Hawkes Bay v Counties Manukau



  • Magpies team to play Counties:

    1. Ricky Riccitelli
    2. Ash Dixon (c)
    3. Ben May
    4. Geoff Cridge
    5. Mark Abbott
    6. Trent Boswell-Wakefield
    7. Ben Hamelink
    8. Fa'alemiga Selesele
    9. Brad Weber
    10. Ihaia West
    11. Mason Emerson
    12. Billy Ropiha
    13. Jonah Lowe
    14. Robbie Fruean
    15. Ryan Tongia
       
      Reserves:
    16. Jorian Tangaere  17. Jason Long  18. Tolu Fahamokioa  19. Ross Filipo  20. Hugh Renton  21. Ellery Wilson  22. Tiaan Falcon  23. Matt Garland
       
      Hope this new line-up with Fruean at 14 and Tongia at 15 will work better. Lewis Marshall is paying for his mistakes (missing a tackle - leading to a try - and tackling Tongia in the process, is one example from last game).
      Good to see TBW back; not too sure about Hamelink getting a start, although Lamborn doesn't seem to do too well at 7 (under the new rules).


  • Marshall is unavailable due to concussion, and Lamborn unavailable due to illness.



  • Marshall is unavailable due to concussion, and Lamborn unavailable due to illness.

    Thanks for clearing that up.
     
    Another concussion. I wonder why so many players our out with concussion these days. Are they only now taking concussion seriously, or are the numbers really increasing? If it's the latter, why?



  • Thanks for clearing that up.
     
    Another concussion. I wonder why so many players our out with concussion these days. Are they only now taking concussion seriously, or are the numbers really increasing? If it's the latter, why?

    More head knocks, I would say



  • McNicol and Chase are both still out due to concussion.
     
    Boswell-Wakefield is back from the shoulder injury he sustained in the final pre-season match v North Harbour.



  • Lewis Marshall is paying for his mistakes (missing a tackle - leading to a try - and tackling Tongia in the process, is one example from last game).

    If missing a tackle leading to a try was the reason then Mr. Phillpot would be struggling to name a 15 such were the numbers that would be excluded after the Taranaki match. Hopefully things will improve in the tackling stakes, it could hardly get any worse.



  • If missing a tackle leading to a try was the reason then Mr. Phillpot would be struggling to name a 15 such were the numbers that would be excluded after the Taranaki match. Hopefully things will improve in the tackling stakes, it could hardly get any worse.

    Didn't note the "is one example" in my comment? But you're right that defence has been a huge issue for a lot of players. I wonder whether/how much the new rules (or inability to adapt to these rules & the refs interpretation of them) has really played a role.
     
    I hope they've watched Otago play, because they seem to have found a good way of playing under these rules.



  • Sad to say but a very unispiring start by the Bay and it's already HB 0 -  3 Counties (drop goal to Piers Francis) after just three minuntes. The Bay yet to get their hands on the ball.



  • Despite a huge demolition of the Counties scrum they still manage to win a penatly from the reset which results in a scabby kick and chase try to Counties HB 00 - 10. Eight minutes gone.



  • Take the points you muppets! A HB penalty direct in front 15 metres out and they kick for touch and then stuff the lineout up.



  • A take the points plea after another penalty in a similar position to the last one.



  • What an average start.
     
    Can't say I've seen anything of note from this Samoan 7s player at 8.



  • Thankfully commonsense prevails and Ihaia West converts the opportunity into three points. HB  03 - 10 Counties after 15 minutes



  • What an average start.
     
    Can't say I've seen anything of note from this Samoan 7s player at 8.

    Give Mikaele Tu'u a chance I say



  • What an average start.
     
    Can't say I've seen anything of note from this Samoan 7s player at 8.

    Agreed on both counts (Mike Coman might not have been so bad after all!!!!) but somehow the Bay manage to score a try wide out on the right to Robbie Fruean and its nicely converted by West HB  10 - 10  Counties after twenty minutes



  • That should never have been a try to Counties, foot on the line by Counties at the start of that movement



  • HB tackling is pathetic



  • If the tactic by the coach is to kick it away and we can't tackle, how do they expect to win



  • That should never have been a try to Counties, foot on the line by Counties at the start of that movement

    Yeah we seem to suffer at the hands of touch judges and TMOs in Napier



  • URRRGGGGGGHHH, how much more of this shit can someone take as Counties score a rediculously easy converted try



  • TMO screwing us again



  • Now Selesele manages to find another way of butchering a try. Why do my guys make try scoring look so difficult?



  • This five metre scrum must bring a try to the Bay



  • No, they manage to find someway to avoid that despite the scrum having looked good in most scrums prior to that.



  • FFS that was balking by Pulu



  • A deliberate infringement by him should have resulted in a yellow card.



  • What was that penalty??



  • this ref is just guessing at everything



  • if HB did not give up 4 or 5 soft tries each game, they could be competitive



  • That should never have been a try to Counties, foot on the line by Counties at the start of that movement

    I'm sitting in the Harris Stand and looked foot on the line from where I am
    did TV show it?



  • Clear as daylight, I never miss any infringements against HB!



  • How did the ref decide that was where the penalty should be when it was for a man in front?



  • Agreed on both counts (Mike Coman might not have been so bad after all!!!!) but somehow the Bay manage to score a try wide out on the right to Robbie Fruean and its nicely converted by West HB  10 - 10  Counties after twenty minutes

    Lets not get silly!

    I'm sitting in the Harris Stand and looked foot on the line from where I am
    did TV show it?

    Weirdly they didn't show a replay.



  • Remember this is supposed to be the easier part of the season, with a decent gap between games



  • FFS even the scrum has turned to shit



  • Now even the scrum has turned to custard



  • But as long as they are enjoying themselves Mr Philpott



  • Peter Russell was given the archer after taking the team to promotion. Wonder what will be the prize for winning relegation will be for this coaching outfit?



  • Just in case anyone is interested the score has ballooned out to HB 13 - 31 Counties after fifty minutes.



  • Ben May has gone down in the last two scrums, but thats ok as he was signed for his experience too bad they did not factor in his scrummaging ability.


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