internet/streaming



  • @mariner4life said in TV Serieseseses:

    i got rid of my Foxtel box for the first time since i moved to Aus. Not worth the 130 a month to be able to record, or rewind. Or watch reruns of Friends. (fuck friends!!!!).

    @mariner4life we've been thinking of doing the same. We've had Foxtel for 15 years and it has never been worse. More ads than free-to-air, and the content is shrinking.

    Most of the good stuff comes from their partnership with HBO (such as GoT) or BBC and of course sport.

    Having a stranglehold on Rugby in Aus there was no alternative to Foxtel other than going to the local pub and watching their Foxtel.

    But now with Kayo, there is an alternative (even if it is still owned by the evil Murdoch empire). One problem with Kayo, no 4k content. I do have to admit, 4K sport is pretty fkn awesome. Watching the RWC in 4K, every match, was bloody awesome. And they showed all the NZ v Aus cricket in 4K as well.

    TBH, 4K sport really is the shizz!!!

    What concerns me is that I have Foxtel through Telstra from what was a terrific offer when we first moved into a brand new apartment in North Sydney 3 years ago. An offer that was to good to refuse at the time, a Internet/Foxtel (basic package) bundle for $100/mnth but the best thing was that the internet was unlimited usage, NBN Fibre to the Premises, it literally terminates in one of the bedroom closets , and a free upgrade to the fastest (premium) speed, 100 Mb/sec.

    Of course we added packages (HD+, Sport, Drama, Documentaries and Entertainment plus) to the base package so we pay $79 on top of the original $100.

    The problem now is unpicking the Foxtel part from the internet part which I want to keep exactly as it is because Aussie ISP's don't even offer the premium speed package which we currently have, the highest speed package being offered is 80 mbps.

    So I am loath to lose the 100 mbps and unlimited data just to unsubscribe from Foxtel so we are in a bit of a bind as we both really feel the Foxtel is no longer worth it.

    First world problems hey 😉



  • @RoninWC said in TV Serieseseses:

    So I am loath to lose the 100 mbps and unlimited data just to unsubscribe from Foxtel so we are in a bit of a bind as we both really feel the Foxtel is no longer worth it.

    Huh, lots of ISPs have 100 mbps down (with unlimited. Plus, 80 down is probably more than good enough for what you want?

    So I guess it comes down to the 4K sport?



  • @Nepia said in TV Serieseseses:

    @RoninWC said in TV Serieseseses:

    So I am loath to lose the 100 mbps and unlimited data just to unsubscribe from Foxtel so we are in a bit of a bind as we both really feel the Foxtel is no longer worth it.

    Huh, lots of ISPs have 100 mbps down (with unlimited. Plus, 80 down is probably more than good enough for what you want?

    So I guess it comes down to the 4K sport?

    @Nepia Not sure if they do, or at least most do. I think you will see most offer around 80 mbps because of the real world failure of most NBN installations to hit 100 mbps due to the various connection types - FTTP, FTTN, FTTC, HFC, etc.

    In fact, Telstra now only advertises their Premium Speed Service as "85Mbps typical evening speeds on Premium speed boost. FTTP and HFC only", no mention at all of 100 mbps and yes it does include unlimited data. This premium service costs $120 a month.

    It does say in the details on another page... "Sometimes we go even faster. From June - Nov 2019, most customers experienced average evening download speeds of 90Mbps"

    Where as we get an average of around 95-98 mbps in those times and I've seen speeds exceeding 100 mbps in the middle of the night gaming.

    Often on the Aussie based BF4 and V servers I will get a ping of 1, never more than 2 and other gamers always ask what I'm on.



  • @RoninWC said in TV Serieseseses:

    @Nepia said in TV Serieseseses:

    @RoninWC said in TV Serieseseses:

    So I am loath to lose the 100 mbps and unlimited data just to unsubscribe from Foxtel so we are in a bit of a bind as we both really feel the Foxtel is no longer worth it.

    Huh, lots of ISPs have 100 mbps down (with unlimited. Plus, 80 down is probably more than good enough for what you want?

    So I guess it comes down to the 4K sport?

