Lawn MOwers



  • I know @Kirwan started a thread some time back, looks like it is gone.

    Anywho, my old Masport push mower is on its last wheels, everytime I use it now, something new goes wrong so am looking at new ones.

    Seen this one which looks pretty good
    https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ryobi-175cc-subaru-4-stroke-lawn-mower_p03380950

    But contemplating spending a few more $$$ and going all eco-warrior on my lawns (well the parts my John deere cant deal with)

    https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/bosch-cordless-lawnmover-rotak-43-li-36-volt/p/268596

    Anyone else gone the electric route?



  • @taniwharugby never gone the electric route but my son fixes up lawnmowers to sell on trademe . The one you linked to has a Subaru motor which are awesome but a steel deck so it'll need to be cleaned to keep it from rusting out ones the paint rubs off. If you pay the extra for an alloy base you will avoid that problem.



  • @jegga yeah I keep mine pretty clean, which is why the deck of my old one is probably the best part of it haha...luckily my Ride On's deck is galvanised.



  • @taniwharugby said in Lawn MOwers:

    I know @Kirwan started a thread some time back, looks like it is gone.

    Anywho, my old Masport push mower is on its last wheels, everytime I use it now, something new goes wrong so am looking at new ones.

    Seen this one which looks pretty good
    https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ryobi-175cc-subaru-4-stroke-lawn-mower_p03380950

    But contemplating spending a few more $$$ and going all eco-warrior on my lawns (well the parts my John deere cant deal with)

    https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/bosch-cordless-lawnmover-rotak-43-li-36-volt/p/268596

    Anyone else gone the electric route?

    I bought the same Ryobi but 190cc. It's great and even has a hose plug in for deck wash to stop the rust that Jegga mentions. So far I'm impressed. Deals with Kikuya (sp?) huge torque (never stalls in the long stuff and the catcher actually does.



  • @Snowy Yeah I probably dont even need a 175cc for what I use mine for, but better to be overpowered than under!

    Suspect this will be more up @NTA alley 🙂

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  • @taniwharugby said in Lawn MOwers:

    But contemplating spending a few more $$$ and going all eco-warrior on my lawns (well the parts my John deere cant deal with)

    https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/bosch-cordless-lawnmover-rotak-43-li-36-volt/p/268596

    Anyone else gone the electric route?

    I have an electric mower - its a relative cheapy and 36V like the one above. But it was an Ozito cheapie, so inferior to the Bosch above. Had it three years now, and its still doing the job for what lawn I have.

    Disadvantages: it is a little pissweak if I let the grass go too long, but I just mow twice that week, with a higher setting the first time.

    Advantages: very few failure points in electric. No need to store fuel/oil. Zero maintenance beyond charging. If you want to clean it off, just tip it on its side/back and use the blower or hose on the underside of the deck. Guarantee no oil or fuel will leak out 🙂

    When it was new (3 years ago) it got through all my lawn twice on a single charge with spare. These days it'll do it nearly twice due to lithium battery degradation. I have about 60sqm of lawn all up.

    If the mower carks it, which is unlikely in the near future, I'm going this way:

    https://www.bunnings.co.nz/aeg-58v-brushless-lawn-mower-skin-only_p03381008

    Now, that price is unfortunately skin-only, so you need to buy battery and charger, which is another cost:

    https://www.bunnings.co.nz/aeg-58v-4-0ah-battery-and-charger_p03381003

    BUT the good news is we're talking 58V here

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    And if I replace the trimmer at the same time, I get a battery with that - which will probably do both devices for my lawn before needing a recharge. The trimmer I have is Ryobi, and not cordless, which sucks.

    https://www.bunnings.co.nz/aeg-58v-4-0ah-brushless-line-trimmer-kit_p03381004

    OK, sure, that is NZD$1450 for your lawn care equipment (same kit is AUD$1200), but you're never buying fuel again. Never servicing again. Cordless to the max, and its all capable of handling fairly hard lawn.

    There is a video I've seen of some guy hitting some rough farm grass and cruising through - power available is quoted as better than 160cc petrol, and its variable power so will respond to conditions:



  • @NTA for half that price I can get the 36v Ryobi one, you dont need to sell me on the benefits of an electric, my current push mower is good on petrol, but has an oil leak, that cant be traced, so I chuck in like 100ml every mow just to keep it going....🛢

    https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ryobi-cordless-36v-4-0ah-li-ion-lawn-mower_p00304807

    I'll use it for the edges, round trees etc, have the 22HP John Deere for the main part and thats enough manliness to allow for a lesser push mower 🙂



  • @taniwharugby I'm sure you are comfortable with your sexuality



  • @taniwharugby I'm probably as green as NTA but small garden machines are always petrol for me. The alternatives are generally shit.



