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@jegga said in Aussie Politics:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
This what the girl said:
"The reason why I don’t sing it or stand is because – Advance Australia Fair means advance White Australia."
I wonder where she got that from? Absolutely disgusting.
Some more unsurprising facts here:
http://amp.abc.net.au/article/10235792"Her father Mark Nielsen, who is an Associate Professor at the School of Psychology at the University of Queensland."
"One of the things she was really hoping to do with this is to raise awareness and get people thinking about institutionalised racism and how that looks and how that might feel to people who these kinds of things affect," he said.
What a fucking prize piston wristed gibbon. Poor kid.
they look pretty much like I expected them too, the hand in his daughters lap is a tad creepy. Who has the most punchable face? Im going with 1,2, 3.
It's like life imitating the Onion. A stock image of a demented leftist family.
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This is a good follow up to the Lauren Southern 'No Go Zone' video in Lakemba, Sydney.
Shows two things
- On an individual level the police action was totally unjustified, Muslim citizens are more than happy to take criticism and discuss Islam and are not likely to get violent.
- On a doctrinal level there is an authoritarian murderous undercurrent within Islam which many won't face up to. The question is whether in a group setting will this supersede individual tolerance or not?
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This is a good informative read on the problem with Australia's new 'informed consent' model for gender transition which will result in more children being encouraged into irreversible treatment.
The author is a trans woman author whom I've known online for some time and met fair recently during the Darebin by election when she was campaigning for the Conservative party. Can vouch her head is firmly screwed on and she gives great insight into gender dysphoria and the fairly recent madness that is trendy transgenderism for kids.
https://quillette.com/2018/07/31/why-trans-kids-need-gatekeepers/
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Good article. Many good points discussed, but two stand out, describing the hypocrisy of those who wish for authoritarian control of everything except actions that may include them (or others such as them), and the clearest explanation of the key problem most educators find with children/young adults nowadays - life is not game you win:
*1. Last month here in Australia, new guidelines published in the Medical Journal of Australia gave the green light for potentially more trans children to go on HRT as young as 13, defying international guidelines. Specifically, “decisions about affirming a young person’s gender identity should be driven primarily by the child or adolescent, in conjunction with their family and health care providers.” While this experiment was hailed as world-leading, the minimum legal age for smoking, drinking and voting in Australia remains at 18, and it’s still 16 for consensual sex. So in Australia, a 15-year-old teen cannot consent to sexual activity but they can consent to life-altering medical treatments that they almost certainly cannot fully grasp at that age.
- If we teach our youth that medical intervention is a victory rather than a process, then we are encouraging youth to “achieve” something that may or may not be in their best interest.*
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And probably soon to not be Scott Morrison with another likely General Election on the horizon after the Libs thrashed in Wentworth by-election yesterday.
Poor old Scott hasn't exactly endeared himself to the voters just yet and hard to see him winning an election if it is held soon. They had a great opportunity to install Julie Bishop who would have been streets ahead of Bill Shorten as a preferred PM. At least the weasels Dutton and Abbott have not been heard from recently (although this may be a bad thing)
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Turnbull has further disgraced himself. It's bad enough that he just upped and resigned, putting the govt majority at risk. But then he pissed off to Manhattan and refused to campaign or assist the Libs in Wentworth. If that wasn't bad enough, his spoilt little bitch of a son was campaigning against the Libs on Twitter, obviously with dad's blessing. What a disgusting piece of work. Good riddance.
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@rancid-schnitzel on the other hand, he could have shown up, and thrown his support behind Sharma, and they still could have lost. We'll never know, though one of the best quotes I saw during the week is "Loyalty is a two-way street".
Can't deny that Turnbull's knifing - as much as his conduct in office - had something to do with the way the voting turned out. A bit of a protest vote by the electorate, against the people currently running the Liberal party, because they're actually a fairly central bunch, and liked Turnbull.
But it isn't likely to be the sole reason they got a ~20% swing against them. Historic.
Barrie Cassidy probably summed it up best on Saturday morning, when examining the week leading in:
There were a couple of quotes from sitting MPs stating "I don't read these motions" - they just vote with the party or what staffers tell them to do, by the looks. And there is a lot of stuff they'd be reading otherwise, but just perhaps that's why they earn $200K per year + expenses + costs?
Its a bit of a shame for Sharma - looks like a good bloke actually. Heard his speech on Saturday night and he spoke far more eloquently and graciously than either the Treasurer before him, or PM after him.
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@nta said in Aussie Politics:
@rancid-schnitzel on the other hand, he could have shown up, and thrown his support behind Sharma, and they still could have lost. We'll never know, though one of the best quotes I saw during the week is "Loyalty is a two-way street".
