Low Fat vs Low Carb
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[quote name='mooshld']I have always prescribed to what you eat needs to correlate with your goals. Not many ultra marathon runners tucking into high protein food and not many body builders eating mounds of slow release carbs. <br />
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Probably something in that.<br />
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As for weight well its just about calories, eat more then you burn go up less go down. Newton taught us that.<br />
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Most on here just want to be healthy, so looking at food packaging, eating more foods in their natural state, exercise, sleep etc all helps for a healthy lifestyle. Other than Bart and his BB exploits many of us are either weekend warriors or just keen on working out and actually getting results. -
Oats...not as great as they appear to be...[URL="http://www.heartscanblog.org/2010/03/oatmeal-good-or-bad.html"]http://www.heartscanblog.org/2010/03/oatmeal-good-or-bad.html[/URL]<br />
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(that is a cardiologists blog)<br />
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eating a bowl of candy or eating a bowl of oats - one hour after consumption, your blood sugar will be at the same level.<br />
Granted oats is the lesser of two evils, but nonetheless, definitely worth considering.<br />
I used to eat porridge daily for breakfast and then at 10 am I would be absolutely craving food as the high G.I oatmeal is rapidly digested and raises your blood sugar and then you get a insulin response which drops you right down and then you are on the blood sugar/ insulin rollercoaster.<br />
Oats are also high in the amino acid proline. Prolamines (proline rich proteins) are tough to digest, and thus remain intact despite the best efforts of the digestive process to break them down. The result is gut irritation and the slippery slope that that can lead to.<br />
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If you really love oats, look for steel cut oats, they have a lower G. I but need more prep/cooking time. -
molenburg - nah, just less processed type of bread - i LOVE it, can demolish a loaf in a sitting when I am allowed too....<br />
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That is interesting QV, but I find it hard to believe that candy / oats thing, or maybe not, but I'm piccking your blood sugar after the candy will spike like the Eiffel tower before coming back down, while the oats will be pretty constant.<br />
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And you always should be hungry by ten - that's time for your second meal of the day!!!!! Or mine anyway - banana time right now actually! -
[quote name='Quo vadis']eating a bowl of candy or eating a bowl of oats - one hour after consumption, your blood sugar will be at the same level.<br />
Granted oats is the lesser of two evils, but nonetheless, definitely worth considering.<br />
I used to eat porridge daily for breakfast and then at 10 am I would be absolutely craving food as the high G.I oatmeal is rapidly digested and raises your blood sugar and then you get a insulin response which drops you right down and then you are on the blood sugar/ insulin rollercoaster..[/QUOTE]<br />
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Yeah this is what I found when I was eating porridge or weetbix for breakfast, I would be terribly hungry by 10:00am and craving high sugar junk (my favourite was kitkat chunky from work vending machine). It wasn't untill I started eating scrambled eggs for breakfast (without toast) that I realised that being that hungry by 10:00am isn't normal or neccessary, if I have a decent fat+protein low carb breakfast I find I don't even think about food untill lunchtime.<br />
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I think some people (especially those with desk jobs) don't tolerate carbs very well, you can go for the wholegrainy more complex stuff but that doesn't help if it makes you crave more carbs a few hours later.<br />
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I have lost 7.5kgs in 8 weeks eating low carb with minimal exercise, once I hit my goal weight I will start introducing back some complex carbs and add some exercise (MRT) and see how I go. -
[quote name='Nepia']I can't stand that type of stuff for breakfast - which is why I eat toast. I can't stand oats. Shame, seemed I'm doomed to tubbyness <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />.<br />
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[QUOTE]I have lost 7.5kgs in 8 weeks eating low carb with minimal exercise, once I hit my goal weight [B]I will start introducing back some complex carbs and add some exercise[/B] (MRT) and see how I go. [/QUOTE]<br />
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Which is why diets don't work. <br />
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Diet, lose weight, go back to eating normal, (which is why the person was overweight to start with), gain the weight back. You need to change lifetime habits to lose weight and retain the new weight you get to. <br />
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Not saying YOU Deep Blue, but that seems to be the recurring theme for people who do special diets and then get to their goal and resume eating normal again.<br />
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If everyone just ate less, plain and simple, they would start to lose weight. Don't supersize your McD meal, have one sugar in your tea instead of two, trim milk instead of the full cream stuff. Reduce your carbs at night with dinner, snack healthy. It's not hard when you make a conscious effort, but all too easy to back slide!! -
Yeah, I've been a yoyo dieter for years. This time the changes I've made are permanent, so it's been less extreme. Basically how can i eat what I like in moderation, what should I be eating but aren't, and topping it up with exercise. <br />
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[quote name='BartMan']Which is why diets don't work. <br />
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Diet, lose weight, go back to eating normal, (which is why the person was overweight to start with), gain the weight back. You need to change lifetime habits to lose weight and retain the new weight you get to. <br />
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Not saying YOU Deep Blue, but that seems to be the recurring theme for people who do special diets and then get to their goal and resume eating normal again.<br />
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If everyone just ate less, plain and simple, they would start to lose weight. Don't supersize your McD meal, have one sugar in your tea instead of two, trim milk instead of the full cream stuff. Reduce your carbs at night with dinner, snack healthy. It's not hard when you make a conscious effort, but all too easy to back slide!![/QUOTE]<br />
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Emphasis on the "see how I go" part, if I introduce something back in and start to gain weight that is obviously the level I can handle, "eating normal" may never come. At the moment the way I'm eating now I can't really think of much I really feel deprived of. The only problem I have with the idea of eating the same as when you were fat just smaller amounts is I do think those foods effect you psychologically "once you pop, you just can't stop". I'm at week 13 and down 10kgs, various health conditions I had have cleared up or reduced in severity, comparing the way I feel now to before I have very little urge to go back to that way of eating. -
that's true - sometimes better to go without as it is tough to just have a little bit of something!!<br />
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health improvements - yup, that's a great byproduct - me from 120kg to now, no comparison!<br />
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And mindset - 'normal eating' - that's what you're doing NOW, what you used to do is abnormal!! -
What I like about eating right is that I can still eat heaps but don't have to worry about the consequences. I pretty much have to eat every 2-3 hours or I starve. Oats with protein powder for breakfast is the bomb. Never used to eat breakfast but now its the meal I look forward to the most. <br />
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I used to be well over 95kgs which is alot for someone who is barely 175cm. All I did was cut out eating shit. No more chips, ice cream, coke, cake etc. Its amazing how the kind of things I used to inhale taste like shæt now. <br />
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Obviously a major factor these days is the types of jobs we have. I don't believe the food people ate back in the day was all that much better. Fish and chips with a sav in batter is hardly better than a Maccas meal. The difference is people did physical work and pretty much burnt off anything they ate.
