Coronavirus - UK
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - UK:
What does Tier 2 mean for you guys? Curfews, takeaway only etc? Kids still at school? Can you go into the office?
No inside household mixing is the big thing.
What does that even mean??? You all come home and go straight to your rooms???
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - UK:
What does Tier 2 mean for you guys? Curfews, takeaway only etc? Kids still at school? Can you go into the office?
No inside household mixing is the big thing.
Re-read, I assume it means no intra-house mixing. Different families.
Yeah?
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - UK:
What does Tier 2 mean for you guys? Curfews, takeaway only etc? Kids still at school? Can you go into the office?
No inside household mixing is the big thing.
Re-read, I assume it means no intra-house mixing. Different families.
Yeah?
Inter. But yeah.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - UK:
What does Tier 2 mean for you guys? Curfews, takeaway only etc? Kids still at school? Can you go into the office?
No inside household mixing is the big thing.
Re-read, I assume it means no intra-house mixing. Different families.
Yeah?
Summed up my marriage.
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As speculated about a month or so back, Wales to go to 2-week full National Lockdown this coming Friday (23rd).
I can't wait for Drakeford to fuck off back to teaching woodwork at his local comp.
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A succinct op-ed on the confusion of COVID
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@MiketheSnow I got about halfway through before giving up. Does this douche live his life to go and find loopholes and moan about them? Pretty sad.
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
A succinct op-ed on the confusion of COVID
This is what happens when a government, facing heavy opposition on every single decision it can possibly make (and it must make these decisions) try to maintain some sort of balance to the lockdown / economy ledger. There is literally no easy way out, no pleasing more than 30% of people way out and no rules which will not get mocked mercilessly.
Can't go in the same taxi? Greens - bad for the environment, Anti-lockdown - will prevent people going out, Pro-lockdown - pay the taxi drivers 80% to stay at home, no need for them to work, people can drive, Media- further proof that the government cannot communicate & thus why should we listen to them?
It's so easy for internet twerps to make these little video's about the confusion, but where is the British trait of pulling together & trying to overcome this thing?
When you are in a plane nosediving, should the people really be asking the pilot why he made such a bad decision 20 minutes ago?
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Detail is not lazy, fat, poshboy Boris Johnson's thing and under pressure of the crisis he has turned out to be a remarkably poor strategic thinker and a weak communicator too.
The UK public are almost all doing their very best to contain the spread of the virus and maintain some sort of economic normality, but they are not helped by the incoherence and ambiguities in the UK public health policy.
I can't remember a single memorable thing Johnson has said in months but whenever he comes on the TV I think of this piece of genius from Matt Lucas:
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@sparky said in Coronavirus - UK:
The UK public are almost all doing their very best to contain the spread of the virus and maintain some sort of economic normality, but they are not helped by the incoherence and ambiguities in the UK public health policy.
That this is posted almost directly after the shithouse video before it makes it even more laughable. The cherry on top being using Matt Lucas to try and help your point.
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@sparky said in Coronavirus - UK:
More genius from Matt Lucas:
As much as I am pissed off with the seemingly UK response to bitch about everything and moan about the government, as opposed to using common sense & interpreting the rules with more than one brain cell .... this is very good.
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MajorRage imagine if people decided to catch separate taxis instead of being dickheads just because there's no specific rule to cater for every fucking possible scenario.
The only way to resolve all the conflicts is 100% lockdown. No essential services, nothing. You can't go out. End Of.
A tactic which I think, many people would actually support!
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Bones said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MajorRage imagine if people decided to catch separate taxis instead of being dickheads just because there's no specific rule to cater for every fucking possible scenario.
The only way to resolve all the conflicts is 100% lockdown. No essential services, nothing. You can't go out. End Of.
A tactic which I think, many people would actually support!
But would be very unfair on South London, the South Coast, the South West, East Anglia and the Scottish Highlands where there is very little COVID.
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@sparky said in Coronavirus - UK:
Can someone explain to me Manchester Mayor, Andy Burnham's objections to Tier 3? As far as I can discern, he doesn't want to introduce Tier 3 as he wants the government to come up with a more severe set of restrictions?!
He wants more money from the government to pop up the lower incomes.
@sparky said in Coronavirus - UK:
But would be very unfair on South London, the South Coast, the South West, East Anglia and the Scottish Highlands where there is very little COVID.
Which is my overarching point. Every possible scenario has huge support & equally huge opposition. Boris can't bluster his way out of this one, it's simply not possible.
Your next question should be, so what would you do then Mr Rage?
The first thing I would do is abandon the 10pm curfew thing. I get where they were coming from, but it simply hasn't worked - there is overwhelming evidence of this. I would also assure that there will be nothing national going forwards. Regional changes only. I will also look at all data points and changes before making restrictions changes. I.e - you don't lockdown further on changes in the right direction, and vice versa. I'd publish all the reasonings behind all decisions and stand by them. I'd vow to never lockdown schools unless scientific evidence changed to show that children were being significantly affected and passing it on. Then I'd make sure that I was on top of the CMO / CSO to ensure we were all projecting the same message.
Oh, and I'd also start subtley digging into people that the NHS wasn't going to remain free.
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
@sparky said in Coronavirus - UK:
Can someone explain to me Manchester Mayor, Andy Burnham's objections to Tier 3? As far as I can discern, he doesn't want to introduce Tier 3 as he wants the government to come up with a more severe set of restrictions?!
He wants more money from the government to pop up the lower incomes.
@sparky said in Coronavirus - UK:
But would be very unfair on South London, the South Coast, the South West, East Anglia and the Scottish Highlands where there is very little COVID.
Which is my overarching point. Every possible scenario has huge support & equally huge opposition. Boris can't bluster his way out of this one, it's simply not possible.
Your next question should be, so what would you do then Mr Rage?
The first thing I would do is abandon the 10pm curfew thing. I get where they were coming from, but it simply hasn't worked - there is overwhelming evidence of this. I would also assure that there will be nothing national going forwards. Regional changes only. I will also look at all data points and changes before making restrictions changes. I.e - you don't lockdown further on changes in the right direction, and vice versa. I'd publish all the reasonings behind all decisions and stand by them. I'd vow to never lockdown schools unless scientific evidence changed to show that children were being significantly affected and passing it on. Then I'd make sure that I was on top of the CMO / CSO to ensure we were all projecting the same message.
Oh, and I'd also start subtley digging into people that the NHS wasn't going to remain free.
Better to prohibit indoor mingling between households, other than to have food at a table in cafe, pub or restaurant. Limit six per table. Last orders midnight.
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1/3 more deaths at home during the 'pandemic'
Shuffling the deck? Avoidable?
No clear answers.
Between 28 December 2019 and 11 September 2020 the number of deaths in private homes in Wales was 7,440.
This was 1,624 deaths more than the five-year average for the same period.
Total deaths from COVID in Wales, 1722.