Highlanders 2025
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@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
Highlanders Lean on Youth for Crusaders Clash
Injuries, especially among experienced players, continue to plague the Highlanders, and on the eve of their DHL Super Rugby Pacific game against the Crusaders, they have lost wing Jonah Nareki to a torn meniscus.
Article here with a couple of interesting pieces of info - Adam Lennox is seen as a player of the future for the highlanders. Which presumably means Hastie is gone next season.
JJ mentions Nareki will be given some time off to get ready for the 2026 super rugby season. Which to me indicates he’s been re signed.
I reckon there could be four halfbacks in the squad with Lennox also offering some availability to the outside backs
Looking at what we (hopefully) have signed up I don't envisage four halfbacks, simply because it would put too much of a squeeze on what we can do with the rest of the backline. If Hastie is your fourth rated halfback, you might as well get a third fullback instead.
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@frugby said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
Highlanders Lean on Youth for Crusaders Clash
Injuries, especially among experienced players, continue to plague the Highlanders, and on the eve of their DHL Super Rugby Pacific game against the Crusaders, they have lost wing Jonah Nareki to a torn meniscus.
Article here with a couple of interesting pieces of info - Adam Lennox is seen as a player of the future for the highlanders. Which presumably means Hastie is gone next season.
JJ mentions Nareki will be given some time off to get ready for the 2026 super rugby season. Which to me indicates he’s been re signed.
I reckon there could be four halfbacks in the squad with Lennox also offering some availability to the outside backs
Looking at what we (hopefully) have signed up I don't envisage four halfbacks, simply because it would put too much of a squeeze on what we can do with the rest of the backline. If Hastie is your fourth rated halfback, you might as well get a third fullback instead.
We need to be careful about cutting several contracts short. Hastie is still under contract for next year.
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@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@frugby said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
Highlanders Lean on Youth for Crusaders Clash
Injuries, especially among experienced players, continue to plague the Highlanders, and on the eve of their DHL Super Rugby Pacific game against the Crusaders, they have lost wing Jonah Nareki to a torn meniscus.
Article here with a couple of interesting pieces of info - Adam Lennox is seen as a player of the future for the highlanders. Which presumably means Hastie is gone next season.
JJ mentions Nareki will be given some time off to get ready for the 2026 super rugby season. Which to me indicates he’s been re signed.
I reckon there could be four halfbacks in the squad with Lennox also offering some availability to the outside backs
Looking at what we (hopefully) have signed up I don't envisage four halfbacks, simply because it would put too much of a squeeze on what we can do with the rest of the backline. If Hastie is your fourth rated halfback, you might as well get a third fullback instead.
We need to be careful about cutting several contracts short. Hastie is still under contract for next year.
From what I hear, we are well under our spending cap. If we have three halfbacks on the books, then there is no harm in cutting Hastie. What this probably speaks to, is the abominable decisions in giving promising, but hardly world-beating youngsters three-year contracts.
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@Chris Morgan definitely a starter, would be good with Fakatava
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@upthelanders maybe Morgan is an option although I've got a contact who has gotten little things right before such as who are our recent wider training squad members, told me about Lennox, Loft back in the summer. He reckons landers are trying to work something out with Josh Jacomb. Meihana Grindlay very likely to be Gilbert's replacement.
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@frugby said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@frugby said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
Highlanders Lean on Youth for Crusaders Clash
Injuries, especially among experienced players, continue to plague the Highlanders, and on the eve of their DHL Super Rugby Pacific game against the Crusaders, they have lost wing Jonah Nareki to a torn meniscus.
Article here with a couple of interesting pieces of info - Adam Lennox is seen as a player of the future for the highlanders. Which presumably means Hastie is gone next season.
JJ mentions Nareki will be given some time off to get ready for the 2026 super rugby season. Which to me indicates he’s been re signed.
I reckon there could be four halfbacks in the squad with Lennox also offering some availability to the outside backs
Looking at what we (hopefully) have signed up I don't envisage four halfbacks, simply because it would put too much of a squeeze on what we can do with the rest of the backline. If Hastie is your fourth rated halfback, you might as well get a third fullback instead.
We need to be careful about cutting several contracts short. Hastie is still under contract for next year.
From what I hear, we are well under our spending cap. If we have three halfbacks on the books, then there is no harm in cutting Hastie. What this probably speaks to, is the abominable decisions in giving promising, but hardly world-beating youngsters three-year contracts.
It is a bad look cutting a whole lot of contracts early from a reputation perspective. In terms of Hastie. He hasn't performed poorly. The team needs to look like it is a good safe environment landing spot foe players. Culling guys may spook players.
Interesting @Grooter says about trying to get Jacomb out of the second year of his Chiefs contract. I know you were the lad who dropped the departing players a few days before it was published last year. So some good runs on the board. Hopefully this reflects a push from NZR to be a bit of a guiding hand, and have a decent spread of players.
Grindlay would be a decent pick up. Good that Nareki is sticking around. The Nareki, Tangitau and JRK back three with Hurley being a 30 minute man is one I'm keen to see next year.
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@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@frugby said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@frugby said in Highlanders 2025:
@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
Highlanders Lean on Youth for Crusaders Clash
Injuries, especially among experienced players, continue to plague the Highlanders, and on the eve of their DHL Super Rugby Pacific game against the Crusaders, they have lost wing Jonah Nareki to a torn meniscus.
Article here with a couple of interesting pieces of info - Adam Lennox is seen as a player of the future for the highlanders. Which presumably means Hastie is gone next season.
JJ mentions Nareki will be given some time off to get ready for the 2026 super rugby season. Which to me indicates he’s been re signed.