Can't deny that Turnbull's knifing - as much as his conduct in office - had something to do with the way the voting turned out. A bit of a protest vote by the electorate, against the people currently running the Liberal party, because they're actually a fairly central bunch, and liked Turnbull.
But it isn't likely to be the sole reason they got a ~20% swing against them. Historic.
Barrie Cassidy probably summed it up best on Saturday morning, when examining the week leading in:
There were a couple of quotes from sitting MPs stating "I don't read these motions" - they just vote with the party or what staffers tell them to do, by the looks. And there is a lot of stuff they'd be reading otherwise, but just perhaps that's why they earn $200K per year + expenses + costs?
Its a bit of a shame for Sharma - looks like a good bloke actually. Heard his speech on Saturday night and he spoke far more eloquently and graciously than either the Treasurer before him, or PM after him.
Or, how's this? He doesn't resign and force a by-election, thus putting the govts majority in jeopardy?
Loyalty is a two-way street. That is absolutely hilarious when referring to a narcissistic tosser like Turnbull. Are you serious?
Fairly central bunch? Oh my lord.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
Or, how's this? He doesn't resign and force a by-election, thus putting the govts majority in jeopardy?
Loyalty is a two-way street. That is absolutely hilarious when referring to a narcissistic tosser like Turnbull. Are you serious?The brains trust of Abbott's rusted-on right who started this, especially Patsy Dutton, knew he was a narcissist, and knew he was likely to quit. The same Abbott who said he wouldn't snipe once he got booted, and spent every minute doing just that because he hated Turnbull so much.
The party wheeled John Howard out of his pickle jar to soothe tensions, and even THAT didn't work.
Instead, why not ride out another 7 months and then give him the arse as leader at the election they were bound to lose?
Careful who you try to make a saint in opposition to Turnbull's devil.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
Fairly central bunch? Oh my lord.
Expand on your sarcasm, please.
If you think Wentworth was a seat dominated by the kind of people who vote for Abbott and Dutton, your assessment is sorely misplaced.
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@nta said in Aussie Politics:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
Or, how's this? He doesn't resign and force a by-election, thus putting the govts majority in jeopardy?
Loyalty is a two-way street. That is absolutely hilarious when referring to a narcissistic tosser like Turnbull. Are you serious?The brains trust of Abbott's rusted-on right who started this, especially Patsy Dutton, knew he was a narcissist, and knew he was likely to quit. The same Abbott who said he wouldn't snipe once he got booted, and spent every minute doing just that because he hated Turnbull so much.
The party wheeled John Howard out of his pickle jar to soothe tensions, and even THAT didn't work.
Instead, why not ride out another 7 months and then give him the arse as leader at the election they were bound to lose?
Careful who you try to make a saint in opposition to Turnbull's devil.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
Fairly central bunch? Oh my lord.
Expand on your sarcasm, please.
If you think Wentworth was a seat dominated by the kind of people who vote for Abbott and Dutton, your assessment is sorely misplaced.
Christ, what is your obsession with Abbott and Dutton? The leader of the party is Morrison.
So it's the party's fault that Turnbull is a narcissist?
How's this for a suggestion? Don't make an extreme narcissist who couldn't give a shit about your party (and would likely be in the rival party if Richo hadn't told him to fook off) the head of said party.
I never said Wentworth was dominated by Dutton and Abbott supports, I just think your reference to them as "centrists" is laughable. Would you consider yourself a centrist?
Wentworth is a purple electorate. Dominated by champagne socialists. Turnbull's problem was that Wentworth doesn't represent Australia. Not by any stretch of the imagination.
Getting Howard there made no difference but imho the Libs would have retained the seat if Turnbull had made an effort rather than use his son as a proxy to sabotage the party he led only 5 minutes ago.
I would also add that any political party facing a rival with Bill Shorten as it's leader will fancy it's chances to the bitter end. Crazy to throw in the towel now. You might also remember that it was certain policy concerns that led to Turnbull being rolled, not the polls.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
Christ, what is your obsession with Abbott and Dutton? The leader of the party is Morrison.
First point I'd make is that Morrison is only leader because your poster boy Dutton is so bad at maths, he thought he had the numbers to take the top job :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_closed_eyes:
That is where this latest shit-show started - with Dutton (in a circle jerk with Abbott and Cormann and others) thinking he was smarter than the average potato.
If you want to go right back, Turnbull got the shits with Abbott when he was made leader in opposition. And that fire never died between the two of them. And when Abbott was proven to be such a shittily tin-eared PM, the Libs put the narcissist in place. All the while the ex-leader, promising not to snipe or wreck or undermine, did exactly that from the back bench with his little cadre of dipshits.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
So it's the party's fault that Turnbull is a narcissist?
