MN5s muscle maintaining musings....



  • I've probably got another thread somewhere that's bitten the dust so will start another one and hope for the best.

    Like a lot of you I'm now the wrong side of 40 which sux complete arse. I haven't been IDd buying alcohol in the supermarket for at least 2-3 years. I find it harder and harder to rock n roll all night and party every day.

    I've always been well into the weights and so forth but at present they've been sitting in the garage with about 200kg of iron gathering loads of cobwebs. Instead I've been finding any number of alternative ways to test the body and to be honest am absolutely loving them.

    Instead of deadlifts I find a great replacement for these are good old fashioned tyre flips. Once you get the technique down and lift explosively they are a piece of piss and I do love the good ache afterwards, ( although too much of these on a lighter tyre is a bit close to cardio land copyright @Paekakboyz ) I'm also loving different varieties of push ups ( strict diamond ones are an absolute prick ) and also hauling my arse up a long rope with arms only. So good for the guns and grip strength. Plyometric jumps at the park too.

    I also do Pilates but only cos I have to.

    I'm weighing about 98kg and apparently looking pretty jacked ( #nohomo a mate told me this ), during the week I tend to do a bit of an intermittent fast type thing, I do watch what I eat on the whole but for me the whole missing brekky thing works pretty good provided I have about 3-4 black coffees.

    Not sure how much I'll update this thread ( like my other ones ) but I'll do my best !



  • @rocky-rockbottom said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    @mn5 said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    I'm also loving different varieties of push ups ( strict diamond ones are an absolute prick )

    are those ones when you've got your elbows down at about 45 degrees, a sort of arrow formation? God they are a bastard, if I can do 40 odd normal pushups I can only manage 10-15 of those fuckers

    Form your hands into a diamond shape. Lower your chest til it touches. Keep really strict form.

    Yep they're a fluffybunny alright but get easier, like anything.



  • @mn5 just smashed 20, coulda kept going, but didnt wanna embarrass you young cnuts!

    Seriously though, I did just do 20, might need to add them to my every other day press-up/pull up routine.



  • @taniwharugby said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    @mn5 just smashed 20, coulda kept going, but didnt wanna embarrass you young cnuts!

    Seriously though, I did just do 20, might need to add them to my every other day press-up/pull up routine.

    30-35 on a good day for yours truly. I do need a few days rest afterwards though. They are horrible. I find the shoulders tend to hurt a bit the day after.



  • @mn5 said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    @taniwharugby said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    @mn5 just smashed 20, coulda kept going, but didnt wanna embarrass you young cnuts!

    Seriously though, I did just do 20, might need to add them to my every other day press-up/pull up routine.

    30-35 on a good day for yours truly. I do need a few days rest afterwards though. They are horrible. I find the shoulders tend to hurt a bit the day after.

    A few goes up the rope this morning supersetted with clap push ups before a massive feed of bacon and eggs. The grip strength is feeling awesome, the muscles always fail before that goes. I was also sensible and made sure I stocked up on wine and beer for today.



  • Who said bacon...



  • Nice session of tyre flips early in the week before the weather turned to shit. This avos effort involved lunges then a few goes up and down the firemans pole ( hands only )

    Suitably fried after that.



  • The mrs has roped me into doing a reformer session ( this is a pilates machine ) at the studio after her afternoon class has finished. Only 15 minutes and it's a private session so there won't be anyone there to laugh at how shit I am.

    Full review to follow.



  • Well overall I can't speak highly enough of that session. Best bit was saving $25, all I have to do for that is root the instructor every now and again. Talk about win/win.

    The mrs bought this big clunky machine for a few grand and got qualified to teach it and cos I couldn't be fucked going to her classes ( after a hard day's work listening to a bunch of cackling hens and very few blokes in class became a pain ) I haven't done Pilates for awhile so I promised her to commit to a couple of private sessions a week.

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    Christ on a bike, the first one was fucken hard work. My 'big' muscles are nice and strong but turns out a lot of my stabilizers need quite a bit of work. It's very hard to explain but I was well and truly humbled when I had to adopt a push up position and move the board using only my midsection....I collapsed in a heap but I WILL get better!