    @Nepia Not sure if they do, or at least most do. I think you will see most offer around 80 mbps because of the real world failure of most NBN installations to hit 100 mbps due to the various connection types - FTTP, FTTN, FTTC, HFC, etc.

    In fact, Telstra now only advertises their Premium Speed Service as "85Mbps typical evening speeds on Premium speed boost. FTTP and HFC only", no mention at all of 100 mbps and yes it does include unlimited data. This premium service costs $120 a month.

    It does say in the details on another page... "Sometimes we go even faster. From June - Nov 2019, most customers experienced average evening download speeds of 90Mbps"

    Where as we get an average of around 95-98 mbps in those times and I've seen speeds exceeding 100 mbps in the middle of the night gaming.

    Often on the Aussie based BF4 and V servers I will get a ping of 1, never more than 2 and other gamers always ask what I'm on.

    Looks like you're stuck then. 🙂



  • @RoninWC said in TV Serieseseses:

    @Nepia said in TV Serieseseses:

    @RoninWC said in TV Serieseseses:

    So I am loath to lose the 100 mbps and unlimited data just to unsubscribe from Foxtel so we are in a bit of a bind as we both really feel the Foxtel is no longer worth it.

    Huh, lots of ISPs have 100 mbps down (with unlimited. Plus, 80 down is probably more than good enough for what you want?

    So I guess it comes down to the 4K sport?

    @Nepia Not sure if they do, or at least most do. I think you will see most offer around 80 mbps because of the real world failure of most NBN installations to hit 100 mbps due to the various connection types - FTTP, FTTN, FTTC, HFC, etc.

    In fact, Telstra now only advertises their Premium Speed Service as "85Mbps typical evening speeds on Premium speed boost. FTTP and HFC only", no mention at all of 100 mbps and yes it does include unlimited data. This premium service costs $120 a month.

    It does say in the details on another page... "Sometimes we go even faster. From June - Nov 2019, most customers experienced average evening download speeds of 90Mbps"

    Where as we get an average of around 95-98 mbps in those times and I've seen speeds exceeding 100 mbps in the middle of the night gaming.

    Often on the Aussie based BF4 and V servers I will get a ping of 1, never more than 2 and other gamers always ask what I'm on.

    Poor wee things.
    1Gig is available here in little old NZ



  • @Crucial said in TV Serieseseses:

    @RoninWC said in TV Serieseseses:

    @Nepia said in TV Serieseseses:

    @RoninWC said in TV Serieseseses:

    So I am loath to lose the 100 mbps and unlimited data just to unsubscribe from Foxtel so we are in a bit of a bind as we both really feel the Foxtel is no longer worth it.

    Huh, lots of ISPs have 100 mbps down (with unlimited. Plus, 80 down is probably more than good enough for what you want?

    So I guess it comes down to the 4K sport?

    @Nepia Not sure if they do, or at least most do. I think you will see most offer around 80 mbps because of the real world failure of most NBN installations to hit 100 mbps due to the various connection types - FTTP, FTTN, FTTC, HFC, etc.

    In fact, Telstra now only advertises their Premium Speed Service as "85Mbps typical evening speeds on Premium speed boost. FTTP and HFC only", no mention at all of 100 mbps and yes it does include unlimited data. This premium service costs $120 a month.

    It does say in the details on another page... "Sometimes we go even faster. From June - Nov 2019, most customers experienced average evening download speeds of 90Mbps"

    Where as we get an average of around 95-98 mbps in those times and I've seen speeds exceeding 100 mbps in the middle of the night gaming.

    Often on the Aussie based BF4 and V servers I will get a ping of 1, never more than 2 and other gamers always ask what I'm on.

    Poor wee things.
    1Gig is available here in little old NZ

    Yup, Aussie is utterly fucked for internet! Worse than most third world countries all thanks to the worst Government I've seen in the ~30 years I've lived here.

    The LNP who've now been in power since 2013 took what was an excellent plan and already being rolled out by Labour and just utterly destroyed it because of partisan politics.

    A great example, at work I organised for a videoconference for about a dozen people who were in 5 different locations, Gladesville, Parramatta and Chatswood in Sydney, Newcastle and one person from Thailand.

