6 Week Experiment



  • Good stuff mate.

    Like Bart will say Calories in vs calories out is key but I noticed a huge difference when I cut back on the carbs in conjunction with being on a calorie deficit. Never got calories as low as 1500 though as I was training heavy most the time and dont know if I would have lasted too well on only 1500.



  • [quote name='JK' timestamp='1368693932' post='366051']
    Good stuff mate.

    Like Bart will say Calories in vs calories out is key but I noticed a huge difference when I cut back on the carbs in conjunction with being on a calorie deficit. Never got calories as low as 1500 though as I was training heavy most the time and dont know if I would have lasted too well on only 1500.
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    I used Calories in vs Calories out to lose the 28Kg for that I ate 1300 every day for about 7 months. Was fine so 1500 is luxury compared to that. Like I said weight is no issue now at 78.5Kg and 1.78M I have the weight under control. Its the Fat percentage I want to sort. Thats the idea of dodging the carbs. and doing the heavy strength work, seems popular opinion is this is how they 'cut' in the body building world. If it does not work I will just find something else to try.



  • Well my body fat pincers did not arrive in time so not a good start, then cut the sole of my foot on a loose board in the apartment, so no running this week till it heals. I spent most of Sunday preparing food, and sorting out the exercise plan. The eating has started okay, easily under 100 grams of carbs and 1500 calories. Will be difficult to increase the calories once I hit 78.5Kg. If you don't eat many carbs its hard as hell to pad out your calories. So would be interested in any higher calorie low carb foods. Otherwise I will just have to start eating butter.

    The stats
    Height 1.78
    Weight 79.5kg
    Body Fat TBC (Will update when the pincers arrive)

    Strength training starts tomorrow.



  • High calories and low carb means lots of fats and protein mate. Plenty of good fats out there - almonds (natural) and other nuts - peanut butter, avocado, salmon and other fish

    Might get a bit boring though but hey just load up on green vege etc. Must say that I enjoy this diet much more in summer!

    Good luck with the training!



  • [quote name='JK' timestamp='1369124443' post='367136']
    High calories and low carb means lots of fats and protein mate. Plenty of good fats out there - almonds (natural) and other nuts - peanut butter, avocado, salmon and other fish

    Might get a bit boring though but hey just load up on green vege etc. Must say that I enjoy this diet much more in summer!

    Good luck with the training!
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    Cheers for the tips what is your policy on cheese? Its only milk, bacteria and time and low in carbs so I am thinking of allowing it but want the groups consensus before making a decision.

    Oh it is summer here or so they tell me. Hard to recognise through the sheets of rain.



  • I'm all for cheese mate but I'm no body builder that's for sure.



  • Go find a high protein cheese. Parmesan in block form is actually quite nice and the strong smell is due to the protein.

    Naturally the more processed it is, the worse it is for additives etc



  • [quote name='NTA' timestamp='1369137080' post='367176']
    Go find a high protein cheese. Parmesan in block form is actually quite nice and the strong smell is due to the protein.

    Naturally the more processed it is, the worse it is for additives etc
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    [quote name='JK' timestamp='1369134448' post='367170']
    I'm all for cheese mate but I'm no body builder that's for sure.
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    Thanks for that guys, quick bit of research has shown the harder cheeses seem to be higher in protein but all seem low in carbs. Comté seems as high as Parmesan so I have a few I can have regularly and a few I can have for a treat.



  • First strength session went okay need to adjust the program a little some exercises are too easy.

    Weight is falling quickly at this stage will be at goal weight in a week or so, so need to start thinking about how to up calories adding cheese and fruit will help.

    Body pincers still not arrived damn you ebay!!!



  • Second strength session done program a bit more balanced now so everything is tough at the last few reps. Only issue is a weird pain in my forearm during pull ups. A bit of googling says that its normal when you start activating these muscles. The other issue is the baby trying to climb on my back when I am doing planks. He thinks he's helping but seriously they are hard enough as it is.

    Eating is about to become an issue, the graphs say I am under eating at 1200 calories per day. Yet I am stuffing my face with meat and veggies at every meal. Not actually hungry at all. So when I hit the goal weight I am going to need to add Cheese, more fruits and nuts to get it up to parity. Either that or pad it out with protein shakes, not sure about doing this though any recommendations of high calorie low carb foods I have not through of would be appreciated.