    Seriously, give it a hoon.



  • Another session booked in for tomorrow as well as chopping trees on our section. That should get me nice and fried in honour of those who fell in the name of freedom.

    DOMs are an absolute fluffybunny too.....Gonna have to fight them when the other half tortures me tomorrow.



  • Coming back from town and as neither of us could be arsed going home beforehand to get suitable attire I ended up doing the session in jeans ( lucky they are Chuck Norris style action jeans ). I didnt collapse this time and my Range of motion improved ever so slightly.

    Winning.

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  • Hit a PB on diamond push ups last night! This may be down to the reformer work I have been doing and the stabilising muscles being better conditioned. Either way, fucken thrilled.

    95.8kg too. Wasting away.



  • @mn5 said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    Hit a PB on diamond push ups last night! This may be down to the reformer work I have been doing and the stabilising muscles being better conditioned. Either way, fucken thrilled.

    95.8kg too. Wasting away.

    Are daimond push ups, push ups with hands together?



  • @hooroo said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    @mn5 said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    Hit a PB on diamond push ups last night! This may be down to the reformer work I have been doing and the stabilising muscles being better conditioned. Either way, fucken thrilled.

    95.8kg too. Wasting away.

    Are daimond push ups, push ups with hands together?

    Yep shaped like a diamond hence the name. Much harder than regular ones.



  • @mn5 fucking A - they are the devils work!!



  • @paekakboyz said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    @mn5 fucking A - they are the devils work!!

    Great for chest and tris though. I'm almost tempted not to tell the other half cos then she'll say she told me so.



  • Good solid weekend of chainsawing a bunch of trees ( super arm workout that ) then making the mistake of rope climbing the day afterwards, the DOMS was in full force and as I descended I slid a bit and scraped my hands a bit.

    Rookie mistake. Disgusted with myself.

    Lower body session and Pilates tomorrow night.



  • Everything going well. Feeling in great shape despite a massive night on the piss on Friday.

    I'm going to learn how to do pistol squats for my latest party tricks. Tough to do but impressive.....I hope.

    Weight 96kg. Probably need to up the cardio though.



  • Woke up today feeling a bit of pain in the humerus bones which isn't very funny.

    I'm not really doing weights but assume it's from the rope climbs which are pretty taxing. Any of you other fellas had this?



  • @mn5 said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    Woke up today feeling a bit of pain in the humerus bones which isn't very funny.

    I'm not really doing weights but assume it's from the rope climbs which are pretty taxing. Any of you other fellas had this?

    I think it's humerus that you do rope climbs.

    I'm sorry, I'll get my coat.

    In all seriousness, I used to have a few issues with it. Old dude down the gym had a stretching exercise for it. Basically just grab hold of something and stretch out the arm for 30 seconds or so. You can also just hang off a bar. Seems a bit voodoo but did the job for me.

    He he, rope climbs. Bet you use that sledgehammer on the tyre as well.



  • @rancid-schnitzel said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    @mn5 said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    Woke up today feeling a bit of pain in the humerus bones which isn't very funny.

    I'm not really doing weights but assume it's from the rope climbs which are pretty taxing. Any of you other fellas had this?

    I think it's humerus that you do rope climbs.

    I'm sorry, I'll get my coat.

    In all seriousness, I used to have a few issues with it. Old dude down the gym had a stretching exercise for it. Basically just grab hold of something and stretch out the arm for 30 seconds or so. You can also just hang off a bar. Seems a bit voodoo but did the job for me.

    He he, rope climbs. Bet you use that sledgehammer on the tyre as well.

    In terms of an arm/back workout they are sensational and something I love doing. There's a big rope swing down the road from where I live and I pop down there for a workout twice a week or so.

    Will try that hanging at the park or off a door frame too.

    Haven't done tires for a few weeks but will have a swing when I'm there next, last time it was full of water to make it extra challenging.



  • @mn5 said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    @mn5 said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    Woke up today feeling a bit of pain in the humerus bones which isn't very funny.

