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    It will be an unconstested scrum!

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    That must be an advantage to Wales, surely.

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    There seems to be some uncertainty about the rules. Reminds me of that infamous situation in the Hurricanes v Chiefs game in - was it 2016?

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    It has become a line-out ... time's up!

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    Why was that a penalty to Wales?

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    And Wales kicks the ball out and it's all over.
    Wales win 13 to 6, but man, Georgia did deserve that draw!

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    More to follow tomorrow but in the meantime, the above and we're the dumbest rugby team bar none.

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    Wales could be in the shit here. Word I am hearing is they had props to come on but they became injured at short notice.

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    @mooshld said in Wales v Georgia:

    Wales could be in the shit here. Word I am hearing is they had props to come on but they became injured at short notice.

    I was livid live, and haven't cooled down since.

    Shocked that it hasn't been brought up yet.

    Cheating. Pure and simple.

    We rightly chastised France in last season's 6N for similar. And then we go and do it ourselves. But that may be because World Rugby sat on their hands. No censure. No detterent.

    If the shoe had been on the other foot and Wales had a last minute attacking scrum to tie the match then Brown would have been champing not cramping.

    So disappointed. So let down by the Welsh management.

    And the match was shocking.

    Clearly have players who are not up to the task.
    What is galling is we have better players outside of the squad / not selected for the match.

    e.g. Thomas Young

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    Unlikely world rugby will do jack shit if Georgia complain either. They need to do what the top 14 did, if you have a player on the field designated as front row and he's not fit to scrum and there is no replacement, then he must leave the field and you go down to 14 players.

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    @mooshld said in Wales v Georgia:

    @mikethesnow

    Unlikely world rugby will do jack shit if Georgia complain either. They need to do what the top 14 did, if you have a player on the field designated as front row and he's not fit to scrum and there is no replacement, then he must leave the field and you go down to 14 players.

    Simple solutions are very often the best

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    Here's a good breakdown of what happened.

    theblitzdefence  /  Nov 20, 2017

    Wales v Georgia – a replacement controversy

    Wales v Georgia – a replacement controversy

    The 2017 6 Nations saw arguably one of the most controversial incidents in professional rugby’s history, when France met Cardiff. Late in the game, as the French were attacking the Welsh tryl…

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    @mooshld said in Wales v Georgia:

    @mikethesnow

    Unlikely world rugby will do jack shit if Georgia complain either. They need to do what the top 14 did, if you have a player on the field designated as front row and he's not fit to scrum and there is no replacement, then he must leave the field and you go down to 14 players.

    It looks like the ref wanted to do exactly that. From the article posted by @Crucial

    Wales’ replacement hooker Dacey seems ready to come on and there is again chat in the Welsh coaching box, but this seems linked to the issue about the referee wanting Wales to go down to 13 players, rather than the replacement of Francis.
    

    I remember a similar situation in a Hurricanes v Chiefs game (April 2016), where replacement prop Siegfried Fisi'ihoi had to leave the field again because the Chiefs' coaching staff had told ref Joubert that he could not scrum at TH and asked for an unconstested scrum. He had come on after Siate Tokolahi had limped off with a real or imaginary injury, right at the moment when the Canes got a scrum (which they had been dominating throughout that game) inside the Chiefs' half, five minutes before full time when the Chiefs were leading by just one point. Earlier in the game, TH prop Atu Moli had already left the field injured.

    Whether Tokolahi was really injured and whether Fisi'ihoi really couldn't scrum at TH was the subject of quite some controversy at the time (the Ferald was all over it), but the application of the rules by Joubert wasn't. The Chiefs were a bit surprised when Joubert ordered Fisi'ihoi off again, but that was more due to unfamiliarity with the rule than anything else.

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    People slated the game, but from a Georgian point of view they should be pretty happy: I watched it, and all the core fundamentals were in place - set-piece, tackling & defence, ruck cleanouts, clearing to touch etc.

    The main issue was a lack of variation on attack, but not really any worse than Italy in this regard, and I think their defence would probably be broken down easily enough by a team with more attacking nous than Wales showed. But they looked more top 2nd tier than cannon fodder - ie I'd rate them to beat Canada/USA/Samoa etc and probably put up a decent enough effort vs Japan.

    Italy vs Georgia next year should be some match, if only for the brownie points on offer.

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    @billy-tell Yep, they did beat Canada 54 to 22 only ten days ago and play the USA this weekend. Romania is similar and beat Samoa last weekend and will play Tonga next. Georgia and Romania are teams that are gradually closing in on the weaker 6 Nations teams and can cause the occasional upset to tier 1 teams if the latter are complacent, don't field their best team or have a really bad day. I think these are interesting teams to watch.

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