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    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    I'd suggest Caleb Tangitau needs to work on his defensive workrate and accuracy. Based on these Carter would seem a better option that Tangitau for test rugby.

    Tackle Success
    92.6% Emoni Narawa
    90.6% Jonah Lowe
    88.2% Mark Tele'a
    85.2% Macca Springer
    84.7% Sevu Reece
    82.6% Caleb Clarke
    81.4% Kini Naholo
    80.2% Leroy Carter
    72.4% Caleb Tangitau
    72.3% Chay Fihaki

    Tackles Per 80 Minutes
    9.17 Macca Springer
    8.4 Mark Tele'a
    7.82 Caleb Clarke
    7.74 Chay Fihaki
    7.56 Leroy Carter
    6.68 Kini Naholo
    6.54 Sevu Reece
    6.05 Jonah Lowe
    5.63 Emoni Narawa
    4.56 Caleb Tangitau

    Clarke and Tele'a look pretty good defence wise in these metrics.

    That could all be a product of playing for the highlanders though.

    Are you trying to say the Highlanders are a team full of poor defenders, which is why they came last, and besides that we shouldn't pick too many players who lose more often than not?

    the first bit yes but the last but might be a step too far, i always think managing to look that good in a struggling team earns you at least the chance to show what you can do with a dominant team around you

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    @Kiwiwomble

    I think 3 players from the Highlanders is about right. They are a young team and will get better.

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    @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    I imagine Tangitau was playing in a bit of a faulty defensive pattern in that first part of the season, but can't really be sure.

    Well the coaches need to be sure when they make their selections.

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    @Nogusta said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @nostrildamus said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @hikastags said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Rieko Ioane posted a photo today from training with Ah Kuoi in the background.

    I wonder what number Ioane was wearing..

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    Rieko has been training exclusively at wing. Zero reps in the midfield.

    Finally changes. Love it!

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    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    I'd suggest Caleb Tangitau needs to work on his defensive workrate and accuracy. Based on these Carter would seem a better option that Tangitau for test rugby.

    Good example of how stats don't tell the whole story.
    I don't think many people on here would pick Carter over Tangitau.

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    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @Kiwiwomble

    I think 3 players from the Highlanders is about right. They are a young team and will get better.

    of course, not claiming we should have loads more.....but i think Tangitau could have been a great bolter if fit

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    But does anyone agree Fihaki should have been there?

    I think if you look at the amount of tackles Carter made, the defensive accuracy, his durability, the fastest in NZ, and the fact that he scored the most tries of all NZ players then he would be the obvious noob to bring in over Tangitau.

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    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @nostrildamus

    But does anyone agree Fihaki should have been there?

    I think if you look at the amount of tackles Carter made, the defensive accuracy, his durability, the fastest in NZ, and the fact that he scored the most tries then he would be the obvious noob to bring in over Tangitau.

    My point was only his tackling isn't great and the coaches still looked at him.
    I'm not saying that was or is a good idea..

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    I was a bit disappointed with Tangitau during his sevens time. Carter was much hungrier and better at defence, contact and support. Tangitau is a superior finisher. But I think he needs a lot more super rugby before ABs.

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    @Canes4life I don’t think the Hotham bench call is driven by red n black eye patches alone, but for me Hotham is a more active runner of the ball from the base and late in games that can be very valuable. As we saw when Roigard first made h the ABs.

    I’m a fan of Ratima’s passing game, not so much his box kicking, but he gets that backline moving with his pass. He doesn’t tend to snipe as much as you would like though.

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    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    I imagine Tangitau was playing in a bit of a faulty defensive pattern in that first part of the season, but can't really be sure.

    Well the coaches need to be sure when they make their selections.

    Come on man.

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    With the talk about the midfield, thought an interesting combo to finish a game could be QT and Jim.

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    No match thread yet so posting in here.

    Same as last season, I’ll try my best to post any line ups I get nice and early and carry on last seasons hot early team naming oil.

    Working hard to try find out this weekends team so I can post it in here for all ferners to see nice and early. As of this morning the official lineup wasn’t decided, I hope to find out more tonight. Will post in here when I hear any updates(unless there’s a match thread, then I’ll post in there).

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    Unsure if this has been posted(probably has) but what I can confirm is Dyer has been in camp.

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    @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    With the talk about the midfield, thought an interesting combo to finish a game could be QT and Jim.

    Which would mean one of them starts.

    Which may not be out of the question given some of the noise.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    With the talk about the midfield, thought an interesting combo to finish a game could be QT and Jim.

    Which would mean one of them starts.

    Which may not be out of the question given some of the noise.

    I don't like it at all - I think we'd be silly to not have a real 13 out there, when we have two excellent options and the capability to select accordingly.

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    @Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Unsure if this has been posted(probably has) but what I can confirm is Dyer has been in camp.

    Do we know if he (and Ah Kuoi, for that matter) is just there as an extra body as with Bell and (I think it was) Blackadder in Christchurch last week, or if they've been brought in as actual injury cover?

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    @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    With the talk about the midfield, thought an interesting combo to finish a game could be QT and Jim.

    Which would mean one of them starts.

    Which may not be out of the question given some of the noise.

    I don't like it at all - I think we'd be silly to not have a real 13 out there, when we have two excellent options and the capability to select accordingly.

    I like that with versatility we could either have a backline of pretty much all fullbacks or a backline of near on all midfield.

    DMac, Love, Tupaea, Jordie, Jordan, BB would really put the shits up a few of us.

    BB, Ioane, Tupaea, Proctor, Jim, Jordie even more fun.

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    @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    DMac, Love, Tupaea, Jordie, Jordan, BB would really put the shits up a few of us.

    Proctor can play FB too, so:

    DMac, Love, Proctor, Jordie, Jordan, BB

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    @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    DMac, Love, Tupaea, Jordie, Jordan, BB would really put the shits up a few of us.

    Proctor can play FB too, so:

    DMac, Love, Proctor, Jordie, Jordan, BB

    Makes it even more fun selecting the midfield the wrong way around.

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