    I'm not really doing weights but assume it's from the rope climbs which are pretty taxing. Any of you other fellas had this?

    I think it's humerus that you do rope climbs.

    I'm sorry, I'll get my coat.

    In all seriousness, I used to have a few issues with it. Old dude down the gym had a stretching exercise for it. Basically just grab hold of something and stretch out the arm for 30 seconds or so. You can also just hang off a bar. Seems a bit voodoo but did the job for me.

    He he, rope climbs. Bet you use that sledgehammer on the tyre as well.

    In terms of an arm/back workout they are sensational and something I love doing. There's a big rope swing down the road from where I live and I pop down there for a workout twice a week or so.

    Will try that hanging at the park or off a door frame too.

    Haven't done tires for a few weeks but will have a swing when I'm there next, last time it was full of water to make it extra challenging.

    Yeah, obviously just shitting you. It looks like really good exercise. Much much harder than it looks.



  • @rancid-schnitzel said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    @mn5 said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    @mn5 said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    Woke up today feeling a bit of pain in the humerus bones which isn't very funny.

    I'm not really doing weights but assume it's from the rope climbs which are pretty taxing. Any of you other fellas had this?

    I think it's humerus that you do rope climbs.

    I'm sorry, I'll get my coat.

    In all seriousness, I used to have a few issues with it. Old dude down the gym had a stretching exercise for it. Basically just grab hold of something and stretch out the arm for 30 seconds or so. You can also just hang off a bar. Seems a bit voodoo but did the job for me.

    He he, rope climbs. Bet you use that sledgehammer on the tyre as well.

    In terms of an arm/back workout they are sensational and something I love doing. There's a big rope swing down the road from where I live and I pop down there for a workout twice a week or so.

    Will try that hanging at the park or off a door frame too.

    Haven't done tires for a few weeks but will have a swing when I'm there next, last time it was full of water to make it extra challenging.

    Yeah, obviously just shitting you. It looks like really good exercise. Much much harder than it looks.

    Pretty satisfying getting to the top but can be a bit scary on the descent if you're fatigued.



  • Is it anything like tennis elbow? likely from all the grip effort? you can roll out your forearms and that can help with soreness around the elbow... note that is straight out bro-science so the next port of call would def be our in-fern physio @Magpie_in_aus 🙂



  • @paekakboyz said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    Is it anything like tennis elbow? likely from all the grip effort? you can roll out your forearms and that can help with soreness around the elbow... note that is straight out bro-science so the next port of call would def be our in-fern physio @Magpie_in_aus 🙂

    Just up from the elbow but getting it in both arms which is good meaning my body is crapping out at an even rate 🙂



  • @mn5 getting older is a motherfucker. I currently have something called Wry Neck (and i wish it was just a shit NZ beer) caused by sleeping funny! WTF? I have had to change how i sleep, and can't move my head properly because one of my traps is tight as a motherfucker. Swimming is fun right now.

    Fuck getting older.



  • @mariner4life said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    @mn5 getting older is a motherfucker. I currently have something called Wry Neck (and i wish it was just a shit NZ beer) caused by sleeping funny! WTF? I have had to change how i sleep, and can't move my head properly because one of my traps is tight as a motherfucker. Swimming is fun right now.

    Fuck getting older.

    Ha, shit beer. I like what you did there.

    Just read up on some warm ups to do before rope climbs, apparently they are very tough on the CNS.

    Pilates helps too but I've had a case of CBF in the last week.



  • Hopefully the missus hasn't implemented her own CBF status due to you missing pilates!!

    oh and @mariner4life that is quality banter bro.



  • @paekakboyz said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    Hopefully the missus hasn't implemented her own CBF status due to you missing pilates!!

    oh and @mariner4life that is quality banter bro.

    It's always an option on these cold nights bro 😉



  • Yeah bro science isn't too far off the mark. Have you had a sudden increase in load (not from the missing implementing the CBF stuff). As in gone from not doing a lot of a particular exercise to doing a lot.