    Those in Gladesville and Parramatta had to turn off their cams altogether and only use audio, Chatswood was choppy and the only one who was fine the whole time was the contractor who lives and works out of Thailand.

    And not just Thailand itself, but she is located on a small island off the mainland in Southern Thailand. Afterwards she told me she was on a 500 mbps connection. All I could do was shake my head in frustration.

    So an Island off Thailand has much, much better bandwidth than anything you can get in Aus... a fucking 3rd world country in so many ways!

    Lucky country my arse!



  • @RoninWC i am as far from my node as it is possible to get. my internet is fucking shit. I don't even have the NBN yet.

    The NBN is a fucking joke. Turnbull's defense of it is a disgrace.



  • @mariner4life said in TV Serieseseses:

    @RoninWC i am as far from my node as it is possible to get. my internet is fucking shit. I don't even have the NBN yet.

    The NBN is a fucking joke. Turnbull's defense of it is a disgrace.

    Couldn't agree more.

    My parents are in a similar situation and at best they get 1.0 t 1.25 mbps.

    And in their area they've been on the rollout plan starting 2 years ago when it was 2-6 months away and every 3-6 months they keep pushing it out.

    It is absolutely a national disgrace.

    My really positive experience really is an outlier to most peoples very poor experiences.



  • @RoninWC said in TV Serieseseses:

    @mariner4life said in TV Serieseseses:

    @RoninWC i am as far from my node as it is possible to get. my internet is fucking shit. I don't even have the NBN yet.

    The NBN is a fucking joke. Turnbull's defense of it is a disgrace.

    Couldn't agree more.

    My parents are in a similar situation and at best they get 1.0 t 1.25 mbps.

    And in their area they've been on the rollout plan starting 2 years ago when it was 2-6 months away and every 3-6 months they keep pushing it out.

    It is absolutely a national disgrace.

    My really positive experience really is an outlier to most peoples very poor experiences.

    but, but, but, really, it's all your ISP's fault, not the NBN

    Also, fast internet in Australia was always a pipedream, people need to temper their expectations

    etc



  • @mariner4life said in TV Serieseseses:

    @RoninWC said in TV Serieseseses:

    @mariner4life said in TV Serieseseses:

    @RoninWC i am as far from my node as it is possible to get. my internet is fucking shit. I don't even have the NBN yet.

    The NBN is a fucking joke. Turnbull's defense of it is a disgrace.

    Couldn't agree more.

    My parents are in a similar situation and at best they get 1.0 t 1.25 mbps.

    And in their area they've been on the rollout plan starting 2 years ago when it was 2-6 months away and every 3-6 months they keep pushing it out.

    It is absolutely a national disgrace.

    My really positive experience really is an outlier to most peoples very poor experiences.

    but, but, but, really, it's all your ISP's fault, not the NBN

    Also, fast internet in Australia was always a pipedream, people need to temper their expectations

    etc

    Will be interesting how 5G might change the landscape. Its been 18 months since my old apartment was supposedly 'NBN ready'..of course what that really meant was it was ready for a series of technicians to come in and not be able to connect it coupled with many promises over the phone. Not connected at my new place, mainly because we cracked the shits when my Mrs pulled up one day to find a random guy without notice or permission screwing stuff into the side of her house. Told NBN to fix the damage and f off. Its a new build so even if she did ask to be connected it should be underground with the rest of the cabling.



  • I have a mate who lives up above Brookvale who has to use wireless because there's no NBN in his area (what is weird is I think it was Abbott's electorate so you'd think it would have been done by now).



  • @Nepia Yep, That's Tone's hood. I'm in Fairlight, round the corner. We got NBN pretty quickly, one of the first streets. Paid for 25/5 initially to test it out, we have never got better than 17/3.5.



  • @voodoo said in TV Serieseseses:

    @Nepia Yep, That's Tone's hood. I'm in Fairlight, round the corner. We got NBN pretty quickly, one of the first streets. Paid for 25/5 initially to test it out, we have never got better than 17/3.5.

    I used to live in Fairlight - near the ocean pool.

