The Artist Formerly Known As ... RIP
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<p>Context.<br><br>
Modern music would be very different without (esp) Beatles and to a lesser extent the Stones<br><br>
It's quite probable whoever you do like wouldn't exist without those 2 groups.<br><br>
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<p>I do hear that to some extent, it's just that lyrics like "Love, love me do, you know I love you" and "Jumpin Jack flash it's a gas gas gas" don't inspire much awe in me. Groups of that era like the Who, Cream, the Animals and the Kinks did it for me more than they did.</p>
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<p>I do hear that to some extent, it's just that lyrics like "Love, love me do, you know I love you" and "Jumpin Jack flash it's a gas gas gas" don't inspire much awe in me. Groups of that era like the Who, Cream, the Animals and the Kinks did it for me more than they did.</p>
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<p>I'm sure plenty will jump on here and attack me but it's ok, the interweb can't hurt me.</p>
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<p>Each to their own. There are plenty out there who think Bieber is up there with the best artists ever.</p>
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<p>I'll give it to Prince that he was one of the rare few who actually had music who appealed across pretty much so every genre - certainly part of his amazing multi-talent.</p>
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<p>I just don't agree that because he was extremely multi talented, he deserves to be ranked amongst, if not higher, than the very best of each of those talents.</p> -
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<p>I do hear that to some extent, it's just that lyrics like "Love, love me do, you know I love you" and "Jumpin Jack flash it's a gas gas gas" don't inspire much awe in me. Groups of that era like the Who, Cream, the Animals and the Kinks did it for me more than they did.</p>
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<p><strong>I'm sure plenty will jump on here and attack me but it's ok, the interweb can't hurt me.</strong></p>
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<p>I'm not going to attack you, just sit back and laugh at your lunacy. ;)</p>
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<p>I do hear that to some extent, it's just that lyrics like "Love, love me do, you know I love you" </p>
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<p>So, as an example of the Beatles' lyrics, you pick out their first ever single, a song written by McCartney when he was 16. Seems fair. No cherry picking there.</p> -
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<p>Sometimes music fans forget that we don't have to select a World Gat XV to play a gig against Mars.<br><br>
I neither know nor care whether Prince was the 1st, 5th, 12th, or 53,689th best guitarist in rock history. I just know that I like some of his songs, and that he's bloody good at playing songs on the guitar and at singing them. Unlike rugby, we don't have to pick The Best Drummer to take on the Wallabies...<br><br>
There are some amazingly talented and technical guitarists out there. There are also some great four chord songs. One of my favourite rock/pop songs features the lead guitarist on a mandolin. Technically it may be a different league to Clapton or whoever, but my ears could care less.<br><br>
RIP Prince and thanks for the great songs to listen to.</p>
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<p>Personally, one of my favorite songs features the lead guitarist on a harp (the bassist learnt the Mandolin for another song on the album), but I would put the same lead guitarist up with the very best.</p>
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<p>So, as an example of the Beatles' lyrics, you pick out their first ever single, a song written by McCartney when he was 16. Seems fair. No cherry picking there.</p>
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<p>If you feel so inclined you can bounce back with awesome lyrics about yellow submarines, walrus's or someone called Jude but don't bank on me seeing the light and changing my mind.</p> -
<p>Most pop lyrics from the 50's & 60's are woefully bad, its the music that set them apart. Its hard now to appreciate the "holy shitballs! what is the new thing I am hearing!!" impact of the Stones & the Beatles. Ditto the disco era 70's. Its why "artists" are forever sampling guys like Bee Jees. Because the underlying music is so good. The lyrics... not so much.</p>
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<p>Tho' thats true today of both lyrics & music. Most pop music has abysmal lyrics and just by listing to the music you'd struggle to tell most apart. In contrast you could instantly tell Beatles from Stones purely from the underlying music. I'd argue Crowded House had a period there where they combined the music with some really good lyrics. But not a very long period.... </p>
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<p>Prince was legendary largely because he could write incredibly catchy tunes (shit like Raspberry Beret"), and also staggeringly good lyrics (eg Sign o the Times). And then play all the instruments. And then perform them in a 2 hour show that would literally put every other act to shame.</p>
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<p>Clapton or Knoffler could play guitar like a god while stood rock still staring at the sky concentrating. Prince could do the same while dry humping 2 backing singers standing on a piano. One of which would need to take the morning after pill as a result.</p>
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<p>The backing singer. Not the piano.</p>
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<p>It's all subjective as someone mentioned before, I guess I just took a bit of offense to MajorRage having a go at Prince lyrically, part of me wants to point out that he sold a very respectful 100 million albums ( with very few in the last 20 or so years ) but that can be argued with some horrific artists who have also sold loads ( case in point, Beiber )</p>
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<p>It's all subjective as someone mentioned before, I guess I just took a bit of offense to MajorRage having a go at Prince lyrically, part of me wants to point out that he sold a very respectful 100 million albums ( with very few in the last 20 or so years ) but that can be argued with some horrific artists who have also sold loads ( case in point, Beiber )</p>
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<p>And that's almost my whole point. I didn't have a go at him, quite the opposite. I just don't agree that he's the bestest at everything, ever. Which this thread would have you believe.</p>
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<p>Looks like Prince may have been a heavy user of opiates for decades and this contributed to his demise</p>
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Sometimes music fans forget that we don't have to select a World Gat XV to play a gig against Mars. <br><br>
I neither know nor care whether Prince was the 1st, 5th, 12th, or 53,689th best guitarist in rock history. I just know that I like some of his songs, and that he's bloody good at playing songs on the guitar and at singing them. Unlike rugby, we don't have to pick The Best Drummer to take on the Wallabies... <br><br>
There are some amazingly talented and technical guitarists out there. There are also some great four chord songs. One of my favourite rock/pop songs features the lead guitarist on a mandolin. Technically it may be a different league to Clapton or whoever, but my ears could care less. <br><br>
RIP Prince and thanks for the great songs to listen to.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Clapton or Knoffler could play guitar like a god while stood rock still staring at the sky concentrating. Prince could do the same while dry humping 2 backing singers standing on a piano. </p>
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<p>In 11 years on this site, this is the dumbest and stupidest argument I've ever read. Everybody on this thread, is now dumber for having read the above.</p>
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<p>In 11 years on this site, this is the dumbest and stupidest argument I've ever read. Everybody on this thread, is now dumber for having read the above.</p>
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<p>I offer you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.</p>
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<p>Knopfler played sessions for Steely Dan and Bob Dylan. That's cred.</p>
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<p>The former, not the latter........</p>
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<p>I remember the riff for "Money for Nothing" as good as anyone as well as it's futuristic looking vid but the likes of him, Clapton and Robbie Robertson don't hold a fucken candle to guitarists of similar age like Hendrix, Beck, Blackmore, Santana and Page....I mean I reckon EC was only third best guitarist the yardbirds ever had.</p> -
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<p>I can't decide which Guitar "Legend" out of Clapton and Knopfler is more god damn overrated.</p>
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<p>Die in a fire idiot.</p>
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<p>Gilmour tribute to Prince</p>
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<p>Die in a fire idiot.</p>
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<p>Gilmour tribute to Prince</p>
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<p>Mate, "die in a fire idiot" really? </p>
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<p>Mate, "die in a fire idiot" really? </p>
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<p>Mate, "die in a fire idiot" really? </p>
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<p>Video was cool though.</p>
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<p>Mate, "die in a fire idiot" really? </p>
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<p>Video was cool though.</p>
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<p>I'm quaking jegga, I bet he's really tough in real life.</p>