@kiwi_expat Even though he has had his moments at fullback, I have often thought he got ragdolled there and may have been questionable under the highball. Jordan or Beaudy at fullback offers a more secure option and Jordan in particular has pace to burn from the back. Also wonder if Havili could be another 10 option, as he has played there for the Crusaders.
There's no way havili is even remotely good enough to be a staring 10 for the abs
@MajorRage good post, though I'm not convinced he went missing, I just think he was asked to play a tighter game against SA. His tackle stats are always up there even in games where he isn't so prominent. I think the fact he can be so devastating with ball in hand counts against him a bit, as when he puts in a tighter shift people think he's gone missing as they expect to see him running over people out wide.
Yeah, probably true.
He's got a bit of Toeava about him on this forum, that's for sure.
I hope Goodhue gets a full season without injuries. I still think he has potential to be a very good centre, even lacking top line speed.
We don't really need a brilliant player at 13, just a competent, organised and reliable player who takes the right options. It's been a while since we saw Goodhue sans injury but he could fill that role if he doesn't break down.
I'd love to see Stevenson in the mix but IMO he would be competing for the 14 spot with Jordan, Telea and Reece potentially as 15 cover. Lam is a maybe, not sure he has the same impact as Clarke though as a power winger.
Foster (rightly IMO) clearly wants to play a power winger/finesse winger combination with his 14 also an extra FB with kicking etc. Leads me to believe Jordan will be the first choice 14 when fit. Telea has been the find of the northern tour.
I'm on the Shaun Stevenson bandwagon. He needs to be and AB.
@nostrildamus yeah, reminds me of when they tried using crash ball from the blind side with bridge....its like their tactical decisions are not actually related to let alone based on the actual players they select
One crash ball by DH was spectacularly ineffective!
Came on, bustled, made a few tackles. That's his job. Did fuck all Cane didn't when he was on. We gave up metres and a try when he was on. ALB arguably had more impact, made 5 tackles and he's a centre.
@nostrildamus think mate Mounga doesn't go that well with an inside centre type player as much as a 2nd 5/8, someone who plays first receiver a bit and allows him to take the ball a little wider. With the Crusaders off set play especially early in game, Havili often takes the ball off set play. Not a criticism of Mounga, but just something I have seen.
To be frank (ba dum tish) with the misogynists, BF are great. Super well coached and in Fitzpatrick and Fluhler they have their Nonu and Smith. The men’s XV could emulate their use of when to pick n go and when to spin it. Cocksedge took the right options but still too slow. I have no idea why Demant was relieved of the goal kicking.
So not watching or being interested in the BFs is misogynistic? Or did I misunderstand you?
I haven't seen any comments on here that reflect that attitude. Just people expressing a preference and giving reasons why. I prefer women's Netball to men's Netball. Does that make me prejudice against men?
allblacks 🚨 SQUAD UPDATES | Unfortunately @samcane7 & Dane Coles will be returning to New Zealand after picking up injuries in last nights match. Sam - fractured cheekbone, Dane - calf. All the best with your recovery fellas 💪
@pattytuips, @damianmckenzie_, @tuivasasheck & @braydonennor will join the @allblacksxv in Dublin
@leicester_f will rejoin the squad and @billy_harmon has been called in.
Telea and @asafoaumua will stay with the squad.
That stuff article posted in other threads clearly missed a bit of info.
They must be confident Retallick will escape suspension if they’re sending Tuipulotu to AB XV.
Positive is Papali’i will get an extended run in the 7 jersey. He was dynamite off the bench last night.
Happy for Aumua. Keeping Coles around has hindered his development.
Was he? I’m not sure I can watch it again, but I didn’t think he stood out (other than the hair of course).
I’m a fan of what he can bring though.
If we assume that Ardie is going to start all three tests, the question they may be considering is, do we start Papali’i or Sotutu? It’s not beyond the possibility with Cane injured that they move Ardie. They’ve done it before.
Papali'i was very good, I think 9 tackles in 14 mins plus the turnover which iced the game. He and Tuipulotu (as with most of the bench) did their job in bringing energy.