    Sheesh that's still pretty shit.

    I think I documented the crap I had with Belong on here - used to get drop outs at least three to four times a day, Belong blamed it on NBN, congestion, the way the wind was blowing etc, as soon as I changed to a new ISP (Aussie Broadband) I've never had any problems and the 50/20 averages roughly 45/17.



  • It's own thread, good idea. It was a pretty massive tangent from TV Series.

    Cheers



  • @RoninWC said in internet/streaming:

    @Crucial said in TV Serieseseses:

    @RoninWC said in TV Serieseseses:

    @Nepia said in TV Serieseseses:

    @RoninWC said in TV Serieseseses:

    So I am loath to lose the 100 mbps and unlimited data just to unsubscribe from Foxtel so we are in a bit of a bind as we both really feel the Foxtel is no longer worth it.

    Huh, lots of ISPs have 100 mbps down (with unlimited. Plus, 80 down is probably more than good enough for what you want?

    So I guess it comes down to the 4K sport?

    @Nepia Not sure if they do, or at least most do. I think you will see most offer around 80 mbps because of the real world failure of most NBN installations to hit 100 mbps due to the various connection types - FTTP, FTTN, FTTC, HFC, etc.

    In fact, Telstra now only advertises their Premium Speed Service as "85Mbps typical evening speeds on Premium speed boost. FTTP and HFC only", no mention at all of 100 mbps and yes it does include unlimited data. This premium service costs $120 a month.

    It does say in the details on another page... "Sometimes we go even faster. From June - Nov 2019, most customers experienced average evening download speeds of 90Mbps"

    Where as we get an average of around 95-98 mbps in those times and I've seen speeds exceeding 100 mbps in the middle of the night gaming.

    Often on the Aussie based BF4 and V servers I will get a ping of 1, never more than 2 and other gamers always ask what I'm on.

    Poor wee things.
    1Gig is available here in little old NZ

    Yup, Aussie is utterly fucked for internet! Worse than most third world countries all thanks to the worst Government I've seen in the ~30 years I've lived here.

    The LNP who've now been in power since 2013 took what was an excellent plan and already being rolled out by Labour and just utterly destroyed it because of partisan politics.

    Actually the whole problem started when two inveterate spastics, namely Rudd and Conroy, decided they knew better than Telstra how to roll out a broadband network.

    They then decided that a government run monopoly would solve the market problems of a monopoly. They mandated a commercial return and that it had to be sold. The government doesn't own it, they simply run it. because what government department isn't excellent at running commercial ventures? To own it they'd have to buy the bonds, but they don't have the cash because for over a decade we've been running deficits.

    Then to fix these appalling fuckups, the Liberals decided to roll it out faster and cheaper, the net effect of which is a combination of the worst possible business model and technology choices.

    Actually, the litany of fuck ups goes back to Hawke joining OTC and Telecom. Then the Liberals didn't have the foresight to split the retail and wholesale sides when they sold it.

    The worst part is the market was actually slowly resolving the problem as markets fundamentally do through competition. If streaming services had started just five years earlier than they did with Netflix, we'd have better, faster, cheaper internet.



  • @voodoo said in internet/streaming:

    @Nepia Yep, That's Tone's hood. I'm in Fairlight, round the corner. We got NBN pretty quickly, one of the first streets. Paid for 25/5 initially to test it out, we have never got better than 17/3.5.

    That's your provider, not the NBN.



  • @antipodean said in internet/streaming:

    @RoninWC said in internet/streaming:

    @Crucial said in TV Serieseseses:

    @RoninWC said in TV Serieseseses:

    @Nepia said in TV Serieseseses:

    @RoninWC said in TV Serieseseses:

    So I am loath to lose the 100 mbps and unlimited data just to unsubscribe from Foxtel so we are in a bit of a bind as we both really feel the Foxtel is no longer worth it.

    Huh, lots of ISPs have 100 mbps down (with unlimited. Plus, 80 down is probably more than good enough for what you want?

    So I guess it comes down to the 4K sport?

    @Nepia Not sure if they do, or at least most do. I think you will see most offer around 80 mbps because of the real world failure of most NBN installations to hit 100 mbps due to the various connection types - FTTP, FTTN, FTTC, HFC, etc.

