Liam Messam shock AB recall ?



  • Genuine question, didn't make the Sevens team and Dixon didn't set the world on fire, stranger things have happened.....after all the welcome mat would have been out for SBW had he not made it I'm sure.
     
    Any chance he could do it or have the ABs moved on from him ?



  • Well he is off to Toshiba shortly if that answers your question.



  • Well he is off to Toshiba shortly if that answers your question.

    Well that's the end of that thread then.



  • Yes I've noticed the AB water bottle carrier standards have not been world class this season. Definitely would be a massive boost to have Liam back.



  • Yes I've noticed the AB water bottle carrier standards have not been world class this season. Definitely would be a massive boost to have Liam back.

    Thought AC did quite a good job in Dunners ...



  • And suuurrely Luatua is closer ...



  • Thought AC did quite a good job in Dunners ...

    1. Did he wear a cap back to front?
    2. Did he get involved in a fight?
      I feel Liam brings a hard edge which has been missing so far this season. You just know England will soon have an enforcer in the water bottle carrier role.


  • Genuine question, didn't make the Sevens team and Dixon didn't set the world on fire, stranger things have happened.....after all the welcome mat would have been out for SBW had he not made it I'm sure.
    Any chance he could do it or have the ABs moved on from him ?

    Is this a Messam thread or another thread where you have a go at SBW?
    Genuine question.....



  • Is this a Messam thread or another thread where you have a go at SBW?
    Genuine question.....

    Statement of fact. Had he not made it I bet he'd be in the ABs.



  • why would it be a shock?  He's never let the side down, is a genuine leader/mentor to younger players and if he still has the skills, why not?  Given his 7's break, he's probably fitter than he's ever been before.



  • why would it be a shock?  He's never let the side down, is a genuine leader/mentor to younger players and if he still has the skills, why not?  Given his 7's break, he's probably fitter than he's ever been before.

    Well ok, not a shock of Donald proportions but still a definite surprise.



  • Donald wasn't an omission, was all part of the plan, made for better viewing!



  • Donald wasn't an omission, was all part of the plan, made for better viewing!

    Well my facebook feed says that he's getting recalled this year, definitely true if it's on there.



  • Well ok, not a shock of Donald proportions but still a definite surprise.

    so when they both get recalls..???



  • Yes I've noticed the AB water bottle carrier standards have not been world class this season. Definitely would be a massive boost to have Liam back.

    Certainly given that the AB water carrier will be lined up against Nathan Gray. I think a hard man like Messam is needed to counter that threat.



  • I think with Messam who has just turned 32 and was a mainstay in the ABs (started at blindside whilst Kaino went OS), will be given every opportunity by the coaches to be brought back. Well I hope so any way. I think he's got just as much if not more to offer than Squire, Dixon, Luatua have.



  • I'm not sure if the coaches will want to carry another backrower who is in their 30s.



  • I'm not sure if the coaches will want to carry another backrower who is in their 30s.

    We currently only have two backrowers in their 30s and neither of them are in the "Brad Thorn 30s" category (read 30 and Kaino 33)....
     
    The Lions series will be a big carrot for Kaino and Messam given they were not in the AB squad back in 2005.



  • We currently only have two backrowers in their 30s and neither of them are in the "Brad Thorn 30s" category (read 30 and Kaino 33)....
     
    The Lions series will be a big carrot for Kaino and Messam given they were not in the AB squad back in 2005.

    One's captain and the other is first choice in his position. They're hardly being "carried"
     
    I can't be fucked looking it up but is anyone else even 30 in the team ?



  • Ben Smith and Romano are both 30.