    Tendons like load but don't like overload eg significant increases in weight, changes in grip techniques, or significant increases in frequency of exercises. Commonly called tennis elbow because they will get it after changing grip or massively ramping up training.

    Thing is tendons don't like deload either which is usually peoples go to. They decide to take a week off (in that time tendon gets no better and starts to weaken) go back and its still sore then rest another couple of weeks again no change. Then they either have a bigger rest or just try push through it. Result is always the same they turn up to physio after 2-3 months.

    Google Lateral Episcondylitis and tell me if thats where you are feeling your pain?



  • @magpie_in_aus said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    Yeah bro science isn't too far off the mark. Have you had a sudden increase in load (not from the missing implementing the CBF stuff). As in gone from not doing a lot of a particular exercise to doing a lot.

    Tendons like load but don't like overload eg significant increases in weight, changes in grip techniques, or significant increases in frequency of exercises. Commonly called tennis elbow because they will get it after changing grip or massively ramping up training.

    Thing is tendons don't like deload either which is usually peoples go to. They decide to take a week off (in that time tendon gets no better and starts to weaken) go back and its still sore then rest another couple of weeks again no change. Then they either have a bigger rest or just try push through it. Result is always the same they turn up to physio after 2-3 months.

    Google Lateral Episcondylitis and tell me if thats where you are feeling your pain?

    A little bit higher to be honest Doc.

    So you reckon stretching thoroughly beforehand will help then?

    I've changed from chins to doing rope climbing so probably more intense, I think that might be a potential issue.



  • Im pretty meh to stretching.

    What are the exercises or day to day things you notice it with?

    How long does the pain stay around? Are you controlling yourself on the way down or just sliding? Do you have any general fatigue for the following days (like whole body kind of stuff). Diagnosed a chick once who did crazy amount of diamond pushups and slow lower eccentric pullups one day. I treated her foot. Rung her the next day she said she was fatigued etc etc asked if the acupuncture would have caused that...

    I said no but lets try a long shot go ask your doctor to test you for Rhabdomyolysis. Doctor laughed her away but gave her a referral for the tests. Rung back 4 hours later asked her to rush to hospital. Was in there for the next 4-6 weeks. Kidney and liver function was about 1000x normal.

    unlikely but worth clearing.

    Any tingling pins and needles numbness (not the type of numbness I currently feel when watching the warriors).

    Neck and shoulder movement full?



  • @magpie_in_aus said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    Im pretty meh to stretching.

    What are the exercises or day to day things you notice it with?

    How long does the pain stay around? Are you controlling yourself on the way down or just sliding? Do you have any general fatigue for the following days (like whole body kind of stuff). Diagnosed a chick once who did crazy amount of diamond pushups and slow lower eccentric pullups one day. I treated her foot. Rung her the next day she said she was fatigued etc etc asked if the acupuncture would have caused that...

    I said no but lets try a long shot go ask your doctor to test you for Rhabdomyolysis. Doctor laughed her away but gave her a referral for the tests. Rung back 4 hours later asked her to rush to hospital. Was in there for the next 4-6 weeks. Kidney and liver function was about 1000x normal.

    unlikely but worth clearing.

    Any tingling pins and needles numbness (not the type of numbness I currently feel when watching the warriors).

    Neck and shoulder movement full?

    Bloody hell what a terrifying post!

    I try and control myself on the way down but sometimes this depends on the level of fatigue.

    Rest of the body feels ok. Managed to persuade the other half to rub the arms last night and that worked wonders.



  • @mn5 said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    @magpie_in_aus said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    Im pretty meh to stretching.

    What are the exercises or day to day things you notice it with?

    How long does the pain stay around? Are you controlling yourself on the way down or just sliding? Do you have any general fatigue for the following days (like whole body kind of stuff). Diagnosed a chick once who did crazy amount of diamond pushups and slow lower eccentric pullups one day. I treated her foot. Rung her the next day she said she was fatigued etc etc asked if the acupuncture would have caused that...