    In fact, Telstra now only advertises their Premium Speed Service as "85Mbps typical evening speeds on Premium speed boost. FTTP and HFC only", no mention at all of 100 mbps and yes it does include unlimited data. This premium service costs $120 a month.

    It does say in the details on another page... "Sometimes we go even faster. From June - Nov 2019, most customers experienced average evening download speeds of 90Mbps"

    Where as we get an average of around 95-98 mbps in those times and I've seen speeds exceeding 100 mbps in the middle of the night gaming.

    Often on the Aussie based BF4 and V servers I will get a ping of 1, never more than 2 and other gamers always ask what I'm on.

    Poor wee things.
    1Gig is available here in little old NZ

    Yup, Aussie is utterly fucked for internet! Worse than most third world countries all thanks to the worst Government I've seen in the ~30 years I've lived here.

    The LNP who've now been in power since 2013 took what was an excellent plan and already being rolled out by Labour and just utterly destroyed it because of partisan politics.

    Actually the whole problem started when two inveterate spastics, namely Rudd and Conroy, decided they knew better than Telstra how to roll out a broadband network.

    They then decided that a government run monopoly would solve the market problems of a monopoly. They mandated a commercial return and that it had to be sold. The government doesn't own it, they simply run it. because what government department isn't excellent at running commercial ventures? To own it they'd have to buy the bonds, but they don't have the cash because for over a decade we've been running deficits.

    Then to fix these appalling fuckups, the Liberals decided to roll it out faster and cheaper, the net effect of which is a combination of the worst possible business model and technology choices.

    Actually, the litany of fuck ups goes back to Hawke joining OTC and Telecom. Then the Liberals didn't have the foresight to split the retail and wholesale sides when they sold it.

    The worst part is the market was actually slowly resolving the problem as markets fundamentally do through competition. If streaming services had started just five years earlier than they did with Netflix, we'd have better, faster, cheaper internet.

    Nice rundown, now do one about the open skies agreement, Laurie Brereton and Ansett



  • @antipodean said in internet/streaming:

    @voodoo said in internet/streaming:

    @Nepia Yep, That's Tone's hood. I'm in Fairlight, round the corner. We got NBN pretty quickly, one of the first streets. Paid for 25/5 initially to test it out, we have never got better than 17/3.5.

    That's your provider, not the NBN.

    Yeah, maybe, but it seems to be a pretty common theme across most ISP's in Oz



  • I lived in a city for 13 years and when I left in 2018 I still had ADSL, I moved to the country and now get wireless 25/5 which is a great improvement but still a bit shit.

    I have my fingers crossed that Elon Musks new satellite broadband will be my saviour when he offers ridiculous speeds from space. No idea if it is possible but it would be cool if your phone could connect to Musks satellites so you could in theory never be out of signal or data.



  • Why the fuck doesn't Neon have subtitles?

    Piracy is superior ...



  • Neon doesn't have a lot of features, like 5.1 sound. Hopefully the platform will improve now that Sky has bought Lightbox.

    Speaking of subtitles, I am finding the subtitle option on Amazon Prime via my ATV frustrating. Sometimes the subtitles work just fine but other times I need to resort to English subtitles to understand foreign language dialogue. That also means everything is subtitled!



  • @Bovidae I find that so much of todays movies/series are done with poor audio volume and clarity of voices, I often turn subtitles on anyway, even when speaking English, otherwise when the inevtible fight/explosion/car chase etc comes on, the noise explodes form the TV speakers after having up so loud to hear the pesky talking stuff.

    Oh, get off my lawn.



  • @Bovidae @taniwharugby I hate English subtitles for english language. Drives me bonkers. I once had a German girlfriend who would insist we always have the English subtitles on (her English was pretty good) - I'm not 100% sure that insistence wasn't one of the reasons we broke up.



  • @Nepia I hate the ones that are purely literal translations, and some things make no sense.



  • Christ, Neon's browser playback requires flash, and constantly judders. What an absolute piece of shit.



  • Yeah sky is really stuck on flash, pathetic


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