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  • CrucialC Offline
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    This is the same system they have used for the past three years and should perhaps be named the DMac register as he has 'won' each time.
    Obviously favours a players activity levels over effectiveness (although effectiveness still shines through in some cases). Interesting that Akira makes the team on this criteria yet has supposedly been asked to work on work rate.

    Super Rugby

    Super Rugby

    The Super Rugby Team of the Year has players from 12 of the teams and like the regular season is based on a comprehensive statistical index that monitors in detail every action of every match [see below]. Player of the year is Chiefs' play-maker Damian McKenzie.
    McKenzie's statistics are pretty impressive and earned him the fly-half spot in the Team of the Year; including beating 74 defenders and amassing 177 points during the season.

    0_1533632809700_TOTS.png

    Opta Index: How does it work
    The Opta Index allows genuine opportunities to compare and contrast both player and team strengths and weaknesses across Super Rugby, providing real insights pre-game as follows:
    After every match Opta completes a video analysis of every touch of the ball. Each action in the match is awarded a points value depending on the relative importance of the action. So for example, a try scores more points than a tackle, but a player loses points for a missed tackle.
    The points are then weighted against the score at the time when the action took place (higher points if the score is closer), the time in the match (higher points at the start of the match) and the position on the pitch where it took place (higher points for actions closer to the goal line).
    The player is then given a score for the match by adding up all his actions while he was on the field. The total match score is then weighted to take account of the strength of the opposition so that performances across many matches can be judged fairly.

    15 Israel Folau
    Waratahs
    Scored nine tries in his final eight games of the season, and made 11.4 carries per game - the most of any outside back (min 10 games).
    14 Solomon Alaimalo
    Chiefs
    Made more clean breaks (43) than any other player, while only Taqele Naiyaravoro (1,478) gained more metres than the Chiefs' flyer (1,447).
    13 Anton Lienert-Brown
    Chiefs
    Beat 53 defenders, made 22 offloads, and was one of just three outside centres to make five or more clean breaks in a single game.
    12 Michael Little
    Sunwolves
    Finished the campaign with 22 clean breaks and 56 defenders beaten - a team-high in each category.
    11 George Bridge
    Crusaders
    Scored a club-record 15 tries in a single season and gained the third most metres of any player in the competition.
    10 Damian McKenzie
    Chiefs
    Beat a joint-high 74 defenders for the season, kicked 62/80 goals, and scored more points (177) than any other New Zealand-based player.
    9 TJ Perenara
    Hurricanes
    Was directly involved in 10 tries for the campaign (4 tries, 6 assists), and won 11 turnovers - four more than any other scrum half.
    8 Akira Ioane
    Blues
    Beat a joint-high 74 defenders while no forward made more clean breaks (18) than the Blues back row, he also scored the second most tries of any forward (8).
    7 Jean-Luc du Preez
    Sharks
    Made 31 offloads for the campaign, four more than any other player in the competition.
    6 Pablo Matera
    Jaguares
    Won 13 turnovers (five more than he conceded) and was one of just three players to average 10+ carries and 10+ tackles per game.
    5 Lodewyk De Jager
    Bulls
    Won 63 lineouts for the season, the equal third most of any player in the competition, including five lineout steals.
    4 Brodie Retallick
    Chiefs
    Only two forwards (Marx, A Ioane) scored more tries than Retallick (6) this season, who also made 17 offloads and 106 carries.
    3 Taniela Tupou
    Reds
    No prop forward scored more tries (4) or beat more defenders (24) than the Reds' Taniela Tupou.
    2 Malcolm Marx
    Lions
    Marx scored 12 tries - the most of any forward in a single Super Rugby season while he won the second most turnovers of any player (27).
    1 Steven Kitschoff
    Stormers
    Made the most carries (117) and beat the second most defenders (17) of any prop.

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  • Chester DrawsC Offline
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    Obviously there are flaws to the system, but it's impressive how many of the obviously right players appear.

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    Fuck me Chiefs, sign Michael Little!

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    @crucial said in SR Team of the Year -the 'official' one:

    This is the same system they have used for the past three years and should perhaps be named the DMac register as he has 'won' each time.
    Obviously favours a players activity levels over effectiveness (although effectiveness still shines through in some cases). Interesting that Akira makes the team on this criteria yet has supposedly been asked to work on work rate.

    Super Rugby

    Super Rugby

    The Super Rugby Team of the Year has players from 12 of the teams and like the regular season is based on a comprehensive statistical index that monitors in detail every action of every match [see below]. Player of the year is Chiefs' play-maker Damian McKenzie.
    McKenzie's statistics are pretty impressive and earned him the fly-half spot in the Team of the Year; including beating 74 defenders and amassing 177 points during the season.

    0_1533632809700_TOTS.png

    Opta Index: How does it work
    The Opta Index allows genuine opportunities to compare and contrast both player and team strengths and weaknesses across Super Rugby, providing real insights pre-game as follows:
    After every match Opta completes a video analysis of every touch of the ball. Each action in the match is awarded a points value depending on the relative importance of the action. So for example, a try scores more points than a tackle, but a player loses points for a missed tackle.
    The points are then weighted against the score at the time when the action took place (higher points if the score is closer), the time in the match (higher points at the start of the match) and the position on the pitch where it took place (higher points for actions closer to the goal line).
    The player is then given a score for the match by adding up all his actions while he was on the field. The total match score is then weighted to take account of the strength of the opposition so that performances across many matches can be judged fairly.