I reckon there could be four halfbacks in the squad with Lennox also offering some availability to the outside backs
Looking at what we (hopefully) have signed up I don't envisage four halfbacks, simply because it would put too much of a squeeze on what we can do with the rest of the backline. If Hastie is your fourth rated halfback, you might as well get a third fullback instead.
We need to be careful about cutting several contracts short. Hastie is still under contract for next year.
From what I hear, we are well under our spending cap. If we have three halfbacks on the books, then there is no harm in cutting Hastie. What this probably speaks to, is the abominable decisions in giving promising, but hardly world-beating youngsters three-year contracts.
It is a bad look cutting a whole lot of contracts early from a reputation perspective. In terms of Hastie. He hasn't performed poorly. The team needs to look like it is a good safe environment landing spot foe players. Culling guys may spook players.
Yeah I agree… though in a world where he was fourth cab, would Hastie want to stay anyway? Wonder if there is a world where we could do a bit of a swapsies with the Canes or Blues?
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Replacement for Gilbert would be a loose term? Who knows what we need from a 12/13 perspective. If Tele'a doesn’t stick around Grindlay is a fairly similar player.
Yeah I agree with @Bovidae you can't just boot guys without paying them out. Unless a new home is found for them. Hastie could be an option to be a third halfback at the Chiefs. That could assist bargaining with a potential Jacomb move.
Lowe's recent form could also be career saving as well.
Also, Waisake Salibu was with the team during pre-season. I wonder if they are still tracking him.
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Assuming Lennox is signed next season, I'm guessing JJ feels that Tangitau, Manson, Lowe, and Nareki can cover wing. With Te Hiwi, Whaanga, Big Jim, Kneepkens, and Lennox as backup options in a pinch (for example, Hurley at fullback and Kneepkens shifting to wing). Te Hiwi covered wing this season for half a game. Depending on the mix maybe Filimone gets the final wing spot if we do have one available / don't recruit another loose forward.
Given TUJ is off contract at the end of next year and will be 28 or 29, you'd have to assume he'll head overseas. While Telea is presently 50/50 on staying or going, I think Grindlay makes a lot of sense. Te Hiwi has yet to kick on, and there's no guarantee we keep him post-2026. If that is the case, suddenly for 2027 you're potentially looking at a Whaanga–Big Jim combo with a raw young Tayne Hervey on the bench.
Lowe's form has been one of the biggest turn arounds I can recall in recent years of a player no one rated. Given he's our second best try scorer for the season and he clearly loves the deep south (and a long term stable contract) then I'd give him another couple of years. He's probably a great squad player and in a pinch can cover midfield too.
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I'm not sure us sending you Jacomb, who we do want, and getting a half back, who you don't want, makes for a very good deal for us.
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@handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:
Assuming Lennox is signed next season, I'm guessing JJ feels that Tangitau, Manson, Lowe, and Nareki can cover wing. With Te Hiwi, Whaanga, Big Jim, Kneepkens, and Lennox as backup options in a pinch (for example, Hurley at fullback and Kneepkens shifting to wing). Te Hiwi covered wing this season for half a game. Depending on the mix maybe Filimone gets the final wing spot if we do have one available / don't recruit another loose forward.
Given TUJ is off contract at the end of next year and will be 28 or 29, you'd have to assume he'll head overseas. While Telea is presently 50/50 on staying or going, I think Grindlay makes a lot of sense. Te Hiwi has yet to kick on, and there's no guarantee we keep him post-2026. If that is the case, suddenly for 2027 you're potentially looking at a Whaanga–Big Jim combo with a raw young Tayne Hervey on the bench.
Lowe's form has been one of the biggest turn arounds I can recall in recent years of a player no one rated. Given he's our second best try scorer for the season and he clearly loves the deep south (and a long term stable contract) then I'd give him another couple of years. He's probably a great squad player and in a pinch can cover midfield too.
I'd want to leave at least one outside back spot open for the NPC. See which random guy turns up and rips it up. There will be one. I really want to see Manson show great defensive improvement during the NPC. His pace is just too handy to ignore. Whether it is Rangitutia down in Dunedin or someone out of Counties, BoP or Ta$man who knows. Interested to see what they do with Harvey next year. A lot of faith in Whaanga, and interested to see whether the Landers have been burnt by the likes of Michaels, Hastie, Te Hiwi and others by easily dishing put long-term deals.
@gt12 McKenzie re-signed for four more years. As it stands that is Jacomb until he is 28. If he is seen as our best youngish 10, being stuck behind McKenzie until he is 28 isn't great for his career. But, fair Hastie for Jacomb isn't the best deal. Just good for NZ Rugby.
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@cliff said in Highlanders 2025:
@gt12 they should give us ratumaituvuki kneepkens or tangitau
Your bench 10 for our best outside backs? When you have Kyren Taumoefolau, Lerory Carter, Narawa and ETS. I think you're good.
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Jacomb is on the verge…. Watch this space
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@SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:
@cliff said in Highlanders 2025:
@gt12 they should give us ratumaituvuki kneepkens or tangitau
Your bench 10 for our best outside backs? When you have Kyren Taumoefolau, Lerory Carter, Narawa and ETS. I think you're good.
Wasn't Poihipi ahead of Jacomb last year?
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@SouthernMann think it's good players like Brodie McAlister, TK Howden & pending Jacomb have the foresight to ask about moving elsewhere for better gametime. Hypothetical if the shoe was on the other foot and e.g. Umaga Jensen saw an opportunity at Moana I would hope the landers would hear him out.
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@SouthernMann The problem is that Trask is always injured so there is no other backup to DMac. The only way I see this happening is if Cashmore comes back to the Chiefs.
