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    #24

    so...

    Tahs killed the Sunwolves 77-25 after game being close enough at the break to secure top spot in Aussie conference
    Bulls broke Jaguares streak 43-24, and with it almost certainly thier shot at a home semi?
    Stormers also dealt Sharks chances a blow taking them 27-16

    RANK	TEAM	PLAYED	WIN	DRAW	LOSS	DIFF	POINTS
    1	Crusaders	15	13	0	2	210	58
    2	Waratahs	15	9	1	5	121	44
    3	Lions	15	8	0	7	57	41
    4	Hurricanes	15	11	0	4	135	50
    5	Chiefs	15	10	0	5	91	45
    6	Highlanders	15	9	0	6	-14	40
    7	Jaguares	15	9	0	6	1	38
    8	Rebels	15	7	0	8	-15	35```
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    @taniwharugby If this is going to be the final table after next week's round: "poor Highlanders". Having to travel to Jo'burg for the QFs. Things can still change though.

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    Am I correct in thinking that current top 7 are guaranteed QFists? Only Rebels could drop out of the 8?

    Latter scenario if Shorks beat Jagulars and Highlanders deny them any points (or at least if the Shorks get 4 more points than the Rebs - there's still losing bps aren't there?)

    Chiefs have uphill battle to pip Canes for home advantage.

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    @booboo Yes, that's correct. In theory, even the Brumbies can still steal that final spot from the Rebels with a bonus point win over the Waratahs and the Rebels getting smashed by the Landers.

    It's near impossible for the Chiefs to finish 4th. They'd need a bonus point win and score at least 45 more points than the Canes. If they score exactly 44 points more, they need to score 7 tries more than the Canes.

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    and highlanders are even less of a chance of getting past the chiefs. race is on for 6 , 7 and 8 though

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    @ploughboy Yep, and due to the format, also the nos. 2 & 3 spots are still undecided. Jags can still finish 1st in SA conference, and the Lions can still leapfrog the Tahs.

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    @stargazer

    Don't Chiefs need to win by 23 with a bonus point? i.e. 3 tries more. Not impossible - but why bother when you can rest players for a trip south.

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    @arhs
    If the Chiefs beat the Canes with a bonus point, they finish on equal points (50) and have an equal number of wins. According to the tiebreaking rules, in this situation, the team with the greatest points differential finishes on top.

    Currently, the Canes have a points diff of +135 and the Chiefs +91. Hence, that the Chiefs need a bonus point win in which they score at least 45 points more than the Canes. If they score 43 more points, the Canes will have a better points diff, and if they score 44 more points than the Canes, they are tied.

    Then the tie will break by who has scored most tries in the round robin, currently Canes 62 and Chiefs 56, so Chiefs need to score 7 tries more than the Canes. If they score 5 more tries, Canes finis on top; if they score 6 more tries, they are still tied.

    Then the tie will break by who has the greatest tries-difference, currently Canes +23 and Chiefs +12. The Chiefs would have to score 12 more tries than the Canes to prevail. If they're still tied, a coin toss will decide who finishis 4th and 5th.

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    @stargazer said in SR18 the run to the finals:

    @arhs
    If the Chiefs beat the Canes with a bonus point, they finish on equal points (50) and have an equal number of wins. According to the tiebreaking rules, in this situation, the team with the greatest points differential finishes on top.

    Currently, the Canes have a points diff of +135 and the Chiefs +91. Hence, that the Chiefs need a bonus point win in which they score at least 45 points more than the Canes. If they score 43 more points, the Canes will have a better points diff, and if they score 44 more points than the Canes, they are tied.

    Then the tie will break by who has scored most tries in the round robin, currently Canes 62 and Chiefs 56, so Chiefs need to score 7 tries more than the Canes. If they score 5 more tries, Canes finis on top; if they score 6 more tries, they are still tied.

    Then the tie will break by who has the greatest tries-difference, currently Canes +23 and Chiefs +12. The Chiefs would have to score 12 more tries than the Canes to prevail. If they're still tied, a coin toss will decide who finishis 4th and 5th.

    You're forgetting that every point the chiefs win by is a point the 'canes will lose by. So if the chiefs are +44 then the 'canes are -44. So a 23 point win will get the chiefs ahead on PD and a 22 point win will have them tied on PD.

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    @cyclops Ah, yes, I see. You and @ARHS are right. Thinking is not going well with a splitting headache. 😵

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    All irrelevant anyway, canes will smash the chiefs! 😀

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    @Stargazer ditto the tries. 6 more will swing it in Chiefs favour.

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    I don't expect either the Chiefs or Canes to be playing their best XV next Friday. Cooper has already said Cane will be rested, as will DMac, so MMac ain't going to lead the Chiefs to the promised land. I wouldn't risk BBBR either but maybe Laulala is available.

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    @bovidae Cane may not even be available, this week or next 😞

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by Bovidae
    #38

    @taniwharugby See my reply to you in the match thread.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/105166371/chiefs-cocaptain-sam-cane-alright-after-head-knock-but-could-rest-next-weekend

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