Planes
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@jegga said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@Snowy said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@jegga said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@antipodean said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
If there's one thing Air Crash Investigation has taught me (and friends in CASA), it's always the pilot's fault.
Did you see the one where they updated the air traffic controllers software and there was a stuff up ? Two planes collided mid air and the wreckage landed on a school for special needs kids . One of the planes was full of Russian kids on a school trip , the father of one of the kids tracked down the air traffic controller and stabbed him to death .
I don’t watch that show anymore.
Bloody hell.
Ah, right. Know all about that one, was Euro control. Thought you meant it was over Russia.
They changed all of rules about the use of TCAS very quickly after that.
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It's changed a fair bit in the UK forces since then. Pilot error is not even an option anymore, it's called human factors now. A hawk piled into the ground when I was on 100 Sqn, pretty much pilot error but they were never blamed for it - though hard to be sure with the old hawk's black box. And couldn't interview the crew, sadly 😭
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@Snowy said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@jegga said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
The one with Denzel Washington where he’s a coke addict and alcoholic pilot is entertaining too
Yeah, and complete fiction. I had people come and pull hair out for drug testing, alcohol tested, etc, all the time. There are incidents of guys getting caught but remarkably rare.
A few years ago I pinched a guy for high range drink driving who reckoned he was a 777 pilot for a major airline and was due to fly out in around 12 hours. From memory he was close to 4 times the legal limit. What are the rules for pilots? I am guessing they have to have zero alcohol, but are there any rules around fatigue. I can't see how this bloke was managing his fatigue being so hammered when he was. I'd hate to think he was my pilot.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
What are the rules for pilots?
Different in every country, which isn't very helpful. From memory Japan for example was zero detectable, Sri Lanka was no alcohol within 24 hours of sign on (which probably meant zero). Companies have their own rules too, we were no alcohol within 12 hours of sign on but with lots of caveats about amounts. Country rules were usually more restrictive.
Yes lots of rules around fatigue. Flight time limitations usually set by the regulatory body for the country of registration of the aircraft. So a ZK reg aircraft in NZ has the pilots duty limited by CAA. The airlines don't like a lot of those limits as it restricts scheduling and disruption recovery (due to a typhoon for example) but pilots usually have unions that protect them more than the state rules.
All of the above is a tribute to the lawyers that write the rules and usually so incredibly complex with "grey" areas everywhere.
Most pilots just err on the side of caution and don't drink for 24 hours+ before a duty. If you were down route that meant teetotal as the layovers aren't long enough for a beer even on long haul. The inside of an Indian prison for a year or two really doesn't appeal so abstinence was best.
Your guy was an idiot.
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@Machpants said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
Never drink within 50' of an aircraft, or smoke within 12 hours of flying. Something like that. Anyway, that's the rules I adhered too
The old 12 hours bottle to throttle, that was often interpreted as 12 inches bottle to throttle.
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@Snowy said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@jegga said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
Jaguars added to cool animal list. Is that a Caiman that it has grabbed or a 'gator? Neither of them are cool.
I'm sure that I could make some shoes or even a belt out of either though.
Might even rename myself "jaguaresforeva" or suchlike.
I don’t think jaguars and gators territory overlap so probably a caiman.
Have you seen this ?
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@jegga No, I hadn't. A good read.
Strangely enough a Cessna did this to me "I am going to set it afire" not the other way around.
Liked this:
“I flew F-16's for the better part of a decade. The jet was designed in the late 60's and has aged better than almost any aircraft in the world. The one aircraft that beats it is the Cessna 172,” Major Justin “Hasard” Lee, a U.S. Air Force F-35 Joint Strike Fighter pilot"
An argument could be made for the B52 and the Dakota (C47) in terms of longevity but he has a point.
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@Snowy said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@jegga No, I hadn't. A good read.
Strangely enough a Cessna did this to me "I am going to set it afire" not the other way around.
Liked this:
“I flew F-16's for the better part of a decade. The jet was designed in the late 60's and has aged better than almost any aircraft in the world. The one aircraft that beats it is the Cessna 172,” Major Justin “Hasard” Lee, a U.S. Air Force F-35 Joint Strike Fighter pilot"
An argument could be made for the B52 and the Dakota (C47) in terms of longevity but he has a point.
