Crusaders v Blues



  • Crusaders pretty much dominated the whole game but geez they lack penetration in the backline. Nadolo is good with a run up but macilai hardly saw the ball and the rest were very meh.
    Said it after the last game but with Crotty, Dagg and Fruen (is he coming back?) added to their backs they will look a lot better.
    Thought a lot of the guys tana swapped in this week looked crap. Having said that i hope R Ioane get a shot on one of the wings soon.



  • Lol we got away with not getting hammered by 50 tonight. If Tana didn't know what his best team was he sure should know by now. Some shocking performances from certain players. Waste of 30 bucks watching that shit but no time to panic just yet. We should see our strongest side from next week onwards.



  • Waste of 30 bucks watching that shit but no time to panic just yet.

    You should get a season ticket bro, much better value ūüôā



  • You should get a season ticket bro, much better value ūüôā

    If I was a Crusaders fan I definitely would. It's bloody expensive otherwise haha.



  • That was a bad miss by him on Nadolo allowing him to get up a huge head of steam like that resulted in the try which decided the game

    Think you being pretty harsh on Blake there, if you watch that again I would not think too many players could of got to Nadolo from that position, he was almost past him before he got ball, great run by Nadolo and well timed pass I thought, though I thought Duffie's attempt at an almost tackle was pretty weak. Actually thought Duffie was worst of a not very flash Blues team, and wonder what the hell he brings to the team.



  • We've still got big issues from 10 out, although Richie looked a little more composed than last week and Nadolo and Havili got into the game a bit.
    Neither teams midfields did anything of note.
    Pack looked good and we got a bit of impact off the bench from our reserve fatties.
    Good to get a win, but I'm not expecting too much different until we get one of our midfield players back.



  • Smell ya later Auckland.
     
    My prediction that the Blues with a new coach and a bit of luck could finish as high as 11th, now seems way off the mark.
     
    We were SHITHOUSE and that was a reasonably close thing. We really coulda shoulda woulda have put a thousand on them. Megacoach Tits-For-Hands' inspired changes will only add to Kirwans' self-loathing.
     
    Crotty, Dagg, McNicholl and Freuan (if he has the ticker) change the state of this backline immensely, nice to get an early season winza win when we normally drop these games.



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  • Are the Chiefs and Blues scrums (and by extension the Highlanders' scrum which could not dominate the Blues in this phase) that crap or is the Crusaders scrum incredibly strong ?



  • Smell ya later Auckland.
     
    My prediction that the Blues with a new coach and a bit of luck could finish as high as 11th, now seems way off the mark.
     
    We were SHITHOUSE and that was a reasonably close thing. We really coulda shoulda woulda have put a thousand on them. Megacoach Tits-For-Hands' inspired changes will only add to Kirwans' self-loathing.
     
    Crotty, Dagg, McNicholl and Freuan (if he has the ticker) change the state of this backline immensely, nice to get an early season winza win when we normally drop these games.

    Who are you trying to kid? The absolute cluelessness amongst the Saders back line tonight was the exact same shit we've seen from the Saders for Toddy's entire run as coach. Those four aren't going to change much, just like going through three backs coaches didn't change much.



  • Smell ya later Auckland.
    My prediction that the Blues with a new coach and a bit of luck could finish as high as 11th, now seems way off the mark.
    We were SHITHOUSE and that was a reasonably close thing. We really coulda shoulda woulda have put a thousand on them. Megacoach Tits-For-Hands' inspired changes will only add to Kirwans' self-loathing.
    Crotty, Dagg, McNicholl and Freuan (if he has the ticker) change the state of this backline immensely, nice to get an early season winza win when we normally drop these games.

    McNicholl? You are kidding yourself.
    This is what i want to see if they are ever all fit.
    9. Ellis
    10. Mounga
    11. Nadolo
    12. Crotty
    13. Fruen/Havili (Fruen to go hard until he runs out of steam or on the bench for impact)
    14. Macilai
    15. Dagg



  • Lol McNicholl . Canerbry's forgotten to take his medication as usual.



  • Lol McNicholl . Canerbry's forgotten to take his medication as usual.

    Not sure Blues supporters can laugh at anyone really



  • Not sure Blues supporters can laugh at anyone really

    We can when people make stupid calls like that.
     
    I love it how people are saying that we're back and that it'll be a great season after one game, and then say it's gonna be a long season after one loss where we put a half strength team out. As I said earlier, we never win in Chch so it was a perfect time to experiment as the target is to win the next two games before the bye (at least it should be anyway).



  • Mo'unga looks good.¬† I feel a bit more relaxed about the FH situation.¬† Can't wait to have Dagg and Crotty back - Dagg can go to 15, and we can pair Havili and Crotty in the centres.¬† Fonatia can start reading about the delights of Wales.
     
    I reckon Romano will never play for NZ again - Beauden's bro and Tupou already look (much) better.  Also, surely Moody has leapfrogged Crockett.
     
    Tana really farked up his starting XV there - should have stuck with the same halves from last week.



  • Yeah will be interesting to see how Moody goes this year ,¬†
     
    Went under the radar , but he probably was the Beaver of the 2015 WC



  • but he probably was the Beaver of the 2015 WC

    Saw a few did you? Lucky bastard.
     
    I would have been lucky if I saw just the one during the WC, considering my wife was pregnant and vomiting every 5 minutes.