How's this for a suggestion? Don't make an extreme narcissist who couldn't give a shit about your party (and would likely be in the rival party if Richo hadn't told him to fook off) the head of said party.Answered your own question - this party is so utterly lacking in self-awareness that they thought Turnbull put the party ahead of himself. You've been saying Turnbull is only in the job for himself, and you were right. Aren't you happy? They thought Abbott would quiet down, too. So clearly they're not the brightest bunch.
Now Morrison is shouting and stamping his feet that the Libs need to get MORE conservative i.e. head to the right in order to shore up the heart of the party. Let's see how that goes, eh?
My bet is there aren't enough RWNJs to support that bullshit, and they'll eventually cut out most of the cancer at the next election.
Still, when even Yabsley and Greiner blame Abbott, that has to count for something.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
I would also add that any political party facing a rival with Bill Shorten as it's leader will fancy it's chances to the bitter end. Crazy to throw in the towel now.
Now THAT I can agree with! "Battler" Bill - who could afford to go to Xavier College, mind - couldn't be as bad a leader as Abbott, but so long in opposition, and the fact he looks a complete fucking dullard, renders him a poor choice.
It'll be a very punishing campaign next year. I don't know whether ScoMo is an optimist, or just a shouty dickhead who believes in some kind of manifest destiny under his God.
You might also remember that it was certain policy concerns that led to Turnbull being rolled, not the polls.
Yeah the NEG was one, and while it wasn't great, it was never going to be accepted by the RWNJ corner of the room. Funny how it was destined to go down as the crowning achievement of Frydenberg's political career to date, but he dropped it like a hot rock once he got the Treasurer's pay cheque and a pat on the head.
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@nta said in Aussie Politics:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
Christ, what is your obsession with Abbott and Dutton? The leader of the party is Morrison.
First point I'd make is that Morrison is only leader because your poster boy Dutton is so bad at maths, he thought he had the numbers to take the top job :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_closed_eyes:
That is where this latest shit-show started - with Dutton (in a circle jerk with Abbott and Cormann and others) thinking he was smarter than the average potato.
If you want to go right back, Turnbull got the shits with Abbott when he was made leader in opposition. And that fire never died between the two of them. And when Abbott was proven to be such a shittily tin-eared PM, the Libs put the narcissist in place. All the while the ex-leader, promising not to snipe or wreck or undermine, did exactly that from the back bench with his little cadre of dipshits.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
So it's the party's fault that Turnbull is a narcissist?
How's this for a suggestion? Don't make an extreme narcissist who couldn't give a shit about your party (and would likely be in the rival party if Richo hadn't told him to fook off) the head of said party.Answered your own question - this party is so utterly lacking in self-awareness that they thought Turnbull put the party ahead of himself. You've been saying Turnbull is only in the job for himself, and you were right. Aren't you happy? They thought Abbott would quiet down, too. So clearly they're not the brightest bunch.
Now Morrison is shouting and stamping his feet that the Libs need to get MORE conservative i.e. head to the right in order to shore up the heart of the party. Let's see how that goes, eh?
My bet is there aren't enough RWNJs to support that bullshit, and they'll eventually cut out most of the cancer at the next election.
Still, when even Yabsley and Greiner blame Abbott, that has to count for something.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Aussie Politics:
I would also add that any political party facing a rival with Bill Shorten as it's leader will fancy it's chances to the bitter end. Crazy to throw in the towel now.
Now THAT I can agree with! "Battler" Bill - who could afford to go to Xavier College, mind - couldn't be as bad a leader as Abbott, but so long in opposition, and the fact he looks a complete fucking dullard, renders him a poor choice.
It'll be a very punishing campaign next year. I don't know whether ScoMo is an optimist, or just a shouty dickhead who believes in some kind of manifest destiny under his God.
You might also remember that it was certain policy concerns that led to Turnbull being rolled, not the polls.
Yeah the NEG was one, and while it wasn't great, it was never going to be accepted by the RWNJ corner of the room. Funny how it was destined to go down as the crowning achievement of Frydenberg's political career to date, but he dropped it like a hot rock once he got the Treasurer's pay cheque and a pat on the head.
I simply don't have the energy to respond to that today. I'll just let that go through to the keeper. Why do we bother Nick?
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@rancid-schnitzel sheer boredom.
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One word: Cringy.
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@nta said in Aussie Politics:
Jeez Quadbike is really pissed off at his old mates:
Worked for Rudd. Might just work for Morrison. No margin for even the slightest fuck up though. I think the leadership debates will be vital.
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@rancid-schnitzel vital and boring.
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@nta said in Aussie Politics:
@rancid-schnitzel vital and boring.
Actually do people even still watch those? Used to be almost compulsory viewing. Now most probably watch the Block or some other utter shit.
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