I think to reduce disruption they'll straight swap Papali'i for Cane and keep Ardie at 8. That way they can free up a bench spot for Sotutu who I thought, barring the turnover on the tryline was generally good.
I can't see Frizell backing up against Wales. He's turning into the modern day Reuben Thorne which is not all bad, you need solid blindsides who do the dirty work, make their tackles, solid carries, rucks/mauls. Akira does that and provides much more with ball-in hand.
Love Papalii but not sure I can cope with our open side flanker looking like Billy Idol.
Hopefully he doesn’t miss the starting XV after putting in the hard yards at training: tries without a place.
knowing something is coming and doing something about it are two very different things. Big body running straight is a key rugby requirement at the top level. Then if they doubleteam/stack a defence, space is created elsewhere.
Bring it on, JB at 12, Hayman at 8, 2023 is ours
Dagg to 10 and Messam to centre. Mealamu to openside
“Campo had scored a couple of tries in the first half and we felt we had the measure of Ireland,” said Lynagh. “Mistake. Gordon Hamilton’s try turned the match on its head, a sympathetic bounce of the ball, a slip by Campo and away he went. Ireland were in front and Lansdowne Road was bouncing.
“I’d taken over the captaincy as Nick (Farr-Jones) had gone off injured. I knew I had to come up with something precise and factual. I was determined not to resort to the cliche of, ‘don’t panic, don’t worry’. There were no clocks at the ground so I asked referee Jim Fleming how long there was to go. Four minutes, came the reply. So, that’s what I said to the boys. I stuck to the facts. ‘Four minutes, still time, we’ll kick long from the restart, press, they’ll kick out and we’ll strike from the lineout’. In fact, Nick told me only the other week that he’d have kicked short to contest the ball if he had still be on the field and captain. So, there we are – what might have been.”
What was is that Ireland scrum-half Rob Saunders sliced his clearance, Australia had a lineout around the 22-metre line, David Campese took it up and was on hand later in the sequence but was tackled. Lynagh’s role had been to track play. He swooped and dived over the line.
“There was a deathly silence and I wondered what had happened, maybe that play had been called back and I hadn’t scored,” said Lynagh.
One inconvenient fact in terms of this debate is that in the most critical 15 minutes when ABs made poor tactical choices SAVEA was the captain.
i can't believe, in the same breath that people are asking for more tactical thought on the field, that those saem people are suggesting Ardie Savea as the captain.
The very definition of tactical inflexibility. Ardie, bless him, is all attack, all the time. So much so that his excited labrador act often results in shitty errors at poor times.
There is so much broken at the moment. But i do think leadership is one of the most important. I just read Ryan having a pop at individual preparation during the week. The skipper should be setting those standards. If he's not, or he is an no one is following, that's a big concern.
But he can learn. Cane has had his time, so Ardie has got a year and a half to improve. Canes has had 2.5 and stil hasn't got it.
How hard is TAKE THE FUCKING THREE
Well in particular against 'park the bus' teams like the Pumas.
I've seen enough ABs tests to know what to do. Take the 3s against teams like that, eventually they will get desperate to catch up and you can feed off their mistakes. Right?
@Dan54 Don't know anything about the dynamics, Dan - but one thing I'd imagine could be a worry is blowing a prop's knee when the weight comes on as they shift the brake foot back.
Yep mate, just a thought I had, I was thinking they should perhaps have to keep brake foor there, just trying to think how we can stop them getting too low, the keeping shoulders above hips is perhaps one of problems as they have feet so far back to keep hips low I think we getting some slipping. I not really advocating we go to it and just thought I would ask other's opinions, which I kind of helps me undertand why perhaps it not looked at.
Have just been looking through Jules final season and a bit when Ardie was mainly on the bench and would replace Cane. They had some good games together. Especially in 2016 against Oz. That slaughter in Sydney had them both doing well.
@dogmeat I agreed with what you said but then when I thought about COVID maybe it has been a little blessing for us (less exodus?) and perhaps harder on some of the other teams? (Esp Pacific Island nations I imagine, those with plenty of players in another country)...
Oh ok you answered above. Hmm. What about South Africa? Argentina?