Best ODI XI - NOMINATIONS - Allrounders



  • For the purposes of this exercise, we will consider an all rounder anyone who is regularly used to bowl during a game and can a also do a decent job with the bat. In this instance, Kane is not an allrounder, he is a batsmen who very occasionally rolls the arm over.



  • I shouldn't really spoil his party but WTF - Chris Cairns

    His being @MN5



  • this is NZ Cricket. i expect the entire side to be guys who can do both

    Astle
    MacMillan
    Styrus
    Oram
    Andre Adams
    Chris Harris

    James Franklin
    Shane Thompson



  • @dogmeat said in Best ODI XI - NOMINATIONS - Allrounders:

    I shouldn't really spoil his party but WTF - Chris Cairns

    His being @MN5

    Actually I wouldn’t pick Cairns in an all time ODI team.



  • i sort of see a problem with how i would approach this

    all my favourite NZ ODI players are our bits and pieces wicket-to-wicket bowlers from back in the day. ie lots of those guys i named above. How can you have a NZ ODI team without Chris Harris.

    The problem is this. If they were thrown in to a game in 2020, they would get fucking murdered. That dibbly dobbly wicket to wicket stuff is going to get deposited in to the car park over and over again. Bog standard One Day players are going to hammer that shit.

    But I'm still gonna pick 'em



  • @mariner4life Yep Dibbly dobblys have place in a post T20 ODI side. Vettori is the closest that should make it. So I nominate him



  • @dogmeat said in Best ODI XI - NOMINATIONS - Allrounders:

    @mariner4life Yep Dibbly dobblys have place in a post T20 ODI side. Vettori is the closest that should make it. So I nominate him

    I'm still picking Chris Harris.

    Come at me.



  • Corianders son



  • @mariner4life said in Best ODI XI - NOMINATIONS - Allrounders:

    i sort of see a problem with how i would approach this

    all my favourite NZ ODI players are our bits and pieces wicket-to-wicket bowlers from back in the day. ie lots of those guys i named above. How can you have a NZ ODI team without Chris Harris.

    The problem is this. If they were thrown in to a game in 2020, they would get fucking murdered. That dibbly dobbly wicket to wicket stuff is going to get deposited in to the car park over and over again. Bog standard One Day players are going to hammer that shit.

    But I'm still gonna pick 'em

    I'm of the opinion you judge them in conjunction with where the game was at as a whole, at that time.

    Take Glen Turner for instance, average of 47, but a strike rate of only 68 which is unacceptable now days, where at the time it was probably about par. So we'd be mad if he isn't included in this team with those numbers.



  • I’d take Harris too. Cairns can make the ODI side as a batsman



  • Cdg
    Oram
    Vettori
    The Hairy Jav
    Styris
    Lance Cairns



  • @mariner4life said in Best ODI XI - NOMINATIONS - Allrounders:

    i sort of see a problem with how i would approach this

    all my favourite NZ ODI players are our bits and pieces wicket-to-wicket bowlers from back in the day. ie lots of those guys i named above. How can you have a NZ ODI team without Chris Harris.

    The problem is this. If they were thrown in to a game in 2020, they would get fucking murdered. That dibbly dobbly wicket to wicket stuff is going to get deposited in to the car park over and over again. Bog standard One Day players are going to hammer that shit.

    But I'm still gonna pick 'em

    And this is why you can't pick an All-Time ODI using "conventional metrics". I think you just have to ask yourself "who are our best ODI players of all time" and squeeze them in somehow. If that means playing someone slightly out of position then so what? They only have to play for 11 hours.



  • Do you have to pick a 'soecislist" all rounder? Or will we end up with several just picking our best batsmen and best bowlers anyway?


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