    I said no but lets try a long shot go ask your doctor to test you for Rhabdomyolysis. Doctor laughed her away but gave her a referral for the tests. Rung back 4 hours later asked her to rush to hospital. Was in there for the next 4-6 weeks. Kidney and liver function was about 1000x normal.

    unlikely but worth clearing.

    Any tingling pins and needles numbness (not the type of numbness I currently feel when watching the warriors).

    Neck and shoulder movement full?

    Bloody hell what a terrifying post!

    I try and control myself on the way down but sometimes this depends on the level of fatigue.

    Rest of the body feels ok. Managed to persuade the other half to rub the arms last night and that worked wonders.

    Probably just old age then. If pain persists go see a physio (and say you injured it at a very specific point in time so ACC jump on board).

    Unfortunately Aussie aren't on ACC so just PM me your address to send my invoice.



  • @magpie_in_aus said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    @mn5 said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    @magpie_in_aus said in MN5s muscle maintaining musings....:

    Im pretty meh to stretching.

    What are the exercises or day to day things you notice it with?

    How long does the pain stay around? Are you controlling yourself on the way down or just sliding? Do you have any general fatigue for the following days (like whole body kind of stuff). Diagnosed a chick once who did crazy amount of diamond pushups and slow lower eccentric pullups one day. I treated her foot. Rung her the next day she said she was fatigued etc etc asked if the acupuncture would have caused that...

    I said no but lets try a long shot go ask your doctor to test you for Rhabdomyolysis. Doctor laughed her away but gave her a referral for the tests. Rung back 4 hours later asked her to rush to hospital. Was in there for the next 4-6 weeks. Kidney and liver function was about 1000x normal.

    unlikely but worth clearing.

    Any tingling pins and needles numbness (not the type of numbness I currently feel when watching the warriors).

    Neck and shoulder movement full?

    Bloody hell what a terrifying post!

    I try and control myself on the way down but sometimes this depends on the level of fatigue.

    Rest of the body feels ok. Managed to persuade the other half to rub the arms last night and that worked wonders.

    Probably just old age then. If pain persists go see a physio (and say you injured it at a very specific point in time so ACC jump on board).

    Unfortunately Aussie aren't on ACC so just PM me your address to send my invoice.

    On it's way.

    Reformer session with the mrs this avo. Range of motion has improved on the AB exercises. Sweet!



  • Have added one armed push ups into the routine for ultimate wankness. I'm enjoying them and once you get the balance spot on they're not too bad.



  • Really pleased that my Sunday Pilates sessions are genuinely producing some awesome benefits ( I'm not just saying this to make the mrs happy ).

    My flexibility and core control are improving each week and in general I'm physically feeling awesome. She's adding more resistance bands and I'm going well, no more collapsing in a heap and even the shakes have gone. I can see why professional athletes swear by Pilates and yoga as great supplementary work to other stuff.

    I genuinely feel my control and form in other exercises has improved no end too.



  • Did 3 x rope climbs after work ( dressed in jeans and a shirt ) with about 3-4 minutes rest in between. Got a weird look from a lady walking her dog on the last set. Then home for a couple of sets of one armed push ups in the kitchen while frying up a steak and having a nice glass of diet Ginga beer.

    Devastatingly someone has moved ( stolen ) my tire that I use to flip so might have to pop down to the Rugby clubrooms and try and find another.

    I guess that's what happens when you live in the Hutt.



  • The mrs has signed us up for Tango this weekend. Being a coordinated musician I'm sure I'll be fine. I just hope it's not one of those 'change partner' type deals like when we did Salsa and I got stuck with an enormous minga who I couldn't get my arms around much to her amusement.

    ( the mrs not the minga )

    Trying to get the hang of pistol squats and failing miserably, no Pilates last Saturday on account of a family birthday thing and I fully intended to do dry July ( have been really good with the drinking lately ) but fucked up by having a couple of glasses of red on the first of July.



  • Pistol squats are fucking hard! And even harder without good ankle flexibility, which isn't something a lot of us work on 😁

    Next time you are doing the rope climbs you could use the rope to give you minor assistance. That's how I see a lot of peeps learning them at the gym. Plus not trying to go to deep to soon. Giggity 👍


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