens” about parties, big social gatherings, noise etc from particular hot spot communities.
The late night KFC runs are now off the table 😉
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
stay strong Vic ferners. This will suck. Especially because you can see other states at the pub, or watching your sports teams.
I have a sneaky suspicion Qld will close its borders again this week
No new cases today, but concerns about Mexicans crossing the border!
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@ACT-Crusader said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
stay strong Vic ferners. This will suck. Especially because you can see other states at the pub, or watching your sports teams.
I have a sneaky suspicion Qld will close its borders again this week
No new cases today, but concerns about Mexicans crossing the border!
build a wall!
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I couldn’t stop laughing yesterday watching the SA govt update. Two new cases and the Chief Health official said “it’s been a very busy weekend for my team”. So what do they do, apply restrictions. Two new cases???????
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@ACT-Crusader said in Coronavirus - Australia:
I couldn’t stop laughing yesterday watching the SA govt update. Two new cases and the Chief Health official said “it’s been a very busy weekend for my team”. So what do they do, apply restrictions. Two new cases???????
ridiculous wasn't it?
Last night at the footy they had 20,000. Today, they can only have 10,000. Because of 2 new cases.
FMD. It's like they felt left out.
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
as an indicator of how serious this is, it is expected 1 in 7 people in Victoria (or melbourne, i can't remember which) will be out of a job by next week.
This will be a bitter pill to swallow. Businesses that already got through 2 months of no turnover, then 2 months of limited turnover, now have to shut the doors again. The toll that will take on people will be enormous.
Also people can't exist on limited wages indefinitely. We're already at 4 months, Victorians will be for months and months after this.
And just to muddy the waters, the WHO have now come out and said there may never be a vaccine, ad certainly won't be a silver bullet vaccine that gets us all out of this. So how does that affect government thinking?
Some of them have abrogated their responsibility to unelected officials so the smarter politicians take control of the narrative and reposition according to the updated information from the WHO and the realisation that we may have to live with this virus - i.e. focus on minimising harm to the aged.
This will inevitably mean they will hang some public servants out to dry. CHOs shouldn't be visible anyway - they're there to give advice to Ministers, not make pronouncements about which suburbs can leave their homes ffs.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
the WHO have now come out and said there may never be a vaccine, ad certainly won't be a silver bullet vaccine that gets us all out of this. So how does that affect government thinking?
yep, governments need to be looking at a plan to live WITH the Virus.
Man, we have been beating that drum on this forum for a while now. I have to believe these discussions are happening within NZ and Australian government, but there certainly are no signs of their thinking being communicated to Joe public. As I've said previously, at the minimum there should be lots of consultation with the most affected industries, eg tourism, universities, property dev etc, all of whom could be actively repurposing, recutting strategy, or at worst shutting down (rather than sucking public funds for no gain) but it sounds like that isn't happening either.
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We've always known that there might not be a vaccine though. It's just empty rhetoric from the likes of Trump that had anyone thinking otherwise.
there's lots of contemporaneous work going on to develop effective treatments that allow us to live successfully with the virus. That's what I am hoping anyway.
@mariner4life where'd you get that figure from 15% unemployment seems like a sudden jump. they're hoping here to keep it at more like 10-12. I guess we will find out when the subsidies end. - and in the months after that.
i did read today that heavy vehicle kms travelled is actually up in NZ for the last mth cf 2019. A KPI that is usually a good indicator of economic activity
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life where'd you get that figure from 15% unemployment seems like a sudden jump. they're hoping here to keep it at more like 10-12. I guess we will find out when the subsidies end. - and in the months after that
heard it on the news on the way to work. Based on hospo, retail, and a significantly restricted construction industry
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@mariner4life These are monoclonal antibodies that will be produced in bioreactors similar to fermenters. When administered to infected monkeys, they blocked viral replication at least as well as current vaccine candidates. i.e. they would be something that could be given to infected people to stop them developing serious symptoms, and stop producing more virus in their bodies.