Harvard was pre war but still in use too? Are there many tiger moths left?
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@jegga said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@Snowy said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@jegga No, I hadn't. A good read.
Strangely enough a Cessna did this to me "I am going to set it afire" not the other way around.
Liked this:
“I flew F-16's for the better part of a decade. The jet was designed in the late 60's and has aged better than almost any aircraft in the world. The one aircraft that beats it is the Cessna 172,” Major Justin “Hasard” Lee, a U.S. Air Force F-35 Joint Strike Fighter pilot"
An argument could be made for the B52 and the Dakota (C47) in terms of longevity but he has a point.
Harvard was pre war but still in use too? Are there many tiger moths left?
Plenty of both of those around - I have a mate who has a moth. They are probably in vintage category rather than commercial / military operational though. Possible that they still train with them somewhere. Definitely in the cool aircraft list.
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@Snowy said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@jegga said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@Snowy said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@jegga No, I hadn't. A good read.
Strangely enough a Cessna did this to me "I am going to set it afire" not the other way around.
Liked this:
“I flew F-16's for the better part of a decade. The jet was designed in the late 60's and has aged better than almost any aircraft in the world. The one aircraft that beats it is the Cessna 172,” Major Justin “Hasard” Lee, a U.S. Air Force F-35 Joint Strike Fighter pilot"
An argument could be made for the B52 and the Dakota (C47) in terms of longevity but he has a point.
Harvard was pre war but still in use too? Are there many tiger moths left?
Plenty of both of those around - I have a mate who has a moth. They are probably in vintage category rather than commercial / military operational though. Possible that they still train with them somewhere. Definitely in the cool aircraft list.
I used to work with a guy who absolutely loved the tiger moth . He was in the territorial Air Force too , the ex ww2 pilots were pretty much the only ones that got to fly the mustangs but he got to fly the flying boat that is up in MOTAT or it twin . Said for an aircraft it’s size it was incredibly manoeuvrable
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@Snowy said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@jegga said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
the flying boat that is up in MOTAT
Not sure what they have? Sunderland or Solent I would think.
Sunderland , the milspec Solent . I think they were based at Shelley bay
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@Snowy have you never touched a snake - definitely not slimy. Agree they're fuckers though
@jegga The Sunderlands were based at Hobsonville. It's why one of the new precincts there is names after them. My uncle was a Squadron Leader there. Also at Lautoka where we also has some Sunderlands based to cover the central Pacific. They were replaced in the mid 60's by the Orions which were replaced by...…..
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@dogmeat said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@Snowy have you never touched a snake - definitely not slimy. Agree they're fuckers though
@jegga The Sunderlands were based at Hobsonville. It's why one of the new precincts there is names after them. My uncle was a Squadron Leader there. Also at Lautoka where we also has some Sunderlands based to cover the central Pacific. They were replaced in the mid 60's by the Orions which were replaced by...…..
That’s cool about your uncle .
They had a base in Wellington too , not as well used as the one in Hobsonville though
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@Machpants My old man first flew to NZ on a Solent from Sydney. Swore it was the best flight he ever did in his life. Took 8 hours. Apart from take off and landing he spent the entire time propped up in the lounge bar which he said was a full on cocktail bar.
He was doubly impressed as his only previous flying experience had been in troop transports that took 4 full days to get from Tokyo to Sydney and … didn't have a bar.
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@dogmeat said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:
@Machpants My old man first flew to NZ on a Solent from Sydney. Swore it was the best flight he ever did in his life. Took 8 hours. Apart from take off and landing he spent the entire time propped up in the lounge bar which he said was a full on cocktail bar.
He was doubly impressed as his only previous flying experience had been in troop transports that took 4 full days to get from Tokyo to Sydney and … didn't have a bar.
They were cool looking beasts
Hard to believe the same company produced this ugly pile of shit
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2002 Überlingen mid-air collision - Wikipedia
Why the Cessna Is Such a Badass Plane
