Bench press - do you guys count the weight of the bar or not ?



  • Some people seem to.....some don't....if it is an extra 20kg ( as is sometimes the case ) shouldn't it be counted in the overall total ?  :nta



  • when you are lifting weight, you count every ounce!!



  • [quote name='MrBartMan']
    when you are lifting weight, you count every ounce!!

    [/quote]

    Thanks, thats just increased my BP by 20 kg in the eyes if a few naysayers !!! Excellent !!! ( in a Monty Burns voice )



  • ALWAYS! Anyone who doesn't count it, probably can't add 20 to anything

    Exception of course is doing it on a machine, where I'm pretty sure they include the weight of the apparatus Not that anyone serious about bench press uses a machine anyway!



  • [quote name='NTA']
    ALWAYS! Anyone who doesn't count it, probably can't add 20 to anything

    Exception of course is doing it on a machine, where I'm pretty sure they include the weight of the apparatus Not that anyone serious about bench press uses a machine anyway!
    [/quote]

    It sure is easier on a machine, no need to use the stabilising muscles !



  • Always count the bar mate. And stay well way from machines, they are the Devils work.  Free weights are where its at.



  • [quote name='Red Beard']
    Always count the bar mate. And stay well way from machines, they are the Devils work.  Free weights are where its at.
    [/quote]Yup the machine takes you through an arc which I find puts more emphasis on the front delts



  • I count the bar.

    End of.



  • [quote name='TB']
    I count the bar.
    [/quote]

    If that is all you can bench, you had best count the bar!!Â



  • [quote name='taniwharugby']
    [quote name='TB']
    I count the bar.
    [/quote]

    If that is all you can bench, you had best count the bar!! 
    [/quote]

    Damn right.



  • [quote name='Red Beard']
    Always count the bar mate. And stay well way from machines, they are the Devils work.  Free weights are where its at.
    [/quote]

    But machines make you feel SO strong !!! 😢



  • until you take said confidence to the free weights and do a stevie Wonder impression! if you're not used to free weights the bloody thing twists and wobbles with a mind of its own!



  • [quote name='Paekakboyz']
    until you take said confidence to the free weights and do a stevie Wonder impression! if you're not used to free weights the bloody thing twists and wobbles with a mind of its own!
    [/quote]
    The more you bench though, gradually it will stop happening.  It takes time for all the little stabilisers to adjust, but once they do and it gets recordered into your your 'muscle memory' the shakes will becomne a thing of the past.



  • Doing my benching at home but have dodgy clips on the bar keeping the weights on so they slide off one side and crash and bang everywhere !!!! The neighbours popped round to check I was OK !!! no holes in the wall ( yet ) I think I need a good spotting partner cos the wife isn't strong enough  😁

    The muscle memory is a good thing though aye, if you've done it in the past it doesn't take too long to get back there although the first few weeks back were tough !!!



  • If only I had a history of being good at cardio and had cardio memory!



  • Always count the bar but make sure the bar is 20kg first, many aren't.

    Free weights-there ought to be an invention for free weights where if you get stuck a pulley type system pulls the weights back or up for you.
    I prefer free weights but it always depends on the exercises, your technique and your physical condition. Many jocks use free weights but with such crap technique they would be better off with machines.



  • [quote name='Red Beard']
    If only I had a history of being good at cardio and had cardio memory!
    [/quote]

    Front rowers have to be fit RB I'm sure you'd do ok in the old beep test !!!



  • Front rowers don't take the beep test... except to ruck shit out of whatever is making the beep.



  • beep test, don't get me started..!!

    and as for counting the weight of the bar in the title, I read it today, and thought, "Fuck, count the bloody dust particles that settle on it as you are lfiting too"!!

    It is amazing how much weight 2.5kgs is when you are lifting max weights too!!  going from 120 to 122.5 is sod all, but blows you away!!  All in the head though I reckon, as on the odd occassion I have slipeed an extra 5kg onto the bar for prop Cyril, and he still gets the set out - loverly!!



  • Not wrong, that little bit of extra weight can turn the arms to jelly pretty quickly.

    Says in the latest Rugby World that Percy Montgomery can bench 165kg !?!?!?! its not like he busts through tackles and is regarded as a particularly "powerful" type player but if that is accurate then....hats off to the man...would probably only weigh 90 kg at the most too !!!


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