    Mooshld



  • The stats after 1 Week
    Height 1.78
    Weight 78.7kg
    Body Fat 17.7%

    Strength stuff going well will probably make a few more tweaks to the program adding weight to some of the leg exercises this week.

    Running due to restart tomorrow, foot looking better, but will start slow as I don't need another week off from it.

    Eating going well added cheese over the weekend to try and decrease the rate of weight loss. If this does not do the trick will top up with protein powder.

    Mooshld



  • Target weight reached today 78.5KG Run went okay foot started to open up a bit so keeping them short for now.

    Now to increase Cals but keep carbs low should be testing.

    Mooshld



  • [quote name='mooshld' timestamp='1369383448' post='367603']
    Second strength session done program a bit more balanced now so everything is tough at the last few reps. Only issue is a weird pain in my forearm during pull ups. A bit of googling says that its normal when you start activating these muscles. [b]The other issue is the baby trying to climb on my back when I am doing planks. He thinks he's helping but seriously they are hard enough as it is.[/b]

    Eating is about to become an issue, the graphs say I am under eating at 1200 calories per day. Yet I am stuffing my face with meat and veggies at every meal. Not actually hungry at all. So when I hit the goal weight I am going to need to add Cheese, more fruits and nuts to get it up to parity. Either that or pad it out with protein shakes, not sure about doing this though any recommendations of high calorie low carb foods I have not through of would be appreciated.

    Mooshld
    [/quote]Harden up, I sometimes have to do push ups with a 3 and almost five year old on my back !!



  • Mooshld,

    Can you post what a 1500 calorie diet might look like (types and quantities of food) over a day, I'd be pretty interested but have no idea where to start,



  • [quote name='VV' timestamp='1369732513' post='368509']
    Mooshld,

    Can you post what a 1500 calorie diet might look like (types and quantities of food) over a day, I'd be pretty interested but have no idea where to start,
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    Sure have not been bang on 1500 though so here is what I ate yesterday I was not hungry after any of this but that could just be because I am getting used to it.

    Breakfast
    2 mini egg bacon and mushroom frittatas 140 Cals
    1 Banana 100 Cals

    Lunch
    Big salad of lettuce, tomato, picked onion, gherkins 150 Cals
    Smoked Sausage 200 Cals

    Dinner
    Massive bowl Curried Mince and Veggies. 600 Cals
    1 Peach 40

    So 1230 yesterday, no surprises I am losing weight quickly. Some days its more some its less. As you can see I eat 3 good meals so adding calories but not carbs is no simple task.



  • Strength training going well the pullups are the killer. Adding weight to some of the other exercises now to make life more difficult.

    Below goal weight so eating hard but clean to try and stop the drop.

    Mooshld.



  • Eating getting better weight still dropping but I think its slowing now. Exercise going well.

    The stats after 2nd Week
    Height 1.78
    Weight 78.1kg
    Body Fat 14.5%

    *Body fat has dropped massively, not sure if the measuring was less accurate then I thought it would be. The future weeks will determine that. From the visual test the wife says chest and stomach are the big losers abs getting more prominent especially lower ones, the love handles are being determined, we will see how much longer they can hang on for.

    Mooshld



  • Eating still on track. Not really missing the carbs, and quite enjoying the scrambled eggs for breakfast every morning.

    Exercise on track as well foot healed and getting back into the 4 runs per week has been great. The strength stuff is plodding along nicely.

    The good news is weight has started to stabilise.

    Mooshld



  • The stats after 3rd Week
    Height 1.78
    Weight 78kg
    Body Fat 12.9%

    Progress slowing weight is stabilising, eating a lot more cheese,nuts and fruit to make up the calorie deficit. Exercise is improving almost able to complete all the pull up sets!

    Mooshld



  • Run today, everything is tracking well and the weight has stopped dead at 78Kg so about where I want it.

    Need to get scan on leg surgeon is thinking opp to tidy up an old scarred achilles.

    Sounds like down time to me. Not good.