    15 Israel Folau
    Waratahs
    Scored nine tries in his final eight games of the season, and made 11.4 carries per game - the most of any outside back (min 10 games).
    14 Solomon Alaimalo
    Chiefs
    Made more clean breaks (43) than any other player, while only Taqele Naiyaravoro (1,478) gained more metres than the Chiefs' flyer (1,447).
    13 Anton Lienert-Brown
    Chiefs
    Beat 53 defenders, made 22 offloads, and was one of just three outside centres to make five or more clean breaks in a single game.
    12 Michael Little
    Sunwolves
    Finished the campaign with 22 clean breaks and 56 defenders beaten - a team-high in each category.
    11 George Bridge
    Crusaders
    Scored a club-record 15 tries in a single season and gained the third most metres of any player in the competition.
    10 Damian McKenzie
    Chiefs
    Beat a joint-high 74 defenders for the season, kicked 62/80 goals, and scored more points (177) than any other New Zealand-based player.
    9 TJ Perenara
    Hurricanes
    Was directly involved in 10 tries for the campaign (4 tries, 6 assists), and won 11 turnovers - four more than any other scrum half.
    8 Akira Ioane
    Blues
    Beat a joint-high 74 defenders while no forward made more clean breaks (18) than the Blues back row, he also scored the second most tries of any forward (8).
    7 Jean-Luc du Preez
    Sharks
    Made 31 offloads for the campaign, four more than any other player in the competition.
    6 Pablo Matera
    Jaguares
    Won 13 turnovers (five more than he conceded) and was one of just three players to average 10+ carries and 10+ tackles per game.
    5 Lodewyk De Jager
    Bulls
    Won 63 lineouts for the season, the equal third most of any player in the competition, including five lineout steals.
    4 Brodie Retallick
    Chiefs
    Only two forwards (Marx, A Ioane) scored more tries than Retallick (6) this season, who also made 17 offloads and 106 carries.
    3 Taniela Tupou
    Reds
    No prop forward scored more tries (4) or beat more defenders (24) than the Reds' Taniela Tupou.
    2 Malcolm Marx
    Lions
    Marx scored 12 tries - the most of any forward in a single Super Rugby season while he won the second most turnovers of any player (27).
    1 Steven Kitschoff
    Stormers
    Made the most carries (117) and beat the second most defenders (17) of any prop.

    So precisely one singular Crusader. Being a fringey winger ...I trust their selection criteria ...

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @chester-draws said in SR Team of the Year -the 'official' one:

    Obviously there are flaws to the system, but it's impressive how many of the obviously right players appear.

    Stuff did an article saying how amazed they were with the inaccuracy of the list but then proceeded to name many of the same players in their own one or had another player just selected on the basis of 'opinion'.

    I think they make it very clear that this is a list of players that clocked up the most of their own measurable metrics and is not meant to be a SANZAAR Test team selection of the best team they could construct to play.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @gt12 said in SR Team of the Year -the 'official' one:

    Fuck me Chiefs, sign Michael Little!

    Nah, he wouldn't want to play outside a 10 that offers his centres no chances because he runs around like a headless chook looking for gaps before delivering a pass to someone in a worse position.
    Maybe he should talk to ALB about how he managed to top the stats off such rubbish ball.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    @crucial said in SR Team of the Year -the 'official' one:

    @chester-draws said in SR Team of the Year -the 'official' one:

    Obviously there are flaws to the system, but it's impressive how many of the obviously right players appear.

    Stuff did an article saying how amazed they were with the inaccuracy of the list but then proceeded to name many of the same players in their own one or had another player just selected on the basis of 'opinion'.

    I think they make it very clear that this is a list of players that clocked up the most of their own measurable metrics and is not meant to be a SANZAAR Test team selection of the best team they could construct to play.

    In that case, they shouldn't call it the Team of the Year. A list of individual player stats would have sufficed.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @stargazer said in SR Team of the Year -the 'official' one:

    @crucial said in SR Team of the Year -the 'official' one:

    @chester-draws said in SR Team of the Year -the 'official' one:

    Obviously there are flaws to the system, but it's impressive how many of the obviously right players appear.

    Stuff did an article saying how amazed they were with the inaccuracy of the list but then proceeded to name many of the same players in their own one or had another player just selected on the basis of 'opinion'.

    I think they make it very clear that this is a list of players that clocked up the most of their own measurable metrics and is not meant to be a SANZAAR Test team selection of the best team they could construct to play.

    In that case, they shouldn't call it the Team of the Year. A list of individual player stats would have sufficed.

    Why? To select a TOTY you have to create some way of doing it and then clearly explain your methodology. They have done both. Other definitions will be different but no more 'correct' and just as debateable.

    You could ask each national coach to select their XV and they would all come up with something different.

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    Crusaders would waste that side.

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    @canerbry said in SR Team of the Year -the 'official' one:

    Crusaders would waste that side.

    Ahhh, but if you ask Mr Jones, they wouldn't have a hope in hell in Europe. Saracens, Racing, Toulon would walk all over them.

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    @bones Sorry, saw the headline and didn't read it.

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    @canerbry yeah I read the bits they quoted on stuff. Had the usual lack of logic and awareness. Stuff like second string super sides beating the second string lions obviously didn't happen.

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    Just confirms that Hansen got it wrong by not selecting Bridge.

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    @canerbry said in SR Team of the Year -the 'official' one:

    Crusaders would waste that side.

    0_1533646198544_no_shit-300x169.png

    Maybe they would be better if the Coach of the year worked with them for the last 8 months?

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  • Chester DrawsC Offline
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    @canerbry said in SR Team of the Year -the 'official' one:

    Crusaders would waste that side.

    If slapped together without training, sure.

    It's not like the Crusaders went unbeaten this season. They're good, but they're not invincible.

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  • C Offline
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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/106081797/there-has-to-be-room-for-richie-mounga-in-a-super-rugby-form-xv

    How many games did Alaimalo play on the Chiefs right wing this season ? I remember him playing with the Nr.11 or 15 jerseys, not the 14.

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