Julian savea



  • I'm really concerned with Julian savea! I thought he would play his way into form but don't seem to be happening.
    Maybe it's time to leave him out of rugby championship and hope the break does him good.
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  • If you kick or pass to him at the moment he wont catch it, his confidence is shot. Is his personal life, ok could be a factor. Leave him out of all rugby until next super rugby season with some strong training goals so he doesn't end up being a KFC advert.



  • who do we replace him with? Naholo, Smith and Dagg as the back three, but omitting Julian will open a spot in the wider squad. Maybe pick Moala as centre/wing cover?



  • If you kick or pass to him at the moment he wont catch it, his confidence is shot. Is his personal life, ok could be a factor. Leave him out of all rugby until next super rugby season with some strong training goals so he doesn't end up being a KFC advert.

    If you give him nothing to do for six months, his weight will blow up. He needs to be playing rugby.



  • If you give him nothing to do for six months, his weight will blow up. He needs to be playing rugby.

    Well what he's doing now is not playing rugby, he is a liability to the Canes going into a final. look at last years final, If he catches the pass the Canes are 2015 Champions. Weight is about discipline, of what you put in your mouth and what exercise you do. Sounds like your calling him a lazy fuck in the off season which from what I have seen your probably right .



  • who do we replace him with? Naholo, Smith and Dagg as the back three, but omitting Julian will open a spot in the wider squad. Maybe pick Moala as centre/wing cover?

    Nanai?
    Personally prefer to see him playing thiugh.



  • he doesn't really look fat anymore though does he? and he used to be able to catch.
     
    yeah he's been shit, but i think you keep him in the squad. not near the xv at present though for me. not with the way waisake got that ball down in the corner.



  • Well what he's doing now is not playing rugby, he is a liability to the Canes going into a final. look at last years final, If he catches the pass the Canes are 2015 Champions. Weight is about discipline, of what you put in your mouth and what exercise you do. Sounds like your calling him a lazy fuck in the off season which from what I have seen your probably right .

    If he doesn't make that great tackle on the goal line, the Hurricanes lose by more.



  • i think you keep him in the squad. not near the xv at present though for me. not with the way waisake got that ball down in the corner.

    That would be my plan. Moala into the squad to cover wing (since Ngatai seems gone and judging by last night Tamanivalu might not be far behind).



  • I think if you have Moala and Naholo in the squad, Savea offers you little. Savea is probably competing with someone like McKenzie.



  • I think if you have Moala and Naholo in the squad, Savea offers you little. Savea is probably competing with someone like McKenzie.

    Yeah - if you assume Ngatai is out of the 32, then Moala comes in and then one player needs to go to allow a third halfback - McKenzie or Savea?
     
    Since we've got three other fullbacks, I'm inclined to think it should be DMac (who can bide his time) and the coaches can work on Savea.
     
    Brutal finals series coming up, so most likely an injury will decide anyway.



  • I think if you have Moala and Naholo in the squad, Savea offers you little. Savea is probably competing with someone like McKenzie.

    In what way?



  • If you give him nothing to do for six months, his weight will blow up. He needs to be playing rugby.

    He has something to do. It's called the ITM cup.



  • He has something to do. It's called the ITM cup.

    Nothing will inspire him to get better like rows and rows of empty yellow seats.



  • Savea aside I REALLY hope Moala is in the RC squad. I hope not playing finals footy doesn't count against him, he has so much upside.



  • Savea aside I REALLY hope Moala is in the RC squad. I hope not playing finals footy doesn't count against him, he has so much upside.

    Shit yeah, how that Chiefs bloke who's name I can't spell got picked ahead of him is anyones fucken guess and time isn't gonna stand still just in case Ngatais head comes right.



  • If you give him nothing to do for six months, his weight will blow up. He needs to be playing rugby.

    Right, so the All Black selection trials are really to keep fat lazy bunts off the streets. :fishing:



  • In what way?

    Well, you aren't going to pick both Naholo and Savea in the starting line up, IMO. We already have Dagg and Ben Smith as certs so we have two players fighting for one position. If Naholo is our best left wing, then what is Savea's role? Savea isn't an option for the bench (Naholo is an option for the bench as he has come on at 13). If Naholo goes down the day before a game and if you still want a power winger, you have Moala to give you that option.
     
    If you still think that Savea is a better player than Naholo then you definitely pick Savea in the squad. I just haven't seen much evidence of that over the last couple of weeks.



  • He has something to do. It's called the ITM cup.

    Right, so the All Black selection trials are really to keep fat lazy bunts off the streets. :fishing:

    Wreck Driver was suggesting he has six months off. I probably wouldn't pick J. Savea in the All Blacks at all but I would definitely make him play ITM Cup.



  • [pedant] have to be a time traveller to play ITM Cup [/pedant]