  • We've still got big issues from 10 out, although Richie looked a little more composed than last week and Nadolo and Havili got into the game a bit.
    Neither teams midfields did anything of note.
    Pack looked good and we got a bit of impact off the bench from our reserve fatties.
    Good to get a win, but I'm not expecting too much different until we get one of our midfield players back.

    Probably didn't help losing Wainui after about 5 minutes. We ended up with the Makos midfield of Havili and Fonotia - and Volavola at fullback.
     
    Things should improve when Crotty, Dagg and Freuan return - though I'd like to see a Crotty-Wainui midfield, with Freuan off the bench against tiring defences. And this assumes that Dagg's knees aren't shot.
     
    The lack of penetration still a worry. The Crusaders just seem to have to work so much harder to score tries than other teams.
     
    On the plus side, there won't be many teams with a better set piece than us - and Mo'unga looks pretty viable.



  • When the Crusaders had sets of phases I though Ellis took the ball the wrong way a number of times, it seemed he was creating space on one side, only to take it back to the other, think it was particularly noticable in the 20 phase section just before half time I think it was, that ended with a dumb grubber, a couple of times when the camera zoomed out, you saw Macilai in space, you'd of thought getting him the ball in space rather than throwing it back to Nadolo to try to bust through in traffic might be a better tactic.



  • The Blues with all their talent should have won by 15 against a terrible Crusaders team,but once again a terrible coach holds them back. Is it that hard for the Blues to find someone not on an ego trip.



  • The Blues with all their talent should have won by 15 against a terrible Crusaders team,but once again a terrible coach holds them back. Is it that hard for the Blues to find someone not on an ego trip.

    Terrible Crusaders team? They weren't terrible. They need injured players like Dagg, Fruean and Crotty back, but apart from that they're okay (halves) or good (forward pack).



  • Only watched the highlights, and it was bloody awful. Imagine watching the full 80.



  • So what do you Blues supporters think?

    Blues rotation policy unlikely to changeMonday 7 Mar 2016 3:31 p.m.
     The Blues rotation tactics are unlikely to change despite their 28-13 loss to the Crusaders in Christchurch.The decision to drop backs Ihaia West and Bryn Hall for Friday's game after they starred in an upset first round win over the Highlanders left many puzzled.Coach Tana Umaga said history showed an entire squad wins the competition and he believes everyone deserves an opportunity."Obviously the first game was great but you've got to be able to back that up and we need to have players right across, we've got a big squad and we've got to keep those guys interested and we believe that guys deserve opportunity and we want to keep doing that," Umaga said."We made a lot of decisions and changes in our backs but we couldn't get front foot ball.Umaga said the Crusaders deserved credit as the Blues failed to get into gear."You have to take your hat off to the Crusaders. They're a good side and they didn't allow us to get our game going and they show the amount of pressure we're going to come up against in this competition."In a cauldron you get when you head down to Christchurch and when you come up against a team that's pretty determined, obviously they weren't too happy with their performance the week before so they came out pretty motivated and we weren't able to withstand that."We were trying to pressure ourselves into doing things and maybe we got a bit frustrated."All Blacks Charlie Faumuina isn't expected to return from his hamstring injury yet with Umaga saying they were still managing the situation.The Blues host the Hurricanes at Eden Park on Friday.Newshub.



  • I doubt he'll go to those extreme measures again. I'm sure he'll keep giving guys a run but not change the whole side at once like he did on Friday.



  • I'm still pretty relaxed about it. ¬†Tana knows what he is doing. ¬†I think our objective for the year is >3 wins and build a squad. ¬†Tana will give a lotof people opportunity I reckon, and then bin them if he doesn't think they can step up. ¬†As people have said, losing in Chch is something that has happened for so long that another one doesn't really matter.
     
    Positives:
    we were under the cosh for an entire half and still only a try behind
    Defence scrambled well (like last week)
    We only (!) conceded 25 despite being smashed all over the paddock
    Scrum came good in the second half
     
    Cons
    We were under the cosh all game
    Halves seemed not to know each other
     
     
    All in all, we have so little experience in the squad that for me this year is about building a base for the future.



  • youd like to think he is working toward a plan, and that plan has plenty of leeway in 2016, well if he was smart he'd of had some very low KPIs put in his contract for year one anyway.



  • There is giving guys an opportunity and there is rotating guys so much that none get a run of form and all lose confidence.
    IMO players should get a shot in a near full strength team. Not one where 50% has been swapped out from the week before.
    The ABs used to do the wholesale changes but have wound it back more recently and it seems to be a better gauge of players.



  • Yes rotating for rotation's sake seems like a recipe for failure. Tana Umaga seems like he's in a rush to give experience to his wider squad, when the reality is doing so takes time. Years even. He would be much better off trying to play his best XV, and then using his reserves bench to blood youngsters whom he wants to develop. Over the course of the entire season it is more than likely that many of his wider squad members get more time as the impact of injuries increases.



  • I wasnt impressed with the changes or the way they played on the weekend, but I think its a bit early to judge him ,¬†
     
    Before the season started , and he  studied the  draw , current champions first game , followed by  the Crusaders away ,  if you offered him 1 win from 2 , Im sure he would happily take that , 
     
     lets see what happens next , Blues vs Canes ,  Canes should be desperate , will be interesting


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