  • They were. Once brands starting going above 36V they became players. Think Victa make a 72V mower now.

    People said cordless drills, saws etc were never going to be good enough. Now the AEG hammer drill I used to swear by has been overtaken by its cordless brethren



  • @NTA indeed!

    Guess the good thing about these battery systems (Ryobi, AEG) is the batteries are interchangable, so means it will allow me to upgrade all my other tools I use less 🙂



  • And the reason I try not to isolate myself: too many frigging chargers! I've got the brushless 18V AEG drill, driver, blower, circular saw, torch, and multi-tool. One charger.

    The AEG 58V stuff is only for the garden range at the moment but that covers the leaf blower as well, so pretty good.



  • @taniwharugby said in Lawn MOwers:

    I know @Kirwan started a thread some time back, looks like it is gone.

    Anywho, my old Masport push mower is on its last wheels, everytime I use it now, something new goes wrong so am looking at new ones.

    Seen this one which looks pretty good
    https://www.bunnings.co.nz/ryobi-175cc-subaru-4-stroke-lawn-mower_p03380950

    But contemplating spending a few more $$$ and going all eco-warrior on my lawns (well the parts my John deere cant deal with)

    https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/bosch-cordless-lawnmover-rotak-43-li-36-volt/p/268596

    Anyone else gone the electric route?

    I bought the Ryobi one. HIGHLY recommended. Avoid electric



  • @NTA said in Lawn MOwers:

    They were. Once brands starting going above 36V they became players. Think Victa make a 72V mower now.

    People said cordless drills, saws etc were never going to be good enough. Now the AEG hammer drill I used to swear by has been overtaken by its cordless brethren

    I've got aeg gear including cordless and I don't rate cordless above the other gear yet , sabre saws and hammer drills I still prefer to have a lead. Their gear is good for the price though.



  • after some research, am gonna stay with Petrol, and gonna get the 195cc Ryobi/Subaru one, only and extra $60 from the one I linked above...



  • @taniwharugby said in Lawn MOwers:

    after some research, am gonna stay with Petrol, and gonna get the 195cc Ryobi/Subaru one, only and extra $60 from the one I linked above...

    Nice, the plate compactors we use have Subaru motors on them which tells me they must be pretty well built to last on one of those.

    After Nick talking about electric I remembered that Stihl have a cordless chainsaw out, the bar and chain are very thin to drain less power and its still very expensive compared to the saws its competing against like a stihl 211 or husqvarna 236 but I'm sure the price will drop in time like all these sorts of things.

    http://www.adventuresinchainsawing.com/uncategorized/review-of-the-stihl-msa-200-c-bq/



  • @taniwharugby said in Lawn MOwers:

    after some research, am gonna stay with Petrol, and gonna get the 195cc Ryobi/Subaru one, only and extra $60 from the one I linked above...

    That's what I bought a couple of months ago after some research. $569? So far I'm really pleased with it. Hacks through anything. More about the torque than sheer power but deck wash is good feature too.



  • @Snowy yep, although I get a work discount through BUnnings so will be interesting to see what (if any) I get off it...the kaikuya here is pretty thick, even the Ride-On struggles in patches, although I do need to replace the mower belt, which will help I expect.



  • @taniwharugby said in Lawn MOwers:

    @Snowy yep, although I get a work discount through BUnnings so will be interesting to see what (if any) I get off it...the kaikuya here is pretty thick, even the Ride-On struggles in patches, although I do need to replace the mower belt, which will help I expect.

    Yeah. I use a 26hp tractor with mowing deck and even that can struggle with kikuyu if it gets long enough. It builds up into a mat which is great to walk on but incredibly hard to cut back once started. I made the mistake of a mulching mower a few years ago and created a bouncy castle effect out of the back yard (so use the catcher on the new machine). Lawn is back under control - although not so much fun.



  • @Snowy funnily, although we built a bit over 3 years ago now, the area of lawn that was under the big pile of dirt that they cleared for our site and then used to slope the bit in front, it grows thicker and faster than the rest of the lawn. THe original parts of the paddock is pretty dry and the kaikuya is no where near as thick.



  • If you want a really grunty mower the commercial lawn mowing guys tend to use Suzuki two strokes which are no longer available new probably for emissions reasons but are bloody powerful for their size. Have a look on trademe if you're interested, they are normally on rover bases.
    I got given one the other night , they have four blades on this one two of them were munted but it lived up to its reputation .



