Coronavirus - China
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Woman at work is heading back to China this week for first time in years. She has been told 'almost everyone' has Covid.
She had it last Christmas and isn't looking forward to a second year of sickness if as she has been told is very likely she gets sick as soon as she touches down.
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@Snowy said in Coronavirus - China:
Dug this one out of the archives. Even @Baron-Silas-Greenback was around!
Any idea what's happening @Tim ?
This was just the last reference I found to it but they all state in that there aren't any new / different pathogens (if you believe China). Interesting that it could be a semi anticipated side effect of lockdowns, it comes and gets you anyway.
Relax isolation rules after a couple of years and what do you expect? Similar trend to the rest of the world I'd expect
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - China:
Relax isolation rules after a couple of years and what do you expect?
As I said, semi expected. Don't think that they were expecting quite such a kick back as to fill the hospitals.
@dogmeat That's the problem ay. Do you just go knowing that you will get it and put up with it? Or never go again because we are likely to be stuck with it forever in one form or another. I'm in the former camp, but can understand other points of view, particularly for those with a weaker constitution.
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@Snowy After 3 years of lock-down they are having their bad flu season (cold, flu, RSV), but a year later than NZ.
Everyone has a cold or something right now, including me. Haven't heard of COVID cases recently. The 2nd wave here was in the summer.
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been plenty of covid about up here but mostly pretty mild in terms of impact - isn't it the case that the Chinese vaccine wasn't as effective and so when they finally came out of lock down, the impact is bigger than in the West and more people end up in hospital?
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - China:
The Chinese were always more paranoid about COVID cases being hospitalised, if it seemed necessary or not. Their vaccine was apparently less effective, but if their mortality rate is not high I guess it's doing its job
true, however if it still results in people getting sicker and using up healthcare resource its still a problem. the bit lots of people seem totally unwilling to remember is that lock downs and vaccines were as important to protecting vital health care resource as about stopping people dying from Covid.
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@Dodge said in Coronavirus - China:
the bit lots of people seem totally unwilling to remember is that lock downs and vaccines were as important to protecting vital health care resource as about stopping people dying from Covid.
This is pretty much the reason for NZ's early lockdown. It wasn't just about Covid patients but victims of heart attacks accidents etc
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@antipodean Like everything connected with Covid there are misgivings about the report
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - China:
@antipodean Like everything connected with Covid there are misgivings about the report
I'm sure there are legitimate concerns. I can't be the only person thinking that vocal epidemiologists came out of Covid having almost entirely destroyed the credibility of their profession? I also see little wrong with expertise in health policy or applied economics looking at the benefits. Hell, actuaries aren't epidemiologists either...
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(Some of) The epidemiologists in NZ are still trying to claw their way back into the dazzling light of relevancy that had pre-Covid never illuminated their careers.
Google Michael Woods the only reference to the epidemiologist is a link to his own FB page.
I can't include Siouxsie Wiles as she's all over the news suing her employers for failing to protect her during Covid (from the anti-vaxxers). Plus she's a microbiologist.
I think it was @tim who said pre-Covid most in the scientific community didn't even consider epidemiologists as proper scientists.