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    @Machpants said in Planes:

    Haha nothing so cool as a Corsair. He was a TAG (Telegraphist Air Gunner) in a a Fairey Fulmar. Probably lucky he only sighted ME109s! The 3 plans shot down were all transports, Italian, in the med.

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    Fairey Fulmar - Wikipedia

    Fairey Fulmar - Wikipedia
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Fairey_Fulmar_Mk_I_(M4062).jpg

    Still as shit as the Fulmar was, his log book entries are much cooler than mine which have shot at by, rather than shot down

    Location of original logbook 😜

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    At least it wasn’t a Blackburn roc , they were dogshit.

    I never understood the British theory that a carrier fighter needed a navigator . The yanks and Japanese never did and when they did try to marinise the spitfire it didn’t have the range and it’s landing gear was borderline on their steel aircraft carrier decks .

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    @Machpants said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:

    Probably lucky he only sighted ME109s

    Yep, even luckier they didn't sight him.

    190 hours doesn't even get you a commercial licence these days. Amazing what they did with so little experience. I've done around 20,000 and still know fck all. I too am only "shot at " rather than "shot down" someone else.

    @jegga Swordfish were on the Ark Royal but I don't know what else.

    Also, was there a second Ark Royal? The guy who surveyed my boat was an engineer on it but he couldn't have been that old...

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    I'm sure this will get moved. But yes another Ark Royal, with Phantoms and Buccaneers, which was scrapped pre Falklands, then another from my era with harriers. Also there were two before as well (Elizabethan and the WW 1 seaplane carrier)

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    @Snowy said in Planes:

    @Machpants said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet:

    Probably lucky he only sighted ME109s

    Yep, even luckier they didn't sight him.

    190 hours doesn't even get you a commercial licence these days. Amazing what they did with so little experience. I've done around 20,000 and still know fck all. I too am only "shot at " rather than "shot down" someone else.

    @jegga Swordfish were on the Ark Royal but I don't know what else.

    Also, was there a second Ark Royal? The guy who surveyed my boat was an engineer on it but he couldn't have been that old...

    According to Wikipedia they had fulmars , rocs and the swordfish successor the albacore as well as the string bag .

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    As @Duluth has kindly given us a separate thread and people seem interested in Planes:

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    Then there is this:

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12277937

    There have been some serious failings at Boeing over the MCAS system and it seems that transparency was another one.

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    These ugly things were useless in the pacific, NZ air ace Geoff Fisken said when he was trying to defend Hong Kong from bombers the bomber would simply fly a few thousand feet higher than the buffalos service ceiling and get away without being damaged.

    They gave them to the Finns to use against the russians and they did really well. To be fair the Finns were desperate for any aircraft they could get their hands on but they stripped out some armour to make them lighter and the majority of their scraps were at low altitude too.

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    @jegga Other than weight - temperature and humidity. Way less dense air in the tropics and look at the wings on the bloody thing. A bomber would generally have much better altitude performance due to aspect ratio compared to a Buffalo esp in low density air.

    These guys put up some good clips every now and again that you might like:

    Historical Aviation Film Unit

    Historical Aviation Film Unit

    This is the free-to-view video channel for the Historical Aviation Film Unit (HAFU). Here you'll find lots of short clips of aircraft, cars, military vehicles, steam and other machinery...

    This is pretty cool for a balsa wood aeroplane:

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    @Snowy buffaloes overheated too, not such an issue in Finland I guess.

    This guy has a decent channel, unfortunately youtube purged a bunch of his videos because they featured swastikas on the planes. Still he knows his shit and doesn't take himself too seriously.

    Military Aviation History

    Military Aviation History

    Christoph Bergs: Does airpower, likes archives, prefers cockpits over lounge chairs...

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    @jegga He's German? Weird watching him go on about a Halifax.

    @jegga said in Planes:

    youtube purged a bunch of his videos because they featured swastikas on the planes.

    Military Aviation History

    Military Aviation History

    Christoph Bergs: Does airpower, likes archives, prefers cockpits over lounge chairs...

    FFS. It's a part of history he isn't promoting it. That is how they were painted.

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    @Snowy said in Planes:

    @jegga He's German? Weird watching him go on about a Halifax.

    @jegga said in Planes:

    youtube purged a bunch of his videos because they featured swastikas on the planes.

    Military Aviation History

    Military Aviation History

    Christoph Bergs: Does airpower, likes archives, prefers cockpits over lounge chairs...

    FFS. It's a part of history he isn't promoting it. That is how they were painted.

    Yeah they did it to a lot of history channels in the last purge . I think he’s German and already seemed a bit sensitive about it .

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    @jegga said in Planes:

    a bit sensitive about it .

    Understandable.

    "Speedbird" are British Airways (wank, I know).

    Reminds me of this:
    Ground controller: "Speedbird, do you not know where you are going?"
    Speedbird 206: "Stand by, Ground, I'm looking up our gate location now."
    Ground (with quite arrogant impatience): "Speedbird 206, have you not been to Frankfurt before?"
    Speedbird 206 (coolly): "Yes, twice in 1944, but it was dark, -- And I didn't land."

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    @Snowy said in Planes:

    @jegga said in Planes:

    a bit sensitive about it .

    Understandable.

    "Speedbird" are British Airways (wank, I know).

    Reminds me of this:
    Ground controller: "Speedbird, do you not know where you are going?"
    Speedbird 206: "Stand by, Ground, I'm looking up our gate location now."
    Ground (with quite arrogant impatience): "Speedbird 206, have you not been to Frankfurt before?"
    Speedbird 206 (coolly): "Yes, twice in 1944, but it was dark, -- And I didn't land."

    Nice , reminds me of this

    “When Motorhead toured the Bomber album the stage set featured a Lancaster bomber, which hung over the stage.

    When they played Dresden in Germany, Lemmy strides out onto the stage, points to the Lancaster and says :

    "Good evening Dresden. I bet you haven't seen one of these for a while."

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    Not quite the Japaneses in the Jungles, but still!

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    @Machpants said in Planes:

    Not quite the Japaneses in the Jungles, but still!

    The one that was found just before Hiroo Onoda never got a pension like Onada did because he was Taiwanese .

    Teruo Nakamura - Wikipedia

    I never knew there were so many holdouts . Nutters

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    Nov 1, 2019  /  Military Aviation

    Just Casually Towing a Multi-Million Dollar Russian Attack Jet

    Just Casually Towing a Multi-Million Dollar Russian Attack Jet

    It doesn't even need a transport trailer.

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    @jegga WTF? How does this work?

    "crew of two and unusual for combat jets, the crew members sit side by side in the cockpit."
    How skinny are these guys? More like sit on each others lap but probably bigger than it looks.

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    Anyway, nice that they are naming their aeroplanes after rugby positions.

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    @Snowy said in Planes:

    @jegga WTF? How does this work?

    "crew of two and unusual for combat jets, the crew members sit side by side in the cockpit."
    How skinny are these guys? More like sit on each others lap but probably bigger than it looks.

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    Anyway, nice that they are naming their aeroplanes after rugby positions.

    In other photos it looks pretty big so being anorexic probably isn’t a requirement to crew it .

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    @Snowy they have form. The SU-27 was nicknamed the Flanker

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    @canefan said in Planes:

    @Snowy they have form. The SU-27 was nicknamed the Flanker

    NATO calls them that , dunno what the Russians call it

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