  • @taniwharugby said in Lawn MOwers:

    @Snowy funnily, although we built a bit over 3 years ago now, the area of lawn that was under the big pile of dirt that they cleared for our site and then used to slope the bit in front, it grows thicker and faster than the rest of the lawn. THe original parts of the paddock is pretty dry and the kaikuya is no where near as thick.

    That might be that the soil has effectively been tilled when it was turned over and the more nutritious stuff is on top I reckon. Had the same thing at our place and an infestation of thistle. Had to get all that out and let the grass cover it to stop it happening again.

    @Jegga. Yep no substitute for power. Probably should have called you Jezza there...



  • @Snowy said in Lawn MOwers:

    @taniwharugby said in Lawn MOwers:

    @Snowy yep, although I get a work discount through BUnnings so will be interesting to see what (if any) I get off it...the kaikuya here is pretty thick, even the Ride-On struggles in patches, although I do need to replace the mower belt, which will help I expect.

    Yeah. I use a 26hp tractor with mowing deck and even that can struggle with kikuyu if it gets long enough. It builds up into a mat which is great to walk on but incredibly hard to cut back once started. I made the mistake of a mulching mower a few years ago and created a bouncy castle effect out of the back yard (so use the catcher on the new machine). Lawn is back under control - although not so much fun.

    Kikuyu is shit, hate it, scratchy crawly, fast growing , harsh crap. .. that goes a horrible brown every time you cut it.
    I have got rid of mine, killed it with some great spray, then resowed good grass. Still probably spot spray once a month to get rid of the regrowth, but that is becoming less and less.
    Plenty of tips and advice for anyone wanting to get rid of Kikuyu and replace with a nice plush slow growing soft lawn.

    Plus my new mower pretty much just cruises though the new grass, I mow 1/3 as often ( I got slow growing grass) and it takes a third of the time to mow.

    P.S Fuck Kikuyu grass.. grass being able to stall a mower is just wrong.



  • @Baron-Silas-Greenback yeah I'd struggle to get rid of it, old sheep paddock, neighbours paddock is still a sheep paddock...when we had our annual frost this year, it killed all the kaikuya, alas, it grew back.

    Only positive is it does give great green coverage in dry conditions.



  • @Baron-Silas-Greenback I hate the stuff as well but we have 12 acres of it (and the neighbours) and 10 acres of native bush that I don't want to poison, so no way I can get rid of it unfortunately.

    I would try and change the lawn where we are now but seeing as I am selling and I have enough to do, like wasting time on here, that won't happen either.



  • Get some livestock?



  • @NTA for the parts that are native bush, probably not allowed to have stock in it.

    On some properties in NZ, you might own say 50acres, and maybe 25 might be covenanted bush, so your stock arent allowed in, but you have to maintain fences to keep them out.



  • @NTA Nah stock are a pain. We had sheep on the place but not any more. Fences are stuffed and neighbour was building - and now we will be.
    I don't want them in the bush either, it's a designated natural area (by my choosing). We have kauri in there that are several hundred years old, etc. So stock are a nuisance, probably won't do it again, just geese, chooks, and will get dog.
    Oh and I will kill possums - they really are fuckers in NZ.



  • @taniwharugby Beat me to it. All applies to our place.



  • So bit late to this but heard a feature on mowers at labour weekend. Consumer chose an electric as best in the field for first time ever

    Pro's lightweight and was actually able to cut through longer wet grass than any of the petrol models

    Cons - cost

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/thiswayup/audio/201820881/the-best-lawnmower-ever



  • So I went with the Ryobi/Subaru 190cc version...gave it the first test run today.

    What I didnt realise was it has the mulcher plug too, which is gonna save me plenty of time (with my compost boxes at each end of the section) although it didnt like it much when I went over the thick kaikuya with the mulcher in, otherwise it runs smooth, barely flinched at any of the thick stuff, good on fuel (better than old last 2 stroke) and also is a little quieter too.

    All in all, pretty happy...not quite enough to make me look forward to pushing it about as I do the ride on, but still 🙂



  • @taniwharugby Be wary of using the mulcher on kikuyu. I mentioned it above:

    " I made the mistake of a mulching mower a few years ago and created a bouncy castle effect out of the back yard (so use the catcher on the new machine). Lawn is back under control - although not so much fun."

    In the end it was uncuttable, just keep feeding itself until it was inches thick.



  • @Snowy it was only when I deliberately mowed through the thick patch in the middle to see how it coped....my old mower would almost always stall going through there with a catcher.


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